CONFIRMED Chris Morgan to work with Danny Wilson

[William Henry Foulkes]

Good Pele, there's some wild stuff going on at Shirecliffe, isn't there?

 

[ghandi]

OK Morgs first and foremost was a stopper he is doing all his badgers so must have serious ambitions to be a top coach.Being a top footballer doesn't mean you will be a top coach.Anybody who watch,s the under 21s will tell you they play really good football with good technical ability ,the Birmingham game was a treat to watch.Hopefully all our coaches are singing from the same hymn sheet and Morgan his playing his part,he is a winner and if he can instill that in the young players all the better.

The academy develop the young players and they are passed through to the U-21s where Morgan is the manager therefore Morgan has nothing to do with their early development. Not so long ago Morgan was told that by a previous management of the club he had to play the way the academy players had been taught otherwise he would be moved from his U-21 role. I think we see now see the results of the Morgan's conversion which is probably why now he maybe in a little more demand.

 

[ghandi]

Straw Man Alert 1 - I think Arsenal are great example of how the game can be played
Straw Man Alert 2 - In an inaugural meeting of BIFA, I was one of about 3 people in a crowd of about 300 who voted for Bassett to be replaced.

The rest of your post is built on the same nonsense, so there's no point dissecting it.

UTB

I was at the inaugural meeting of BIFA and no such vote was held.

 

[ghandi]

Ooh a closet pig as well as a ****

Do really think Pinchy suffers from Downs Syndrome?

 

[alcoblade]

I was at the inaugural meeting of BIFA and no such vote was held.

Oh yes it was. It was a show of hands in the city hall.

UTB

 

[Old Skool]

The beautiful game, S2 style....

Forget pass and move. Gerritforrard.

I can't imagine why clubs are not fighting in the Lane car park to secure the services of old Muckanettles or, indeed, why Dinosaur Dave is unemployable except when we feel the need to embarrass ourselves in the course of an interview process.

Adkins is a football man. His four promotion winning teams all played the game properly. He should have like thinking people around him, not be required to have a relic of a bygone age foisted on him simply because he's called Morgs and the least sophisticated fans in the world like him.

Does anyone seriously think NA would employ Morgan if he wasn't already here?.... Why would he? Nobody else wants to.

Incidentally, we played our best football of the season for half an hour on Saturday. It was pass and move all the way. Proper football; the sort successful teams play. For those of you who prefer pub league stuff, it's available every Sunday morning at a recreation ground near you.

nchy

Dear Pinchy...you are one of the worst WUMS' I have ever had the misfortune to read. Do us all a favour pal and slink off back to piggsboro or what other stinking cesspit you inhabit...get a wash and for the love of god.......hand back the keyboard to the poor bastard who actually has to care for you

 

[ghandi]

Oh yes it was. It was a show of hands in the city hall.

UTB

Your memory is better than mine then. The stand out moment of the meeting was Kaz saying the only way to get rid of Brearley was to torch him out of his property!

 

[Paulus]

OK Morgs first and foremost was a stopper he is doing all his badgers so must have serious ambitions to be a top coach.Being a top footballer doesn't mean you will be a top coach.Anybody who watch,s the under 21s will tell you they play really good football with good technical ability ,the Birmingham game was a treat to watch.Hopefully all our coaches are singing from the same hymn sheet and Morgan his playing his part,he is a winner and if he can instill that in the young players all the better.

Tell us then, what is Morgan doing to his badgers?

 

[Pinchy]

nchy

Dear Pinchy...you are one of the worst WUMS' I have ever had the misfortune to read. Do us all a favour pal and slink off back to piggsboro or what other stinking cesspit you inhabit...get a wash and for the love of god.......hand back the keyboard to the poor bastard who actually has to care for you

Nice to know old school s2 values are alive and well. Another parochial hoofer who knows nothing of life beyond John Street, no doubt.

