Ched Evans interview

[Davalon]

And what roots would they have been? Her lifelong support of the Blades? 'People like me would no doubt have called her out...'? You seem to know me better than I know myself.

Look, Ennis, Heaton and Charlie (#MeToo) Webster got their virtue-signalling in too early and have kept quiet since Ched was acquitted. Anyway, I've had enough of this 'pitchfork politics'. Jean Hatchett would be proud.

With respect, I note your difference of opinion and don't agree with it. (See? Not a 'largely bollocks' in sight.)

Her success is hardly a difference of opinion though. The medals are there to back it up.

Anyway this is me done on this thread. As much as I feel for Ched with what he's been through, I've felt Ched Evans has been a divisive topic amongst fans.

As much as I'd love to see him come good, the constant going over old ground that many of us can't help doing, myself included, and the unlikelihood of him getting back to a level required for our current position and aspirations, means I sometimes think a new start for everyone may be better.

Nothing against the lad whatsoever and I genuinely hope he manages some success as a player before it's too late. I just have serious misgivings it will be at this level now.

 

[The Crab]

Are you saying he can't have those ambitions? I've got ambitions to play for England and play in the Premier League, and I'm 39 with knackered knees and no football talent.

Not at all mate. It's ambitions that drive us all. I hope he does achieve those ambitions, but don't think he will. More than happy to be proven wrong though.

I'm 9 years ahead of you with biscuit knees and no talent either

 

[Dkc]

Charlie Webster on the other hand has a case to answer given the double standard of condemning SUFC but plastering pictures all over social media of her meeting Mike Tyson.

It was just a single tweet I think, she was in an elevator with him and the tweet referred to not getting an autograph or summat. Can't be bothered digging it out but I don't think there were any pictures. Still, it demonstrated how firm her moral principles were.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Ched's not the brightest but does he really think he's a better player now? He didn't light up league one last year. Can't get in our side now.

If we go up he's got to go. If we don't he'll most likely rot away in a position we've got to be looking to get better options in.


As for the rest of it all. Old news same views going around and around. Beyond bored of it all!

 

[wizadry]

If what happened with Ched happened at a club like West Ham the outpouring of media reaction both for and against would’ve been flipped upside down.

 

[ucandomagic]

Remember, Ennis’ statement came out after Ched was released while still a convicted rapist when he was training with us. The statement said that she wanted her name removed if we offered him a contract. The statement read “I believe being a role model to young people is a huge honour and those in positions of influence in communities should respect the role they play in young people’s lives and set a good example. If Evans was to be re-signed by the club it would completely contradict these beliefs.”

If she held those beliefs then the statement is reasonable, although it violates a belief that time served should then allow people to get on with their lives.

I can’t see what she could say now that would change anything as she presumably still holds those beliefs.

 

[stringer]

Simon Jordan said that if he was Kevin McCabe he would have stripped Jessica Ennis' name off the stand as soon as she piped up and contributed hugely to putting the club in the position it was.

I couldn't agree more and it still winds me up thinking about it.

That we named a stand after her in the first place was totally pathetic, let alone generous and unnecessary. To then leave her name on it after she threw it back in our face was so pitifully weak and a total insult to ourselves. We did ourselves a huge disservice.

The silence from Ennis since he was found not guilty has been deafening.

Same goes for all the ignorant attention seeking preaching fuckwits who reported it so unfairly and said such vile, damaging things.

Reported it unfairly? I.e. reported he was found guilty of rape by a jury, and then reported he’d had that overturned and then reported he’d been found not guilty at a retrial? What was unfair, exactly?

 

[stringer]

Remember, Ennis’ statement came out after Ched was released while still a convicted rapist when he was training with us. The statement said that she wanted her name removed if we offered him a contract. The statement read “I believe being a role model to young people is a huge honour and those in positions of influence in communities should respect the role they play in young people’s lives and set a good example. If Evans was to be re-signed by the club it would completely contradict these beliefs.”

If she held those beliefs rhen the statement is reasonable,

Great post.

 

[Brian Blessed]

He spoke to Jim White yesterday for about 10 minutes in the Copthorne Hotel yesterday.

Main points were
He always believed and said he was innocent and he found it tough in prison.
Said he coped by taking each day as it comes
Said he’s got no bitterness about the events because he’s still young with a lot of life to look forward to.
Said he felt terrible for his family and friends who were receiving terrible abuse and shame at the time due to seeing his face on the front page of papers.
Mentioned that the media were making a big deal asking him to apologise but he again said it was weird because as he was innocent he strongly felt that he shouldn’t apologies but the media criticised him even more.
Said he is really grateful to SU and the fans for giving him the opportunity to resurrect his career.
Said he’s been unfortunate with injuries but really feels he’s now a better player and is still hopeful of playing in the PL, said SU are close to the playoffs so hopefully we would get promoted this season.
He still has ambitions to play for Giggs Wales team.
Said he still receives abuse at about 70% of away matches, said they call him rapist this and rapist that
But said it doesn’t let it bother him.
He also admitted that he’s never spoke to the media since leaving prison and he feels better to finally speak about it.

So he felt terrible for his family and friends for receiving abuse - but no word for the other victim in this case, the girl who didn't even make a complaint against him but ended up being the one having to change her identity and move from her home town after being abused and illegally publicly named by said family and friends?

 

[shrubbery]

Thanks, but not the one I think which covers the case best, if I could I’d post a link I would but can’t, the article was printed on 12 Nov 2014 & is entitled sorry, but all rapes are not the same.
Cheers

Here's the original article:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...ans-Sorry-but-all-rapes-are-not-the-same.html

 

[I should coco]

Reported it unfairly? I.e. reported he was found guilty of rape by a jury, and then reported he’d had that overturned and then reported he’d been found not guilty at a retrial? What was unfair, exactly?

