Chris setting his stall out

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...of course, this could all be a smoke screen for when we buy ( practically) fuck all in Jan and Brooks stays...

“At least we didn’t sell Brooks” ;)
 



Let's not let facts get in the way please
Tbf, he's a bit bigger than five foot. Although he only looks about twelve years old so he may still grow a bit.
 
Oh believe me I totally agree, I'm just saying if it happens then I know Wilder, unlike previous managers, will sign a good replacement. Not a better player but a good one.

Well not in January if we’re getting just the one permant signing, as Wilder has stated he’s bid for Leonard.
 
The most I’m giving him is a cross-cum-shot. He just didn’t seem to stand it up like a cross at all. Whether he admitted it or not I’m putting it down to modesty :)
Thanks for not pointing out that my contribution to this thread was about as late as a Dean Hammond surge into the penalty area.:(
 
It’s not a want to sell our young talent. But you need to make decisions based on current circumstances... and they are we’re missing a couple of real quality players that we’ll need to sustain our play off position... and there is no way we can afford those players at the moment.

He’s isn’t first name on the team sheet and his stock is high and bearing in mind our only other really saleable assets are Fleck or O’Connell - I know what I’d rather happen.

IF and I mean IF it resulted in us coming out of the window (potentially a lot) stronger... for me we should consider selling.

So for the club I think it’s lose lose. We sell there will be uproar we don’t, there will be uproar as we probably won’t spend and potentially slip out of the play-offs.

The principal of keeping him because he will be a big player for us relies upon us being being patient... and no one is patient in football.
But we have seen time and time again that managers are not given the funds from these kind of sales.

Its like a wife who gets beaten by her husband but keeps defending him and coming back. If we sell Brooks, Wilder will get a small portion of that fee to reinvest into the first team as is always the way.

And I can ausure you there will be no uproar if we don't sell him. Why would there be when he will be worth far more in a year's time than now anyway?
 
One important aspect that people have not mentioned is that what if there is a sell on clause in DB's contract and we have no choice but to sell if it's activated???

He could go even if the board and CW does not want him to, surely?
 
I really don’t know where these bids for coady and Egan come from in the summer then. CW confirmed the bid for coady at the time so we have to assume it was true. Has something changed since then?

We are in a far better position than most would have imagined right now, considering we are still 6th after such a poor month since the Fulham game it shows we really do have a genuine chance to achieve something here. However one permanent signing which is Leonard who I add southend are adamant they aren’t selling him and seem to either want to sell him to someone else or lose him
On a free in the summer and 3 Loan signings really don’t cut the mustard for me, bearing in mind the board after our relegation to league one which seemed a life time ago blamed short term signings and loans on our failures.

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One important aspect that people have not mentioned is that what if there is a sell on clause in DB's contract and we have no choice but to sell if it's activated???

He could go even if the board and CW does not want him to, surely?
That's because Wilder has categorically stated there is no release clause.
 
That's because Wilder has categorically stated there is no release clause.
Not seen or heard that but good news nonetheless

Still think that £10m is a good price for someone that may or may not make it in the big time. At this time as we stand I think it's a fair price.
 
It's pretty obvious we can't compete with any club other than the likes of Burton and Bolton. I just wish McCabe would be honest about this instead of saying "were gonna have a real go at it" like he said at the end of last season.

Undoubtedly underwhelming stuff from the club and Wilder coming out saying what he has is naturally worrying. You couldn't blame Wilder for thinking of walking while his stock is so high and countless other clubs could offer him more than we can.
 
Push Brooks out of the door and you push Wilder closer to it as well. It's as simple as that.

The myopic, masochistic bastards who want to "cash in" on Brooks haven't factored that in of course.

I don’t realistically think the board will sell without Wilders backing... and I don’t think that will happen unless a) he’s got a tiny transfer budget or b) he thinks it will improve us.

If they did, I agree, it’s the beginning of the end.
 
If we sell Brooks, Wilder will get a small portion of that fee to reinvest into the first team as is always the way.