 

[alcoblade]

Your memory is better than mine then. The stand out moment of the meeting was Kaz saying the only way to get rid of Brearley was to torch him out of his property!

It was one of the first things that happened. It was just to clarify that the aim of the organisation would be to target Brealey. I was also of the opinion that Bassetts time was up.

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

Oh dear, the S2 natives are restless at the thought of losing old Muckanettles. Unsurprisingly, being the least sophisticated and most parochial fans in the world, they clearly share his "Nowt Fancy - Like Bassett" philosophy. So much so that, again entirely predictably, the call goes out for another Bassett man, Brian Deane. Quite what claim he has to coaching our u21s I can't imagine but he's called Deano so that will do, never mind that his only coaching experience is in Norway, the Heartland of Hoof.

I did think of suggesting a few candidates who were not Bladey Blades but, knowing the vast majority of our fans will simply not be able to compute such a notion, I suggest the legendary music hall comedy duo of Monty and Koz.

Anyway, thanks for your efforts as a player Chris, but I'm absolutely delighted you're leaving. You were appointed as a cost-cutting measure, not because of any coaching ability. Your departure is both welcome and long overdue.

"Nowt Fancy - Like Bassett". Good luck with that in the 20th Century....

 

[Pinchy]

Do really think Pinchy suffers from Downs Syndrome?

The very use of the word tells us all we need to know about the user, I'm afraid.

 

[northsomersetblade]

Bit harsh pinchy but for the best all round, I agree.

For all his heroic qualities he has been an ever present skeleton at the famine.

 

[Pinchy]

I have a feeling Morgan will be back at the Lane sometime in the future - good luck to him (except against us). Meantime what's the odds Brian Deane gets a crack at the u/21's?



I am usually broadly in agreement with you but I'm not sure Harris is the best example. Harris was good (great even) at spotting and bringing forward talent but even he recognised that you had to adjust styles according to the ability of the players you had available and what would work against the opposition - there were marked differences in his fifties, sixties and seventies sides and there had to be given the club's penchant for cashing in on its best players. The best managers are pragmatists more than purists in my opinion. This is a three wheels on my second-hand wagon season for Adkins and it is playing to our own strengths not some second hand blueprint that will make a difference. The idea of Basham playing tippy-tappy (actually it would be tippy because his first pass would go into touch) is scary. He has the touch of an elephant at the moment.



I was there too, with my late father and my son (the only match the three of us went to together). I disagree - thought the Huddersfield and Wolves play-off finals were more one-sided games (although they weren't 2-1 I know). In football success breeds success because success gets you money and success and money can get you class players. Much as I love and have loved the class ball players over the last 50 odd years, Sheffield United are not going to have the likes of Platini etc playing for us anytime soon whilst we are rooted in this division. I sense in some of the things you say that you would rather not win if we can't win aesthetically. I take the view of gradual improvement and winning ugly when we have to to reach the next level and progress. A bit functionalist I know but for me what matters is what works.

You argue well, apart from the Huddersfield game which was 50/50, both sides being as dreadful as each other.

I can understand the winning before pleasing approach without sharing it. What I can't accept, and I'm pretty sure you don't either, is the simplistic, nay stupid, S2 approach that ugly will always win and only ugly can win. It is that sort of embarrassing and risible nonsense that sums up our fans for me.

 

[Pinchy]

Bit harsh pinchy but for the best all round, I agree.

For all his heroic qualities he has been an ever present skeleton at the famine.

Very well put. I couldn't have said it better myself. Hang on, I'll have a go:

 

[alcoblade]

Pinchy starts another debate about football philosophies.....;

 

[Pinchy]

Who'll take over the U21s? Will we advertise it, will Adkins get to bring someone in, or will we promote from within? May I suggest Brian Deane?

Why? Nobody, absolutely nobody, would be suggesting him if he hadn't played for us previously.

Utter parochial Bladey claptrap.

