CONFIRMED Chris Wilder - new blades boss!

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Linz said:
Seven million threads merged.

Will be moved back to General Blades Chat if/when [Confirmed]
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Darren said:
That was in the second division. We are now in the third division. Given the club's support and resources any season spent in the third division is a failure. Not even getting in the play offs is completely unacceptable.
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Our starting point is as a team established in this division, just like last time. We have a squad full of players that are average for the league we are in, just like last time and we keep selling our best players and not allowing managers to adequately replace them. The fact we are a division lower than when Warnock took over is irrelevant when we refuse to use our perceived resources to spend big in comparison to our divisional rivals.

Adkins had a huge squad of shit to deal with and was limited in the changes he was allowed to make. On paper he might have had a big wage bill, but most of this was taken up by players already at the club.
 
BladeFisher said:
Adkins' Blades win percentage is a stonking 41.5%, which puts him behind Wilder. :):)

Adkins' record here is the 9th best, about equal with Kendall.
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Wilder's win percentage for the Blades is 0% I was using percentages as a manager over all games they had managed.

Any road up, welcome Chris Wilder! Do it for the Blades! :)
 
Latters said:
Our starting point is as a team established in this division, just like last time. We have a squad full of players that are average for the league we are in, just like last time and we keep selling our best players and not allowing managers to adequately replace them. The fact we are a division lower than when Warnock took over is irrelevant when we refuse to use our perceived resources to spend big in comparison to our divisional rivals.

Adkins had a huge squad of shit to deal with and was limited in the changes he was allowed to make. On paper he might have had a big wage bill, but most of this was taken up by players already at the club.
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Clough got that "squad of shit" to the play offs and a cup semi final. Adkins brought in a 20 goal a season striker and a number of other players (Edgar, Hammond, Wolford, Sammon) with second tier experience. They would not have been cheap. We finished 11th. On any scale, he failed massively.

I would personally have given him the start of next season to see if he could sort it out, but there us no way he can feel hard done by. He falls into the Robson/Adams/Weir category of "can't argue with that" sackings.
 
ashsufc1889 said:
Not heard anything about that...They've kept it rather quiet! I didn't realise they had the money for a new stadium......
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Still not sure why this was such news:

An unsuccessful (never won the league) moderate sized club, one of many teams in the Capital, based in a Shitty part of London, housed at an embarrassingly designed sand castle like stadium is moving out.

Meanwhile, somewhere oop North, I.e. Not the Capital, is the anniversary of the Bradford fire disaster, which claimed 50 odd people's lives happened in the same week.

I know which one I'd see as the more newsworthy item.

Also Upton Park or Boleyn Ground? Who cares!!!
 
Northampton confirm official approach - Heart FM saying that Wilder will be named tomorrow.
 
Champagneblade said:
Still not sure why this was such news:

An unsuccessful (never won the league) moderate sized club, one of many teams in the Capital, based in a Shitty part of London, housed at an embarrassingly designed sand castle like stadium is moving out.

Meanwhile, somewhere oop North, I.e. Not the Capital, is the anniversary of the Bradford fire disaster, which claimed 50 odd people's lives happened in the same week.

I know which one I'd see as the more newsworthy item.

Also Upton Park or Boleyn Ground? Who cares!!!
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Fuck West Ham.
 
Wilder is in a good position because now he has to simply show "progress".....

If he gets us into the playoffs next season and misses out on promotion he still has a strong argument for having moved the team in an upward direction following decline.

A top six finish shouldn't be difficult for anyone managing our team in League One. He has a few decent players to build around and room in the squad to make additions this summer. I think it's good timing for anyone coming in.
 
Jonboy60 said:
Fuck West Ham.
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Grow up, we don't have anything to hold against West Ham now you make us sound pathetic.

I have family who support many clubs around the country and we have become a laughing stock due to the West Ham drama, please stop being a fucking child and stop moaning about this/ them.

Anyway moving swiftly on...
 

Notts Blade 123 said:
Grow up, we don't have anything to hold against West Ham now you make us sound pathetic.

I have family who support many clubs around the country and we have become a laughing stock due to the West Ham drama, please stop being a fucking child and stop moaning about this/ them.

Anyway moving swiftly on...
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I'd agree with you if it wasn't for that cup game at their place. They don't seem very keen to move on from the Tevez saga. Plus throwing coins and trying to rush the police cordon after we spoiled their chance at "revenge" didn't exactly endear them to me.

Fuck 'em.
 
Notts Blade 123 said:
Grow up, we don't have anything to hold against West Ham now you make us sound pathetic.

I have family who support many clubs around the country and we have become a laughing stock due to the West Ham drama, please stop being a fucking child and stop moaning about this/ them.

Anyway moving swiftly on...
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I take it you live in Notts, I live in West Ham country. Fuck ,West Ham.
 
