Chris Wilder's position as Sheffield United boss

[BanderSerge]

What's the point you're proving?

Short memories? Lack of context? Were you not attending games in 2016? Can you not remember the starting 11 at Bolton? If we do go down, for the next 3 seasons we have £100m. We didn’t even have enough for a box of shredded wheat before CWAK came! To all the bedwetters whining on here every 2 minutes, praise the lord you never had to go through the Haslam/Peters scandal, if you think this season is a nightmare.

 

[BanderSerge]

I would imagine that CW wants the final say on who signs for the club.

I suppose the Prince might want a Director Of Football to decide on signings and then give them to the manager to coach and use as he thinks fit.

I can understand the point of view which says CW went a bit too fast in recruiting young players for the future, instead of buying some experienced ones to help consolidate our Premier League status.

My guess is that the Prince recognises that and wishes to put a filter on recruitment to protect his investment.

For the 55th time! We had no choice but to sign young players because of our wage structure. Even the likes of fu#king Burnley take the piss out of us on that score.

 

[Revolution]

For the 55th time! We had no choice but to sign young players because of our wage structure. Even the likes of fu#king Burnley take the piss out of us on that score.

This is false. There is no grading for salaries dependant on age.

 

[Big Hitter]

Short memories? Lack of context? Were you not attending games in 2016? Can you not remember the starting 11 at Bolton? If we do go down, for the next 3 seasons we have £100m. We didn’t even have enough for a box of shredded wheat before CWAK came! To all the bedwetters whining on here every 2 minutes, praise the lord you never had to go through the Haslam/Peters scandal, if you think this season is a nightmare.

Went thru Haslam Peters Robson Warnock Blackwell........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[BanderSerge]

This is false. There is no grading for salaries dependant on age.

As if CWAK would Chuck £100,000 a week on last pay day - past it mercenaries? Watkins was almost done before Villa gazumped us with wages. The fact that we couldn’t compete with a team who should have gone down last season, despite us finishing 9th, tells any sensible person exactly what’s going on at the lane, with regards wages. Also Wilson to fuc#ing turgid Newcastle? Again, we finish 9th, they just stop up, but he signs for Newcastle!

 

[jt64]

Wasn't Berge signed via this sort of route? A player most agree is good but doesn't fit the system.

He was asked to do something a bit different to what he had done previously. He took time to adapt. He was doing. Then he got injured.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

For the 55th time! We had no choice but to sign young players because of our wage structure. Even the likes of fu#king Burnley take the piss out of us on that score.

There are always choices. For instance, we could have signed someone such as Conor Hourihane for much less than we paid for Brewster, and had enough to pay his wages. Yes, I know one`s a midfielder and the other a forward; I was just giving an example. Yes, there is a question of the club`s wage structure, but that can be adapted if the owner desires.

 

[Snowflake]

Short memories? Lack of context? Were you not attending games in 2016? Can you not remember the starting 11 at Bolton? If we do go down, for the next 3 seasons we have £100m. We didn’t even have enough for a box of shredded wheat before CWAK came! To all the bedwetters whining on here every 2 minutes, praise the lord you never had to go through the Haslam/Peters scandal, if you think this season is a nightmare.

I agree with all of that except I suspect that the squeeze on tv money does not mean we will have £100k and may have little to spare. However we should be so much stronger financially than many years in the last six decades

 

[PageHallBlade]

Always some smart arse to read too much into a question.
call me Old and or Oldfashioned , but I have never really taken onboard who these DoF are and what they actually do. Obviously not high profile and in your face like manager or coaches are, but who they are and what they do has never been on my radar. Now I see some on here are calling for us to have one , even if it means losing one of our most successful managers. As I said, I am curious. Every days a school day.
so can you name them? Or do you need to google it first?

your missing my point i dont need to know who they are they are the background staff their role is to work with the manager not to eclipse or overshadow so who they are is irrelavent same as i dont care who deals with the sponsorship deals etc it means nothing to me their role is to bring something to the club to help it succeed

 

[Johnstreetstand]

your missing my point i dont need to know who they are they are the background staff their role is to work with the manager not to eclipse or overshadow so who they are is irrelavent same as i dont care who deals with the sponsorship deals etc it means nothing to me their role is to bring something to the club to help it succeed

Ok, get it now.
they can be as invisible as vans winkel when he’s swimming in the North Sea as long as they get success. I just had an image of some self important twat like Sven moron Ericsson overshadowing the hard working manager/ coach.

 

[Pottedmeattoes]

What about swapping Wilder and Knills rolls for remaining games ,be interesting.

 

[Nagima]

While being supportive of his over all tenure, there are a number of doubts about his management.
Tactically stubborn and not seeing what is obvious. The system is not working.
Blind to certain players. McBurnie is not good enough. Lundstram is not good enough. Norwood doesn't have legs.
Recruitment. Mousset, McBurnie, Brewster, both Robinsons. Freeman. Burke. Morrison. Rodwell.

