Chris setting his stall out

[Sean Thornton]

sell Brooks and use the money to remove the pillars on the kop, everybody's happy.

Leg room?

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

Push Brooks out of the door and you push Wilder closer to it as well. It's as simple as that.

It does seem that way, doesn't it ? I can't think of any other Utd manager in recent memory being as robustly opposed to the potential sale of a player, in public, as Wilder has been here. Let's hope Kev's risk management faculties are properly attuned to this. Perhaps someone from this forum could tap up Rug Ron, and persuade him to give Kev some, ahem, "staff development" ?

It all depends on what we're content with. Where we see ourselves in the game.

We've seen countless examples of failure when it comes to flashing the cash recently. Our neighbours and Birmingham being the two that instantly spring to mind.

Those failures are down to giving money to the wrong people, and not having a proper structure in the way it was being spent. The way Birmingham were spending in the summer under Redknapp was hilarious and always destined to fail.

We have a manager who has worked miracles with what he's had. He has a clear way of playing, and gets the best out of his players.

If the backing was there, there's no doubt in my mind that Wilder could assemble a squad of players to hammer this league.

But, it's not. We all know that things coming together like this are extremely rare. An extra push from those in charge would get us to the next level.

The only conclusions we can draw are that:

Our owners are content with where we are as a club, and have little desire to see us promoted.

They simply don't have the financial muscle to do it.

Or both.

So, are we happy with competing as a Championship club, and hoping that Wilder can pull off a miracle. Or are we fuming that the backing is all but non existent?

I know as fans we all naturally want more. But with how we're set up from top to bottom, this is our level right now.

Very well said. Sums up much about where we currently are, as both a club and a (clenches teeth and forces the word out) business.

Of course, it's all speculation so far. The "one permanent and rest as loans" line might be intended as a not so gentle nudge to the Board ... who might even respond with a bit more cash ... especially as things seem to be in flux at Board-level, again, at the moment. Let's hang fire on the screaming indictments, for now at least.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Do you really think that it’s “the £s that keep rolling in” to Bramall Lane that make Kevin McCabe a wealthy man?

Of course it is,I will also add the he doesn't want us to go up,because it would cost him too much in players wages,

 

[Sean Thornton]

One important aspect that people have not mentioned is that what if there is a sell on clause in DB's contract and we have no choice but to sell if it's activated???

He could go even if the board and CW does not want him to, surely?

If you mean a buy out clause it's been stated there isn't one.

 

[Davalon]

This is pretty much the only thing I agree with on this 4 page thread.
We need better than Cole and we need more committed players than Holmes and Sinclair.
We pretty much swept up all the lower league players we wanted at the beginning of the season and this proved a great policy, we were 'automatic' before the shit hit the fan.
Therefore the search for good talent has started again but what is available has been depleted (by United).
Everybody stop going crackers spending other peoples' money; we're fresh out of the third tier, haven't got billionaire owners, have suffered enormous misfortune and are still a decent bet for the playoffs.

Losing a key player to injury isn't enormous misfortune, it's football and happens to many teams each season.

Thankfully we now have a manager who isn't willing to buy into this outrageous perennial bad luck theory that has been perpetuated by our directors and too many fans for years.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Do you really think that it’s “the £’s that keep rolling in” to Bramall Lane that make Kevin McCabe a wealthy man?

I took a wheelbarrow full of cash in as tribute to Kev in this morning. There were hundreds of others doing the same. He was stood watching us in the window wearing a solid gold top hat, a huge gold chain with a diamond £ sign, smoking a huge Cuban cigar holding a gun to Wilders dogs head.

 

[Bookers Mullet]

Do you really think that it’s “the £’s that keep rolling in” to Bramall Lane that make Kevin McCabe a wealthy man?

No I think its his other businesses that keep him wealthy, I'm under no illusion that the Blades are a gold mine, but on the other hand I find it incredibly hard to believe that we are the bottomless pit that he keeps chucking money into. My belief is that well we have just about enough to keep ticking over that'll do it, and he'll happily leave it at that

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I took a wheelbarrow full of cash in as tribute to Kev in this morning. There were hundreds of others doing the same. He was stood watching us in the window wearing a solid gold top hat, a huge gold chain with a diamond £ sign, smoking a huge Cuban cigar holding a gun to Wilders dogs head.

Think you’re exaggerating, Kev doesn’t smoke....

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I’m looking on the pessimistic side of this story. “He’s going nowhere” suddenly becomes “if”.

Anyone who says “he’s not worth more than £10m” is a fool.

Money is stupid nowadays. An average player is worth double what they were 3 years ago. Brooks is a special player with a special talent. He’s ours. He’s worth whatever we say he’s worth, not what a club says they’re willing to pay. Set £25m as the price. Fuck em.

And yes, it IS that simple.

 

[Bookers Mullet]

I took a wheelbarrow full of cash in as tribute to Kev in this morning. There were hundreds of others doing the same. He was stood watching us in the window wearing a solid gold top hat, a huge gold chain with a diamond £ sign, smoking a huge Cuban cigar holding a gun to Wilders dogs head.

Some of us might call that buying a ticket or merchandise, mcCabe is a good man but he doesn't have the wealth needed to push the club to the next level, we can only hope that like Bassett (sorry Pinchy) before him we manage to unearth some gems and do it that way

 

[Sean Thornton]

Some of us might call that buying a ticket or merchandise, mcCabe is a good man but he doesn't have the wealth needed to push the club to the next level, we can only hope that like Bassett (sorry Pinchy) before him we manage to unearth some gems and do it that way

My sarcasm arose from you "rolling in" comment. Reading your follow up comments I can see you are more realistic.