 

[spongebobblade]

Whether it's tippy tally or up and at em football, every team needs a Chris Morgan in it. It's what we need right now and it's no coincidence that our decline started when Morgs got injured.
There is also the perception that because of the way Morgs is/ played that he coaches football in the same way and his methods are prehistoric. This couldn't be further from the truth. He is a talented man who commands respect and shows immense loyalty to the people around him. He is ambitious enough but after the Weir episode will have realised that United just can't afford to hand the reins to a rookie again. He will have his day in management soon and who knows?
Good luck Morgs
Thanks for the memories

 

[Pinchy]

It was one of the first things that happened. It was just to clarify that the aim of the organisation would be to target Brealey. I was also of the opinion that Bassetts time was up.

UTB

I didn't join until two or three meetings down the line. I'm pleased that you exercised an independent view rather than following the party line on Bassett. I have no doubt that if Bifa's founding father had his way, Bassett would still be in charge to this day.....

 

[wizadry]

I did think of suggesting a few candidates who were not Bladey Blades but, knowing the vast majority of our fans will simply not be able to compute such a notion

Tell us a couple of names pinchers because i'm interested as to who could take over this role, i personally think it will be someone from inside the club but i'm all ears to suggestions.

 

[alcoblade]

I didn't join until two or three meetings down the line. I'm pleased that you exercised an independent view rather than following the party line on Bassett. I have no doubt that if Bifa's founding father had his way, Bassett would still be in charge to this day.....

Me and about 3 others Pinchy. It was.......uncomfortable.

UTB

 

[northsomersetblade]

All the best to him, and Danny Wilson who got so close for us.

Just let's hope it doesn't extend to putting out teams to take the piss out of our poor sad plodding boys like they did it the early eighties, Alan Birch, Phil Bonnyman, Ernie Moss, Geoff Salmons, what an unfair advantage, bah

 

[SandyMcBlade]

It always makes me cringe when I hear apparently intelligent people quote teams like Barcelona and Arsenal, as examples, conveniently forgetting they've got players from all over the world getting more than our teams wages combined...
Where in the third division for crying out loud, and I think it was all this trying to change our style of play that got us here..
You can't get a team of players who can play this kind of football on the cheap, we may drop lucky for the odd player or two but there's no way we can hold on to them.
Sorry but it's all pie in the sky...

 

[Pinchy]

Whether it's tippy tally or up and at em football, every team needs a Chris Morgan in it. It's what we need right now and it's no coincidence that our decline started when Morgs got injured.
There is also the perception that because of the way Morgs is/ played that he coaches football in the same way and his methods are prehistoric. This couldn't be further from the truth. He is a talented man who commands respect and shows immense loyalty to the people around him. He is ambitious enough but after the Weir episode will have realised that United just can't afford to hand the reins to a rookie again. He will have his day in management soon and who knows?
Good luck Morgs
Thanks for the memories

Pious preaching mate. You're entitled to your opinion but it's not gospel simply because you say it.

He won't have his day as a manager anytime soon. Some lower league club would have offered him a job by now were that the case.

He isn't a talented coach. He was appointed to save money. His "Nowt Fancy - Like Bassett" philosophy is that of a dinosaur. It has no place in modern football (S2 excepted of course) and hasn't for decades. It is an acutely embarrassing statement and I hope it helped the board to realise that old Muckanettles has no place in a progressive coaching team committed to playing the game in the right way. "Like Bassett" could not be further away from that aim.

Morgan stumbled into coaching. He has torn up not a single tree. If he had, it would have been noticed at lesser clubs looking for a manager of promise. He has none. He is a relic of a past from which we desperately need to move on. His departure is as welcome as it is overdue.

Now let's avoid the "Deano" nonsense and let NA bring in his own choice, not steeped in Bladey Bladeness but rather in good football.

Thank you for your efforts as a player, Chris. You were a limited but wholehearted defender and a good leader. Coach or Manager you are not, as time will assuredly tell. No amount of sanctimonious bleating will imbue you with ability you haven't got. I wish you no harm but you were perfectly well rewarded for your service to our club, including a coaching appointment you didn't earn. I'm delighted you're leaving.

