CONFIRMED Chris Wilder 3.0 - Returns for the third spell.

[Cheeky Blade]

Dyche isn't coming here. He'd be mad to come here after his career.

We missed the boat with Challinor before he signed a new contract at Stockport. But he's not a Blade so the kop wouldn't be happy with him either.

In hindsight now of course but I reckon fans would have been happy with Challinor…though I doubt he was ever on the owners radar.

 

[Northyorksblade]

It's like we're starting the season with a 15 point deduction imposed by the owners

And less games to recover. Last year but 7.5 times worse.

 

[Davalon]

Prince Abdullah has seemingly confirmed Wilder is back

 

[Ricardo Mantelban]

I think wilder is good in a crisis like the relegation and -2 last season. I think the current predicament will play to his strengths of galvanising the team. It’s what happens after that.

 

[coolasanidiot]

Prince Abdullah has seemingly confirmed Wilder is back

Whatever is said about the Prince, one thing is certain he absolutely is Football Mad- I bet he's pleased as punch Chris is back - like most of us, what a morning - perfect!

 

[Sheffsteel]

It feels like they just couldn't be arsed to approach Dyche

We will have already sounded out potential candidates.
When we asked about what Dyche thought….he just laughed….so we took that as a no.

Dyche is holding out for a job in the Premier league, the West Ham job will soon be available and the Burnley and Leeds jobs will likely be available at Christmas.

He’d want huge wages to consider dropping in the Championship.
Next season we don’t have any parachute money, so we need to stay within budget and get rid of high earners not bring in high earners.

Agree Wilder is a bit of a sticking plaster but he gaurantees a top half finish this season with a possibility of play-offs.
Instead of the owners planning for the long term….they automatically assumed this season would be fine….so now we need Wilder to steady the ship.

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

Here we go get the comfort blanket back out the cupboard

Let’s grind it out get results fall short before or after promotion sack him bring someone in then sack them then get the comfort blanket back out rinse and repeat.

Not saying we should have given Selles time because he was a bad appointment since day one and everyone knew it but come on we cannot keep dialling 0114 whenever things don’t work out in the big bad world.

But that doesn't have to be the plan.
Reap the benefits of short term improvement that this appointment would certainly bring, exploit his longer term strengths in knowing football and the club inside out by moving him into a different role in the coming years, and build an infrastructure for sustainable success that doesn't depend entirely on him. That might be the plan, and I think it offers us our best chance of success.

 

[Frank the tank]

First questions for the owners at the press conference…

Why was Wilder sacked?
What has now changed?
Why do you think you can now work together?

If there even is a press conference the owners won't be there .

 

[Kev Gee]

First questions for the owners at the press conference…

Why was Wilder sacked?
What has now changed?
Why do you think you can now work together?

I don't want CW back but if the owners decide that they want to go back (again) then fair enough.

What's more intriguing is the complete lack of planning.

Though I suppose no one could have anticipated the complete shit show that was to follow pre season.

Let's make sure we get in a competent DOF alongside as well to oversee all of this.

 

[utd4ever]

Incredible. Has another club had the same manager 3 times.

 

[Shawy24]

All it will indicate is desperation on the part of the board and giving in to the pathetic hero worship of a needy fan base.

Do you seriously believe that of, say 30,000 supporters, there are 15,000 who are besotted with Wilder? I’d guess there’s a few hundred vocal idiots for whom he can do no wrong and on the other hand a few hundred, possibly like you who seem to hate him.

The majority will recognise that the man has faults in both personality and football terms that possibly warranted a change this season. However, unless you are wedded to the notion that Selles “just needed time” despite all the evidence in front of your eyes, he simply wasn’t up to it. As for your comment some posts ago about World and European coaching, I hope you weren’t crediting Selles with that. Fitness coach, translator, data analyst and cone putter outer in Greece, Russia, Azerbaijan and Norway plus coaching in regional leagues in Spain don’t make a Championship Manager.