It's not a bottomless pit, but it's a pit nonetheless.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Seems to me that dannysufc_ having looked through your comments on this thread, you are revelling in this speculation and opportunity to knock the club before anything has actually happened.
Am I wrong?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Jordan Rhodes - £10m

David Brooks - £10m

And folk say we should take that. Have a laugh

 

[Josh Aston]

How can you say that without knowing who the loans are?

Fair point suppose I based my comment around the liklehood of it been a younger premier league player which I’m not entirely sure is what we need now. Keeping brooks until the summer is a must for me some either loaned back to us for him to move in the summer or we refuse to sell which is unlikely.

Our first 11 proved it was more than a match for anyone in this league and better than most, with a bit of rotten luck and suspensions it has exposed our lack of depth especially in midfield, no team can lose its 2 best footballers and expect to carry on as normal I understand but out back up
Is simply not good enough.

 

[raul]

Think you’re exaggerating, Kev doesn’t smoke....

If someone else is paying....

 

[Rodley]

10m for a lad who was originally going on loan to Chesterfield is unbelievable value, especially with a loan back. I wouldn't blame the board personally, but do hope they give Wilder some money so it's not just 1 perm in this January.

It’s not. It’s light. It should be £15m at least. And no derisory deferment or based on clauses. Anything less is absolutely negligent.

 

[Booker4]

Also says he’s after 1 perm signing rest being loans.

Seems backing may be lacking - if you’ll excuse my poetry... surprises none of us I imagine.

I've listened twice to the interview now and never heard Wilder quantity the nature of the deals he wants. I heard him saying 4 players but not that one was permanent - obviously Leonard - and the rest loans, despite Andy Giddings tweet. Am I missing something?

 

[BridBladesman]

sell Brooks and use the money to remove the pillars on the kop, everybody's happy.

Sod the kop pillars, I’d rather have more leg room

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Isn’t this the key point tho? Our squad needs strengthening and he’s not YET regularly producing something out of nothing. Going into the 2nd half of the season relying on him to do so would be the bigger mistake.

But all of this comes back to why can’t we strengthen without selling. If we could/did The entire situation changes.

Exactly pal - the wider squad is weak and needs strengthening WITHOUT selling our better talent.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

I've listened twice to the interview now and never heard Wilder quantity the nature of the deals he wants. I heard him saying 4 players but not that one was permanent - obviously Leonard - and the rest loans, despite Andy Giddings tweet. Am I missing something?

I've also listened to the interview and I also didnt hear CW mention loan signings?? Giddings said this in his tweet. Unless we are both missing something....

 

[Blade56]

To be honest, if a club came in and offered £10 million for Brooks, I'd take it. I'd rather not sell him but if we replaced him with someone good, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Bit nieve SM. If we sold Brooke's for £10m have a guess at how much would go to CW to build the team? He'd be lucky to see £2m

 

[Superblades]

RE: schoolboy looks

Pretty telling he’s come out and said this. Would sicken me if we had a Saudi Prince on board, all McCabe’s spiel about not selling our best players now we’re up etc and then sell him anyway against the managers wishes.

If he’s sold then it will be interesting to see Wilders reaction, there will only be so many times he will let the board take the piss before he walks and rightly so.

 

[Booker4]

It’s not. It’s light. It should be £15m at least. And no derisory deferment or based on clauses. Anything less is absolutely negligent.

For me its not what he's worth now and what's a good deal now that matters. Its what the maximum deal we can get in the future that matters and whether selling him now will see us massively lose out in the future. For example I believe that Brooks will go for maybe £10m now and this time next year, could be worth twice that. What's the risk? That he gets injured? Always a possibility, but I think keeping Brooks is a no brainer. Otherwise its like having a house that needs some work, selling it in a state, and watch someone else buy the house, do it up and sell it on for a huge profit! That's my best analogy anyway!

 

[Booker4]

I've also listened to the interview and I also didnt hear CW mention loan signings?? Giddings said this in his tweet. Unless we are both missing something....

He mentioned players going out as loans or permanents but not the same detail on players coming in.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

He mentioned players going out as loans or permanents but not the same detail on players coming in.

Hmm looks like Giddings needs to clarify his tweet then?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Think you’re exaggerating, Kev doesn’t smoke....

Bert gave it him. You don't turn down stuff like that.

 

[Small Mendonca]

Bit nieve SM. If we sold Brooke's for £10m have a guess at how much would go to CW to build the team? He'd be lucky to see £2m

That would be the problem with that idea, I agree. If Brooks does have to go, we should hang on at least a year or 2 as we could get £20 million for him and at least then, Wilder would get £3 million to spend on players

 

[madeinsheffield]

Wilder is currently our biggest asset, keep him happy, and he keeps everyone, fans, board, staff happy.

 

[alcoblade]

Also says he’s after 1 perm signing rest being loans.

Seems backing may be lacking - if you’ll excuse my poetry... surprises none of us I imagine.

Backing is certainly lacking. I’m surprised he doesn’t actually want to sell Brooks, given the resourcevon offer.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Worth listening to the full interview.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05rpwt6

In order to reduce the current pressure on Coronary Care @ t'Hallamshire may be worth doing what "UnitedBlade" advocates

Absolutely NO reference to "only 1 signing / 3 loans" & little if anything to merit the frenzy about flogging DB beyond the usual frank answer to a direct question
WTF more could /can Tufty say beyond the truth of the situation
GET A GRIP AFORE YOUR HEADS EXPLODE

PS the world ends tomorrow - according to Twatter/ Arsebook