If it is wilder. The politics at Utd will be childs play compared to Northampton last 8 months
  • A winding-up petition was sought by HM Revenue & Customs, which was owed £166,000 by the club.
  • Northampton Town owed Northampton Borough Council more than £10m
  • Then theirs the financial problems back in October where players & staff werent paid
  • Due to other financial problems meant the clubs bank account was frozen
  • Despite all that he still took them up 13 Pts Clear as champions with a pt short of a century
 
sheff_blade90 said:
If it is wilder. The politics at Utd will be childs play compared to Northampton last 8 months
  • A winding-up petition was sought by HM Revenue & Customs, which was owed £166,000 by the club.
  • Northampton Town owed Northampton Borough Council more than £10m
  • Then theirs the financial problems back in October where players & staff werent paid
  • Due to other financial problems meant the clubs bank account was frozen
  • Despite all that he still took them up 13 Pts Clear as champions with a pt short of a century
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....experience would suggest otherwise ...
 
sheff_blade90 said:
If it is wilder. The politics at Utd will be childs play compared to Northampton last 8 months
  • A winding-up petition was sought by HM Revenue & Customs, which was owed £166,000 by the club.
  • Northampton Town owed Northampton Borough Council more than £10m
  • Then theirs the financial problems back in October where players & staff werent paid
  • Due to other financial problems meant the clubs bank account was frozen
  • Despite all that he still took them up 13 Pts Clear as champions with a pt short of a century
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....experience would suggest otherwise ...
 
Patrick Suffaux said:
Wilder is in a good position because now he has to simply show "progress".....

If he gets us into the playoffs next season and misses out on promotion he still has a strong argument for having moved the team in an upward direction following decline.

A top six finish shouldn't be difficult for anyone managing our team in League One. He has a few decent players to build around and room in the squad to make additions this summer. I think it's good timing for anyone coming in.
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Agree. Whereas under Adkins we made no progress at all, in fact went backwards at a frightening rate that showed no sign of slowing. I understand the arguments about stability, giving people time, etc, but Adkins in his way was as much a disaster as Weir, and it felt much worse because we had such high expectations. Apart from signing Sharp, it's hard to think of one positive thing he achieved, and the football and results served up were so poor that he simply had to go. I simply can't believe that Wilder won't do much better, and yes I do think he should be given two years not one although with luck he may not need it – if he can get the basics right, which Adkins failed to get close to doing.
 
Newbury Blade said:
Agree. Whereas under Adkins we made no progress at all, in fact went backwards at a frightening rate that showed no sign of slowing. I understand the arguments about stability, giving people time, etc, but Adkins in his way was as much a disaster as Weir, and it felt much worse because we had such high expectations. Apart from signing Sharp, it's hard to think of one positive thing he achieved, and the football and results served up were so poor that he simply had to go. I simply can't believe that Wilder won't do much better, and yes I do think he should be given two years not one although with luck he may not need it – if he can get the basics right, which Adkins failed to get close to doing.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head with the whole thing. I like most other people long for continuity and stability but you have to be able to point to positives/improvements/signs of progress and there's nothing during Adkins' time as manager that you can conclusively identify as falling under any of those descriptions.

This comes from someone who likes him as a person, likes the professionalism and positivity of his interviews but can't (for the want of trying) find anything positive to say about his results.

I really do wish Nigel all the very best and hope he's successful elsewhere in the future but he's just not the right fit for us at the present moment and I don't see it improving under him quickly enough.
 
sheff_blade90 said:
I hope that Chris Wilder doesn't give everyone a clean slate. & does something to find out which ones to keep. Whether that's watching games, asking Keith Edwards or whatever coaching staff is left
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Well he knows all about Dominic Calvert-Lewin to start with. As for the rest, football managers watch a lot of games, and you'd think he would have a fair idea of what's been going on at Bramall Lane this season – it's not as if he's a foreign manager who doesn't know where Sheffield 2 is. The detailed knowledge some people on this forum have about League 1 and 2 players is incredible, to me, and surely Wilder will be at least as well informed. He will have taken enough interest, I'd guess, to know which ones are donkeys and which ones might be worth hanging on to. He will also know, for example, that his goalkeeper and at least one if not two of his midfielders at Northampton are better than what we have here.
 

Newbury Blade said:
Agree. Whereas under Adkins we made no progress at all, in fact went backwards at a frightening rate that showed no sign of slowing. I understand the arguments about stability, giving people time, etc, but Adkins in his way was as much a disaster as Weir, and it felt much worse because we had such high expectations. Apart from signing Sharp, it's hard to think of one positive thing he achieved, and the football and results served up were so poor that he simply had to go. I simply can't believe that Wilder won't do much better, and yes I do think he should be given two years not one although with luck he may not need it – if he can get the basics right, which Adkins failed to get close to doing.
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Spot on my friend...

Going forward with the wrong man takes you backwards. A brave decision, and a good one...imho....please lift the curse our tufty..
 
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