We don’t have the time to look around for the perfect coach with European pedigree you seem to want. This team is rudderless. It has no identity. No belief. It needs sorting now, not in three weeks when we’re still rooted to the bottom with zero points as the board negotiate terms and the new manager then has to get to grips with a squad he’s never met.

Unfortunately because of the Sellés debacle (or fortunately because of the urgency) there is a ready made solution available. I can’t see any other manager of note wanting to risk their reputation here.

Desperation? Probably. But blame the board for that situation. Not Wilder.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I’m completely lost for words if Wilder comes back, the owners clearly haven’t got a clue.

Who sacks a manager then brings him back within a few months? Why even sack him in the first place?

Absolutely crazy situation! You think you’ve seen everything in football then United do this.

I think this would be my take, the context and bigger picture of bringing him back...

 

[coolasanidiot]

Incredible. Has another club had the same manager 3 times.

Peterborough - Fergies Lad.

 

[pedro]

Why would you want a DoF?

 

[JD88]

Soumare, Matos, McGuiness, Tanganga offer that.

McGuiness won’t be in the team much longer. Quicker Ben Mee is at centre half with Tanganga the better.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Here we go get the comfort blanket back out the cupboard

Let’s grind it out get results fall short before or after promotion sack him bring someone in then sack them then get the comfort blanket back out rinse and repeat.

Not saying we should have given Selles time because he was a bad appointment since day one and everyone knew it but come on we cannot keep dialling 0114 whenever things don’t work out in the big bad world.

It's less about blind loyalty to a local bloke and more about realising that we tried to modernise the club too quickly, in one summer. You can't ask a head coach to transform the culture of an entire club that has been otherwise configured to be controlled by an old-school style football club manager. You need to gradually introduce the systems and processes and personnel off the field, to then support a head coach to thrive.

Was moving away from Wilder and will moving away from a football club manager be the right thing to do? Of course, in terms of modernising our club.

Do we want to do a rushed, incompetent, fuckwittery version of it, that risks the future of the club? Absolutely not.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Excellent news. The board dropped a major clanger with sacking CW and appointing RB, but at least they have the balls to admit this by resigning CW.

We will see an immediate improvement on performance and results and I am certain of getting our first 3 points against Charlton - could anyone have said that if Selles was still in charge?

Can remember not so long back when the pigs were jizzing over us not having Hamer (when he went to watch F1) and Wilder for the Derby

The fans and players will be buzzing next Saturday and we most likely go back to a 4-2-3-1

Guessing at:

Cooper

Seriki -- Tanganga -- Mee -- Burrows

Peck -- Soumaire

O'Hare/Ogbene -- Hamer -- Barry

----- Campbell

COYRAWW
UTMB
FTP

 

[Shawy24]

Law of averages say we'll get off the mark soon, but at least they're doing something about it,. If wilder is to come back while they're at it can we get rid of them bloody nfc things and get bloody turnstiles back in, also where's Pukka pies gone, gerrum back

We have Pukka pies. Lovely they are. But we still have shit “beer”.

 

[Bladesman]

Yep I think it was amicable but that would mean that there was something on both sides that they relised it wouldn't work. What was that?

I think the half a million quid in fines may have had a factor.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Why would you want a DoF?

Calls for a director of football is essentially short hand for club having a clear plan and process isn't it. We don't necessarily need a guy in a job to do that

 

[Ricardo Mantelban]

He’s back and We should and probably all do wish him absolute success. For me it’s that winning feeling at 5pm on a Saturday that makes my weekend. The style of play is secondary. I loved the Bassett era and you can’t say that was classic sexy football. Wish we had a Deano god bless him.

 

[JPBrods]

Issue for me is I think Wilder needed a humbling to become a better manager, and he got one last season. Unfortunately his return will be seen as triumphant and will probably stroke his ego. If I see him singing songs in a pub at all this season when we've still got stuff to play for it'll rankle.

 

[RAP51]

Whatever is said about the Prince, one thing is certain he absolutely is Football Mad- I bet he's pleased as punch Chris is back - like most of us, what a morning - perfect!