 

[spongebobblade]

Pious preaching mate. You're entitled to your opinion but it's not gospel simply because you say it.

He won't have his day as a manager anytime soon. Some lower league club would have offered him a job by now were that the case.

He isn't a talented coach. He was appointed to save money. His "Nowt Fancy - Like Bassett" philosophy is that of a dinosaur. It has no place in modern football (S2 excepted of course) and hasn't for decades. It is an acutely embarrassing statement and I hope it helped the board to realise that old Muckanettles has no place in a progressive coaching team committed to playing the game in the right way. "Like Bassett" could not be further away from that aim.

Morgan stumbled into coaching. He has torn up not a single tree. If he had, it would have been noticed at lesser clubs looking for a manager of promise. He has none. He is a relic of a past from which we desperately need to move on. His departure is as welcome as it is overdue.

Now let's avoid the "Deano" nonsense and let NA bring in his own choice, not steeped in Bladey Bladeness but rather in good football.

Thank you for your efforts as a player, Chris. You were a limited but wholehearted defender and a good leader. Coach or Manager you are not, as time will assuredly tell. No amount of sanctimonious bleating will imbue you with ability you haven't got. I wish you no harm but you were perfectly well rewarded for your service to our club, including a coaching appointment you didn't earn. I'm delighted you're leaving.

You too are entitled to your opinion which also isn't gospel. I happen to think you will be proved wrong. Each to they're own.

 

[Pinchy]

It always makes me cringe when I hear apparently intelligent people quote teams like Barcelona and Arsenal, as examples, conveniently forgetting they've got players from all over the world getting more than our teams wages combined...
Where in the third division for crying out loud, and I think it was all this trying to change our style of play that got us here..
You can't get a team of players who can play this kind of football on the cheap, we may drop lucky for the odd player or two but there's no way we can hold on to them.
Sorry but it's all pie in the sky...

Of course we can't play like Barcelona or Arsenal but we can aspire to be the third division equivalent. It did Norwich, Bournemouth and notably, Southampton no harm at all to play good passing football in Division Three. Proper football will always prevail over Hoof and Hope, at whatever level. It's all relative. Your philosophy of despair and willing acceptance of Hoof and Hope garbage is what makes me cringe. Why not reach out for better? Is it really such an uncomfortable thought in S2?

 

[alcoblade]

Why not reach out for better? Is it really such an uncomfortable thought in S2?

We did 7 years ago. We've been in the third division for 5 years. The worst spell in the club's history. That's an uncomfortable fact in S2.

UTB

 

[SandyMcBlade]

We've been reaching out for the last 7 seasons Pinchy, don't doubt we will get promotion some time but to reach the heights your wanting will take a lot of real money.
Dream on..

 

[Pinchy]

You too are entitled to your opinion which also isn't gospel. I happen to think you will be proved wrong. Each to they're own.

Indeed. I'm sorry for you though if your "own" is "Nowt Fancy - like Bassett". It's certainly Morgan's "own" and the vast majority of sensible progress clubs will want nothing to do with such embarrassing nonsense. Quite right too. I certainly don't want any such ideas at our club. Let me make it clear. It's not merely that I'm glad he's moved on; I would never have appointed him in the first place and would have sacked him long before now. If that upsets all the Bladey Blades, I'll have to live with it. Personally, I support Sheffield United, not Dinosaur Dave or Muckanettles Morgan. If I think our club is better off without Morgan, I'll say so. I do.

 

[northsomersetblade]

Pinchy speak with straight tongue. No team will ever turn up at the world cup and play hoof, for example.

It is a failed philosophy that can be effective when there is little ability on display, so work rate and physicality can temporarily gain an advantage. This must not be confused with progress, but luckily all good sides know this.

You can tell which ones they are because they win things.