Come off it Danny04

Just reporting the facts, eh?

It's great we've got such fair minded journalists to protect us and hold the baddies to account.

 

[stringer]

Come off it Danny04

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Just reporting the facts, eh?

It's great we've got such fair minded journalists to protect us and hold the baddies to account.

Sorry, which of those headlines were untrue at the time?

 

[stringer]

While we're at it can we just take a moment to remember what a total cunt Charlie Webster was and is.

Although you could easily be forgiven for completely forgetting who she is....

Seen some absolute bollocks from you but that’s absolutely beyond anything else. A patron of SUFC who was sexually abused says that a convicted rapist shouldn’t play for her club, and it makes her a cunt? Unbelievable. Shameful post.

 

[Ricky]

Seen some absolute bollocks from you but that’s absolutely beyond anything else. A patron of SUFC who was sexually abused says that a convicted rapist shouldn’t play for her club, and it makes her a cunt? Unbelievable. Shameful post.

Relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible does, yes. A shameless, self promoting, fame hungry hypocritical cunt.

Had a crush on her while she was writing her shit columns for the Star, did you? Bless.

I'll leave it for you to feel the shame on my behalf. Maybe you can do one of your own shit articles about it...

 

[wizadry]

Seen some absolute bollocks from you but that’s absolutely beyond anything else. A patron of SUFC who was sexually abused says that a convicted rapist shouldn’t play for her club, and it makes her a cunt? Unbelievable. Shameful post.

Wrong again Danny, he said ‘total cunt’, will you ever speak the truth lad?

 

[stringer]

Relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible does, yes. A shameless, self promoting, fame hungry hypocritical cunt.

Had a crush on her while she was writing her shit columns for the Star, did you? Bless.

I'll leave it for you to feel the shame on my behalf. Maybe you can do one of your own shit articles about it...

Do an article about you on what? I’m wasting enough oxygen on you by replying.

‘Relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible does, yes. A shameless, self promoting, fame hungry hypocritical cunt.’

How’s the doomed BLUT plan going? Keep relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible, though.

 

[Dkc]

Seen some absolute bollocks from you but that’s absolutely beyond anything else. A patron of SUFC who was sexually abused says that a convicted rapist shouldn’t play for her club, and it makes her a cunt? Unbelievable. Shameful post.

She did more than that, she was on a one-woman crusade (while gushing over her encounter with Mike Tyson)

 

[Ricky]

I’m wasting enough oxygen on you by replying.

‘Relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible does, yes. A shameless, self promoting, fame hungry hypocritical cunt.’

How’s the doomed BLUT plan going? Keep relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible, though.

Great comparison by a great mind. Fuck me sideways....

 

[Dkc]

How’s the doomed BLUT plan going? Keep relentlessly saying it as many times as possible through as many platforms as possible, though.

That's a cheap jibe Danny, and not relevant to the topic. Ricky's put in an massive effort to improve the atmosphere. He shouldn't be slagged off for it.

 

[Ricky]

She did more than that, she was on a one-woman crusade (while gushing over her encounter with Mike Tyson)

She said hello to Danny once though and made him blush...

 

[Dkc]

Sorry, which of those headlines were untrue at the time?

The one in the Star demanding that Ched apologise?

Yes he was convicted at the time but the fact that he maintained his innocence, and his legal team were seeking a retrial was common knowledge. Why would he apologise for raping someone that he didn't? It would end his chance of a retrial.

If a retrial had been denied, or if he had been found guilty in the retrial, then perhaps that headline would have been justified.

 

[I should coco]

Sorry, which of those headlines were untrue at the time?

Er, hows about all of them to some extent?

The Sun's made up contract offer, your rag asking him to say sorry when he maintained his innocence and the law has proven his did nothing wrong, the Sun's 'Guilty' headline AFTER he was cleared.

When in a hole and all that.....

 

[stringer]

That's a cheap jibe Danny, and not relevant to the topic. Ricky's put in an massive effort to improve the atmosphere. He shouldn't be slagged off for it.

Less relevant/more cheap than this?

Had a crush on her while she was writing her shit columns for the Star, did you? Bless.

I'll leave it for you to feel the shame on my behalf. Maybe you can do one of your own shit articles about it...

 

[JohnDenver]

I'm 9 years ahead of you with biscuit knees and no talent either

Then I suggest you send your CV to [email protected].

Thank me later.

 

[stringer]

Er, hows about all of them to some extent?

The Sun's made up contract offer, your rag asking him to say sorry when he maintained his innocence and the law has proven his did nothing wrong, the Sun's 'Guilty' headline AFTER he was cleared.

When in a hole and all that.....

Where was the Sun’s guilty headline after he was cleared?

 

[Ricky]

Less relevant/more cheap than this?

If you don't want 'cheap' then possibly don't open your first reply to me with "Seen some absolute bollocks from you but...."

Just a suggestion.

 

[designblade]

Available to listen online now:

https://talksport.com/football/excl...d-return-how-he-still-gets-abuse-fans-and-his

 

[stringer]

If you don't want 'cheap' then possibly don't open your first reply to me with "Seen some absolute bollocks from you but...."

Just a suggestion.

I wasn’t the one complaining about cheap was I?

 

[I should coco]

Where was the Sun’s guilty headline after he was cleared?

The first one on the left hand side.



Perhaps actually looking at what I post rather than leaping to defend the Fourth Estate, would be a better journalistic tactic?

 

[stringer]

The first one on the left hand side.

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Perhaps actually looking at what I post rather than leaping to defend the Fourth Estate, would be a better journalistic tactic?

Yep didn’t see that one. That one was shite to be fair. And rather than ‘leaping to defend the Fourth Estate’, I did merely ask a question of which was unfair