che adams

[biggey blade]

I went to the walsall match and was just wondering what everyone's view was on che adams penalty?

Everyone in the stadium was in uproar that the penalty wasn't given. I thought it was a definite penalty and can't see why it wasn't given. All he had to do was get a foot to it and poke it into the back of the net so why would he go down if he could avoid it? The ref wasn't giving anything in our favour.

This is not the first time I have felt like he should have had a penalty and has been denied the penalty.

He has also been booked for going down in the box. Why is he so unlucky to not get a clear penalty.

I don't think we are a side that goes down looking for stuff so I can't understand why we never get the decisions in our favour was just wondering what everyone else's view was.

And I don't think I am been biased when I say that I don't think we are a side that goes down looking for fouls.

 

[Ricky]

He didn't dive this time. I can't believe that wasn't given. Red card too.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

The trouble is, referees have gone from one extreme to the other. wasn't long ago, when defenders were breathing on an attacker, who would fall over, and the man in the middle would be pointing to the spot. Now we have things like yesterday, which I am sure that when the referee looks back on it will cause him some embarrassment. By the way, Che, time you started to put into practice some of that potential.

 

[Bladesman]

The worst decision I have seen this season so far but I knew we were not going to get a decision from that ref. He managed to go the whole match without booking a Walsall player even though they kept chopping JCR.

It's a penalty any other day with any other ref.

 

[sothall blade]

The worst decision I have seen this season so far but I knew we were not going to get a decision from that ref. He managed to go the whole match without booking a Walsall player even though they kept chopping JCR.

It's a penalty any other day with any other ref.

conspiracy theory ?

 

[biggey blade]

I feel as though the ref bottled it because he knew if he blew the whistle it had to be a red card.

 

[Bladesman]

conspiracy theory ?

Nah it's just Adkins fault with his stubborness in always playing Adams who is a known diver. He could have played Done instead and we would have got the decision.

Well that's what a Rotherham United fan told me anyway.

 

[Grey Blade]

It certainly looked like a penalty at the time and even more so having seen the highlights. I do wonder what the" assistant referee" is supposed to be doing. Can't imagine he wasn't looking straight across the back line at the time. Doubt the conspiracy theory - think it's just bad judgement. Having said that I doubt there would have been many complaints had it been given

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Someone voted for NO?
Is the ref a member of this forum????

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

A penalty and a red card. Would've been interesting to see who took it - if Billy was still on.

As for one of the others I do think our players are more "professional" than last season, we will stay down, get in the ear of the ref, foul when needed.

One aspect if this is exaggerating contact. Adams was fouled but not enough to go down. You don't go down you don't get the penalty. So he goes down with amateurish theatricality. No penalty. Booking.

Needs to practise his "diving".

Better refereeing and we would have had three penalties, two fewer bookings, and a couple of sendings off all from Adams.

He definitely makes things happen, though atm it's sporadic.

Defensively often wanting but he recovered to get behind the ball when Southend broke last match. I think he even looked to the bench when their shot sailed over.

Southend took two unmarked short corners yesterday. Adams saw this. I don't think it was his job but a more experienced player would have either shouted to his teammates or covered anyway.

As it was he ended up in No Man's Land. (Not a criticism btw.)

 

[Grey Blade]

Someone voted for NO?

My money on Barry Blunt

 

[HighfieldBlade]

My money on Barry Blunt

2 votes for NO now.
Must be Barry and his Bescot Bestie the ref.

 

[Barry Blunt]

My money on Barry Blunt

Not me, honest. Looked a pen at the time from the opposite end of the ground, and still does watching it back.

Don't agree with the whole biased ref thing though. First half most decisions went your way. Players were constantly holding our players arms to stop them getting away, which went unpunished every time.

 

[Bladesman]

My money on Barry Blunt

I reckon the Rotherham fan from S25 voted no.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Yes, it looks like a penalty, and obviously a red card too.

I'm not too surprised the ref was uncertain though. From his position, right behind and quite far from the challenge, it must have been difficult to see whether O'Connor got a toe on the ball first. I also think it was difficult for the linesman to assess the degree of contact there was between the two players, with O'Connor coming in from the other side.