 

[MalmoBlade]

If we're playing the "we can't pay the wages" card we must accept that we don't belong in the Division. It really is that simple. We can't compete with Burnley. OK.

So yes on that basis I'll get behind CW for a hopeful mid-table or better Championship campaign because believe me there are many players in the Championship earning more than John Fleck, for example, and he's a first team stalwart so if wages establishes your quality in a League, don't hold your breath for the coming season.

 

[The Vicar]

I am in the stay camp, but inching towards the go camp with every limp insipid performance.

But whilst the back 3 are out it would be harsh to say he has failed this season.

 

[BanderSerge]

I agree with all of that except I suspect that the squeeze on tv money does not mean we will have £100k and may have little to spare. However we should be so much stronger financially than many years in the last six decades

Under CWAK we have been prudent which is why the bollocks has begun bet the Prince and CW. All players on 50% wage cut. I reckon we sell Berge or Baldock and we’re laughing.

 

[BanderSerge]

There are always choices. For instance, we could have signed someone such as Conor Hourihane for much less than we paid for Brewster, and had enough to pay his wages. Yes, I know one`s a midfielder and the other a forward; I was just giving an example. Yes, there is a question of the club`s wage structure, but that can be adapted if the owner desires.

Why would we blow millions on a slow arsed 30 year old looking for one last pay day, who can’t even get in the Villa side? Makes no sense at all.

 

[Champagneblade]

IMHO the biggest mistake we made was spending the whole budget on up and coming players unproven in the premier league. Unfortunately not one of McBurnie, Berge, Brewster, Ramsdale or Moose has proved worth it and that's nearly 100m of fees.

Now whether that's all down to the boards policy regarding resale value or CW not wanting to break the wage structure and upset the players that brought us up or not I don't know. But it seems there was an assumption somewhere that we were an established side after finishing 9th and we could afford to take this approach.

Its clearly backfired spectacularly and CW is blaming the board for not backing him and the board are sat there thinking we spent big. We gave you the money for Berge who wasnt in last years budget then we gave you the money for Brewster who wasnt in this years budget, you say you need a back up for JOC but why did you sign Robinson and so on.

As it is CWs standing in the game is still very high and rightly so. I suspect hes very worried that without the backing in the summer we will be mid table next season and his chance of a top job will have diminished massively whereas if he walks this summer hes still an attractive proposition.

Let's hope this is sorted out and we can go again with CW at the helm for a promotion push.

I think finishing 9th was part of the problem.

We didn't make the signings a team in 9th could have attracted if we had a more ambitious scouring network. Have got Berge, I recall being linked with a midfielder at Hoffenheim and the African lad from Olympiacos. We ought to have been in for one of these too, striking while the iron was hot.

If they want going to happen, then we have been better finishing 16th.

At least then the urgency to improve the immediate XI would have been apparent.

I get the guy has occasional injuries, but maybe something less sexy like getting Deeney on loan for a year from Watford with a view to keeping him in the Prem and Watford taking him back in a year when ideally for them they'd be promoted back. At least he would have been an experienced and obvious starter. Not the flight of fancy Brewster is.

Etheridge did well at Cardiff in the Prem, went for 2m to Brum. You probably could have got those two deals done for 10m including wages for the year.

It would have left an additional 30m in the kitty to spend further on wages and a midfielder who could further improve the team.

If you were genuinely keeping Stevens and Osborn, I don't see the urgency to get Lowe. Particularly when he isn't getting a run right now despite Enda being poor. In the modern world we live in, maybe he and Bogle are a couple and you don't get one without the other?!

 

[S64 Blade]

It’s not just a question of who we have signed and the fees involved, it’s where we didn’t sign players too.

Not bringing a LCB and midfield in last summer, when it was known about JOC’s injury and Lundstram’s contract/Freeman going out on loan, was arguably the biggest error of judgment by Wilder.

These two areas have continually bitten us on the arse all season, yet should have been top priority after signing a keeper.

 

[unitedbhoy]

If Lundstram starts next game then serious questions need to be asked of Wilders managerial capabilities right now

 

[Weasel]

The total lack of bringing in a new player or two for the middle of the park was fucking ridiculous and bordering on negligence by CW and the rest.

It was absolutely clear to some of us where we needed some extra quality and competition. For some reason it never happened and I was hoping we would wing it until January and somehow scrape better results than we actually did, before the cavalry arrived in the January transfer window. Unfortunately we had been utter shit until then, had the worst start in PL history, and were marooned at the bottom with the damage being done.

The non signing of a big fuck off left centre back was also baffling as the writing was on the wall there with headers lost and goals conceded from that position after the Wolves game.