And with this in mind I'd love to know who we could sign in January who we couldn't anyway.


I really don’t know where these bids for coady and Egan come from in the summer then. CW confirmed the bid for coady at the time so we have to assume it was true. Has something changed since then?

We've given new (bigger) contracts to O'Connell, Fleck and Brooks!
 
Push Brooks out of the door and you push Wilder closer to it as well. It's as simple as that.

The myopic, masochistic bastards who want to "cash in" on Brooks haven't factored that in of course.

Exactly.

If McCabe goes down the same route he did last time we were in the Championship then Wilder won't be sticking around for long.
 



It's pretty obvious we can't compete with any club other than the likes of Burton and Bolton. I just wish McCabe would be honest about this instead of saying "were gonna have a real go at it" like he said at the end of last season.

Undoubtedly underwhelming stuff from the club and Wilder coming out saying what he has is naturally worrying. You couldn't blame Wilder for thinking of walking while his stock is so high and countless other clubs could offer him more than we can.
If we sell Brooks and he walks I won’t blame him at all. He’s done wonders with a hand tied behind his back, especially this year. He deserves better.

If he was a free man, with no compo to pay, I reckon a prem side would take a chance.

Swansea job is up for grabs...
 
Not seen or heard that but good news nonetheless

Still think that £10m is a good price for someone that may or may not make it in the big time. At this time as we stand I think it's a fair price.
Yes, it was also confirmed in the Star article yesterday. I'd expect £10m plus substantial add ons and a cut of any re-sale profit.
 
And I can ausure you there will be no uproar if we don't sell him. Why would there be when he will be worth far more in a year's time than now anyway?

Sorry was more... if we only sign len and don’t splash the cash ‘when’ we slip out of the playoffs and finish 8th there will be an uproar. Especially if Brooks is being used as he currently is.

...and it’s not a given he’ll be worth more.
 
I got told by someone that works at the club that McCabe had said explicitly that they won't sell Brooks.

This Star story smacks of letting us down gently however and I'll be fucking fuming if he goes.

It's bad enough that they are not significantly backing wilder now after the season we've had.
 
He will be in no doubt that the squad needs strengthening... but the calibre of player we’ll now be looking at will COST and cost big and I’m not sure we have the money.
This is pretty much the only thing I agree with on this 4 page thread.
We need better than Cole and we need more committed players than Holmes and Sinclair.
We pretty much swept up all the lower league players we wanted at the beginning of the season and this proved a great policy, we were 'automatic' before the shit hit the fan.
Therefore the search for good talent has started again but what is available has been depleted (by United).
Everybody stop going crackers spending other peoples' money; we're fresh out of the third tier, haven't got billionaire owners, have suffered enormous misfortune and are still a decent bet for the playoffs.
 
If its up to the board, he`ll go.

The fact the `8 figure` bid has been leaked suggests to me he`s going, that is why Wilder has opened up today IMO.

Best manager, best squad in years and our board won`t back him to the hilt.

Will create a divide between manager and board.
 
I got told by someone that works at the club that McCabe had said explicitly that they won't sell Brooks.

This Star story smacks of letting us down gently however and I'll be fucking fuming if he goes.

It's bad enough that they are not significantly backing wilder now after the season we've had.


McCabe says no. Someone else says yes. Saves putting money in.
 
Could be a fun transfer window, but probably not in the way were hoping for, could be a season of attrition for McCabe as if Wilder and Brooks go, I think the fans will turn. Not the Kev will give a toss really as long as the £'s keep rolling in.

Do you really think that it’s “the £’s that keep rolling in” to Bramall Lane that make Kevin McCabe a wealthy man?
 



one permanent signing which is Leonard who I add southend are adamant they aren’t selling him and seem to either want to sell him to someone else or lose him
On a free in the summer and 3 Loan signings really don’t cut the mustard for me, bearing in mind the board after our relegation to league one which seemed a life time ago blamed short term signings and loans on our failures.

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How can you say that without knowing who the loans are?
 

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