Sometimes we have to accept that referees don't see everything.

 

[diplomat]

That picture looks like a great tackle

 

[bladesmanluke]

You do all realise that Billy Sharp would have taken it anyway?

 

[DiggerBlade]

Or Jose Baxter.

 

[Hartley Hare]

I wager Barny has voted three times now.

HH

 

[UnitedBlade]

Yes, it looks like a penalty, and obviously a red card too.

I'm not too surprised the ref was uncertain though. From his position, right behind and quite far from the challenge, it must have been difficult to see whether O'Connor got a toe on the ball first. I also think it was difficult for the linesman to assess the degree of contact there was between the two players, with O'Connor coming in from the other side.

Sometimes we have to accept that referees don't see everything.

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The only reason the defender gets his toe on the ball is he has already delivered a forearm smash to Che's back. Hence Che's position.

A referee should see that and waste no time in dismissing him.

 

[UnitedBlade]

That picture looks like a great tackle

It wasn't, he'd already fouled him and he should have been sent off.

 

[diplomat]

It wasn't, he'd already fouled him and he should have been sent off.

Yeah, I've seen the highlight now, I agree. It shows how a photo can be misleading.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Had Adams been diving earlier in the game?

Had Adams been giving the ref grief over other decisions?

Stonewall penalty but some refs don't give certain players a thing.

 

[Bergen Blade]

The only reason the defender gets his toe on the ball is he has already delivered a forearm smash to Che's back. Hence Che's position.

A referee should see that and waste no time in dismissing him.

His leg catches him as well and I'm not sure he actually does get his toe on the ball. As said it's a penalty, but from the referee's angle it wasn't that obvious. Maybe 50% of refs would have given it from his position, 70% if we were at home, just my guess.

 

[BushBlade]

His leg catches him as well and I'm not sure he actually does get his toe on the ball. As said it's a penalty, but from the referee's angle it wasn't that obvious. Maybe 50% of refs would have given it from his position, 70% if we were at home, just my guess.

And 100% if we were Man U.

 

[him behind you]

I can't (and couldn't on Saturday) imagine what the referee could say to justify NOT giving a penalty. The only concern I have is that there might be a theme developing because this is not the first time Che has been in on goal and "been fowled without getting a penalty" so I wonder dies he simply go down too easy (and therefore getting a reputation which referee's are picking up on) or is he simply not strong enough under a challenge?

 

[UnitedBlade]

I can't (and couldn't on Saturday) imagine what the referee could say to justify NOT giving a penalty. The only concern I have is that there might be a theme developing because this is not the first time Che has been in on goal and "been fowled without getting a penalty" so I wonder dies he simply go down too easy (and therefore getting a reputation which referee's are picking up on) or is he simply not strong enough under a challenge?

Adams does have previous and I wish he would just cut it out -he'd be a better player for it.

However, in this instance, he got a considerable whack in the back which completely knocked him into the air just as he was about to put it in.

Referees have no leeway, they have to give a penalty and red card for that.

The only mitigating circumstance, as Bergen says, would be that his line of vision was blocked. We can't tell from the video if that was likely. I very much doubt it.

 

[HoodedClaw]

I thought there was going to be a riot when it wasn't given.

Also, thanks to the three lads stood in front of me for being good sports as I tried to launch myself onto the pitch from near the back of the stand and sent them flying. If I spot you again I'll buy you a beer.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Adams does have previous and I wish he would just cut it out -he'd be a better player for it.

However, in this instance, he got a considerable whack in the back which completely knocked him into the air just as he was about to put it in.

Referees have no leeway, they have to give a penalty and red card for that.

The only mitigating circumstance, as Bergen says, would be that his line of vision was blocked. We can't tell from the video if that was likely. I very much doubt it.

Spot on UnitedBlade, and if the ref missed it, what was the linesman doing ?

 

[UnitedBlade]

Spot on UnitedBlade, and if the ref missed it, what was the linesman doing ?

Checking his shorts had a nice crease in them.