We've had poor luck this season but some of the decisions taken by the management has had me scratching my head in puzzlement.

10 to go, then go away, rethink things and come back again hopefully having learnt a valuable lesson.

I also can't wait to see the list of players shown the door this summer. It will feel like the equivalent of sitting your arse down on the pot when you've been desperate to go for most of the day.

 

[Blade58]

Guff from Nixon this morning, or any truth?

 

[Tops]

Guff from Nixon this morning, or any truth?

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I said to a few mates this week after seeing another wilder interview, Wilder has said a few things recently aimed at the board, The board is supposedly wanting a DOF something wilder doesn't, Wilder won't walk, Prince can't afford to pay him off fully, only outcome IF they do depart is Mutual consent.

After seeing Interviews last night on different media, Wilder seems to want to stay, get rid of some bad attitudes/ dead wood and rebuild.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

Why would we blow millions on a slow arsed 30 year old looking for one last pay day, who can’t even get in the Villa side? Makes no sense at all.

I didn`t say we would or should. I was merely giving an example of the type of choice which could happen.

 

[BanderSerge]

I didn`t say we would or should. I was merely giving an example of the type of choice which could happen.

That’s an example? 30 Years old. It’s a toss up who wins an 100m race between him and Norwood. Who’s place would he take? We’re trying to get the age down, and mobility up, yet you come up with him!

 

[BanderSerge]

What about swapping Wilder and Knills rolls for remaining games ,be interesting.

Do one

 

[BanderSerge]

I think finishing 9th was part of the problem.

We didn't make the signings a team in 9th could have attracted if we had a more ambitious scouring network. Have got Berge, I recall being linked with a midfielder at Hoffenheim and the African lad from Olympiacos. We ought to have been in for one of these too, striking while the iron was hot.

If they want going to happen, then we have been better finishing 16th.

At least then the urgency to improve the immediate XI would have been apparent.

I get the guy has occasional injuries, but maybe something less sexy like getting Deeney on loan for a year from Watford with a view to keeping him in the Prem and Watford taking him back in a year when ideally for them they'd be promoted back. At least he would have been an experienced and obvious starter. Not the flight of fancy Brewster is.

Etheridge did well at Cardiff in the Prem, went for 2m to Brum. You probably could have got those two deals done for 10m including wages for the year.

It would have left an additional 30m in the kitty to spend further on wages and a midfielder who could further improve the team.

If you were genuinely keeping Stevens and Osborn, I don't see the urgency to get Lowe. Particularly when he isn't getting a run right now despite Enda being poor. In the modern world we live in, maybe he and Bogle are a couple and you don't get one without the other?!

Etheridge and Deeney? One can’t run for toffee, mid 30’s, and he’s on about £60,000 a week. The other keeps chucking the ball into his own f#cking net!

 

[Robboblade1889]

Guff from Nixon this morning, or any truth?

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If there is any truth in this and it becomes a reality the owners will start a shit storm of epic proportions. Imagine doing this and we have an awful start to next season. There won’t be any grace whatsoever from the 90% of Blades who want the manager to remain in charge.
We won’t sit by like they have across the city while the owner completely fucks us up. He needs to get sat round the table ASAP sort out any differences and plan for next season.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

That’s an example? 30 Years old. It’s a toss up who wins an 100m race between him and Norwood. Who’s place would he take? We’re trying to get the age down, and mobility up, yet you come up with him!

The example was only illustrative of a general point. He was the first example of an experienced older player who might be available that came to mind.
I repeat : I was not suggesting that we should have signed that particular player ! I was only saying that it was possible to sign older players with experience, who might have been a better option to consolidate Premier status than young players with potential.

I`ll say again ; I was not suggesting that we should have considered Conor Hourihane !

 

[bartman]

If there is any truth in this and it becomes a reality the owners will start a shit storm of epic proportions. Imagine doing this and we have an awful start to next season. There won’t be any grace whatsoever from the 90% of Blades who want the manager to remain in charge.
We won’t sit by like they have across the city while the owner completely fucks us up. He needs to get sat round the table ASAP sort out any differences and plan for next season.

What happens if he doesnt leave and we have a poor start to next season ? How long do they give him ?

Some will blame the board for not getting rid earlier. Some fans will probably back Wilder even if we where bottom half of the Championship next season.

 

[BanderSerge]

The example was only illustrative of a general point. He was the first example of an experienced older player who might be available that came to mind.
I repeat : I was not suggesting that we should have signed that particular player ! I was only saying that it was possible to sign older players with experience, who might have been a better option to consolidate Premier status than young players with potential.

I`ll say again ; I was not suggesting that we should have considered Conor Hourihane !

WTF for? An illustrative! We’d be better off signing my grandad and he’s been dead 15 years!