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Just getting the View From Colombia together and amazingly they think they were cheated tonight and it was never a pen .

To be fair, I didn't think it was a pen either. Kane fouled their player first but the ref happened to look just as the Colombian reacted to the foul by jumping on Kane.

I expected VAR to overturn the decision.
 
Said the same. In all my years I don't think I've ever seen anyone digging the pissing pitch up. What the actual shit.

Hope FIFA fine the fuckers into oblivion. That's about as bad as it gets for me excluding actual violence.

I'd say on a par with ball tampering in cricket and ask the Australians about their punishments.

I want grown men crying or I'm not satisfied enough has been done haha

A fine won't do anything, they should be banned from the next world cup.
 
To be fair, I didn't think it was a pen either. Kane fouled their player first but the ref happened to look just as the Colombian reacted to the foul by jumping on Kane.

I expected VAR to overturn the decision.

I thought that was a foul on Lingard later on though
 
To be fair, I didn't think it was a pen either. Kane fouled their player first but the ref happened to look just as the Colombian reacted to the foul by jumping on Kane.

I expected VAR to overturn the decision.
Are you being serious, or is this a ‘whooosh’ moment on my behalf? One of the most blatant penalties you will ever see.
 

Are you being serious, or is this a ‘whooosh’ moment on my behalf? One of the most blatant penalties you will ever see.

Either blind or on a wind up. One of the most blatant penalties I have seen. Tried to mount him and ride him like a donkey.
 
Take a long hard look in the mirror.

Tunisia.
Panama.
Colombia.
Colombia coach.

First time i have ever seen a player try to dig the pitch up (penalty spot) with his boots.
I think that the synchronised protests and messing about with the penalty spot was something that was pre-planned in the event of a penalty against them. The coaching team had told them to do it, they mobbed the Ref for 3 minutes to try and put Kane off, it wasn’t spontaneous IMO.

What I don’t understand is that everybody could see what was happening and that the Ref was isolated and distracted. Why didn’t the Lino, 4th official or even the VAR team get involved. I think the wilful damage to the pitch to gain advantage alone was worth a red card.
 
I think that the synchronised protests and messing about with the penalty spot was something that was pre-planned in the event of a penalty against them. The coaching team had told them to do it, they mobbed the Ref for 3 minutes to try and put Kane off, it wasn’t spontaneous IMO.

What I don’t understand is that everybody could see what was happening and that the Ref was isolated and distracted. Why didn’t the Lino, 4th official or even the VAR team get involved. I think the wilful damage to the pitch to gain advantage alone was worth a red card.

The fact that this is caught on camera should be enough to penalise a side who behave like this. I'm puzzled by VAR, incident after incident is caught on camera, we all see it, yet the VAR ref's do fuck all! Why are they being selective and not responding to the visual evidence that's caught on camera? Henderson being headbutted on the chin was a red card, yet what happened???
 
The fact that this is caught on camera should be enough to penalise a side who behave like this. I'm puzzled by VAR, incident after incident is caught on camera, we all see it, yet the VAR ref's do fuck all! Why are they being selective and not responding to the visual evidence that's caught on camera? Henderson being headbutted on the chin was a red card, yet what happened???

I think VAR will eventually cut out a lot of the fouling in the box (and fingers crossed diving too). It will lead to a more honest game.

But the World Cup probably isn't the right place to start immediately using it to the max.
 
I think VAR will eventually cut out a lot of the fouling in the box (and fingers crossed diving too). It will lead to a more honest game.

But the World Cup probably isn't the right place to start immediately using it to the max.

Point taken, eventually it may be regarded as a vital piece of kit, but you can't avoid what they're seeing now, yet their inactivity is mind-boggling! Some fouls, no matter who perpetrated the foul, is caught on camera for all to see, so why don't they act?
 
I think VAR will eventually cut out a lot of the fouling in the box (and fingers crossed diving too). It will lead to a more honest game.

But the World Cup probably isn't the right place to start immediately using it to the max.

I actually think VAR has been great this world cup, not always in decisions they reach but in the minimal interruptions, which is probably where some of the poor decisions are coming from, the referees are hardly ever going to the screen themselves. It's always a finger in the ear, decision, which is quicker but relies on VAR refs not being shite and already at this world cup we've had some shocking misses from the VAR team.

Now the premier league which already has a terrible standard of referees (there are 2 competent ones) need another 3 to 4 or however many sit in the VAR room for every game, so on a busy day with 7 games you need another 21 qualified refs I assume to sit and look at the video or do they have one VAR room for all of them? They either won't have the numbers so it'll take longer, or they will have the numbers but not the experience and the decisions will be worse.

I imagine it's going to be an absolute shit show anyway.
 
I think that the synchronised protests and messing about with the penalty spot was something that was pre-planned in the event of a penalty against them. The coaching team had told them to do it, they mobbed the Ref for 3 minutes to try and put Kane off, it wasn’t spontaneous IMO.

What I don’t understand is that everybody could see what was happening and that the Ref was isolated and distracted. Why didn’t the Lino, 4th official or even the VAR team get involved. I think the wilful damage to the pitch to gain advantage alone was worth a red card.

It is at least a yellow. I was once booked for marking a line from each post to the edge of the six yard box, to help with my bearings when I came off my line. It's the same thing, wilfully interfering with the playing surface.
 
How come there were so many Colombians in the ground. Must have cost a fortune to get there from South America and I thought it is a fairly poor country.
Could be the Russian mafia paying for them I suppose, making drug deals and tickets for the match in one package.
 
Are you being serious, or is this a ‘whooosh’ moment on my behalf? One of the most blatant penalties you will ever see.

I thought (and still do having watched it again) that the first contact was Kane putting his arm across the Colombian's shoulders and pulling him. It wasn't a particularly strong pull granted but it seemed to put the defender in a position where he had to either let Kane go or foul him.

Not sure what I make of the issue of penalties being given for pushing at corners. At every single corner, each team probably commits a minimum of 2 or 3 fouls each and it's incredibly difficult to decide which came first. I don't think players should be allowed to just push and hold but I'm also not bothered about games being decided by a seemingly random lottery of who gets the penalty from a corner. Be interesting to see how it plays out.
 

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