What hasn't been announced yet is COH ran an AI programme on ownership and it advised them to sell the club back to the previous owner for £1

 

[Yoonitedite]

Sticking plaster no..... adrenaline shot to the heart yes, Chris knows the club inside out and a lot of the players, he will get instant results, win 3 on the bounce and we go into the top 10, regroup then get to top six, then who knows, he is a mgr that can , and will do this

I would bet my life Thomas Frank knew Brentford inside out,Klopp knew Liverpool inside out,Dyche knew Burnley inside out.

Isn't it a managers job to do so?

I don't see how a local,ish, bloke gains an edge because he stood on the terraces of a club he supported.

Wilder at times gives the impression he IS Sheffield United and cannot be questioned.
Loves the adoration from the sycophants though.

When oh when will this club move on.

He had his chance in the prem,couldn't keep us there,partial success.

Grasped defeat from the jaws of victory at Wembley,then sloped off instead of offering support to his players and acknowedging the 'Punters',like the mardy arsed egotist he is,egged on by his mates I imagine.

Almost success but failure ultimately.

He's had his day and is on the downward trajectory as a coach.

He might well be suited to DOF, who knows.
Think he has limitations there and would upset the decision makers who in the past have labelled him a Sunday league manager and I don't think that's entirely unfair,given the antics we witness.

Seems like his way or the highway.

So how can we expect to move forward rinsing and repeating past nearly's hoping this time it just might work.

We're more akin to Roy of the bleedin Rovers than a truly ambitious outfit.

Comic is what it is.

COH is looking like yet another poor choice so I don't have much faith in their ability to replace vertical football man.
Perhaps he meant virtual cos that would aptly describe us.

There's some major decisions to make.Appointing 'The Messiah' will end in tears yet again long term.

Unless they make him errand boy to go and identify a suitable candidate.

Thing is will he need to have frequented the terraces as a kid so he 'get's it/us.

We're not as unique as some wish to think.

 

[YES Blade]

I think this would be my take, the context and bigger picture of bringing him back...

The point about having the upper hand is what concerns me most, it’s the reason I don’t expect this to last.

 

[Matlock Blade]

Steel City double looks possible again for us now. Was fearing the double going the other way under Selles. I didn't want Wilder back, but seems the most sensible option now. As others have said, we can't keep returning to him for ever though!

 

[SB_90]

thinking for charlton. we might as well get our moneys worth out of the banner

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

I understand the negativity surrounding a possible Wilder return, but even with the frustrations of not getting over the line last season and the way the style was often frustrating and tactical changes at best confusing, there's no denying he can, has, and very well could again do a great job.
His record of turning things round is impeccable and, don't forget, has had us playing attractive attacking football before, with limited resources.
He's a manager and he manages. No one's perfect, and he has his faults, but he manages. His way maybe, but he manages.

 

[Tom Bott]

there’s dozens of managers out there

Selles is one of them, so is Xcisco Munoz and Slavisa Jokanovich.
Danny Rohl who won 5 games at Hillsborough all last season.

Dozens out there.

The biggest noise from the anti Wilder faction comes from S6, they would love Selles to be in charge of the forthcoming derbies.

There are plenty of posts on here with more than a whiff of Pork, still it drives the AI alogorithms to lead people to believe that a rumour from the few becomes FACT as Fallowfield would claim.

Given the outrage from some, regarding singing about a sausage roll at a private function, you might think that the police would have become involved, and arrests made.

Is this outrage fuelled by red or blue supporting fans though?

It's easy to gain traction on social media and sheeple will follow the wind with their blinkers firmly attached.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Dyche isn't coming here. He'd be mad to come here after his career.

We missed the boat with Challinor before he signed a new contract at Stockport. But he's not a Blade so the kop wouldn't be happy with him either.

I love the way a group of our fans can’t come to terms with the fact that we don’t want CW because he’s a blade (though of course that is fantastic), we want him because he has proven himself to be one of the best managers we have had. I know you won’t stop believing differently and will continue the silly posts trying to keep this view alive but maybe you’ll get it one day, we want the best for our club. Right now that is CW simple as that.