Defending set pieces

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metalblade

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I have noticed we always pull back every player to defend free kicks and corners. This happened with Wilder last season, Sellés had the same tactics too and now we are back with Wilder again cramming every player into the penalty box. Why do we not leave a player on the halfway line like every team did in the past?
I don't have any coaching badges but I can't understand the advantage of all the team being in the penalty box. To me the defending team will always have a numbers advantage because the goal keeper never comes forward for corners unless it is last minute desperation, teams always leave a man on halfway in case of a break away and they also need a man to take the corner kick.
So with the defending team pulling everyone back they have an eleven to eight advantage in the penalty area. If the defending team leave a player on the halfway line the attacking team will usually have two players marking him in case of a break away, this give the defending team a ten against seven advantage in the penalty area.
8 against 11 equals a 1.375 to 1 man advantage, 7 against 10 equals a 1.428 to 1 man advantage so clearly slightly better odds of clearing the ball away from goal. The other advantage of having a player on halfway line when defending is there is a possible out ball to chase with everyone back when the ball is cleared it gives the ball away and it is just recycled back into the danger area. I don't get this tactic, am I missing something?
 

It’s when we have an attacking set piece that we should just get the other 10 men back in our half for. It would save the inevitable counter attack when we lob a shit ball into the box ever coming to anything.
 
Most set pieces these days are poor at best, we could easily man mark and have Hamer around 30 yards in from halfway and Ogbene just beyond him near half way ready for the counter/forcing players back. Mee is excellent at simple defending which sometimes seems harsh to say that but its surprising how many players can't get the basics right. He is going to help us massively as shown on Saturday at the back in building a solid base
 
You always have your best defenders back so why not leave your fastest runner upfield? Don't let the opposition dictate the play.
 
I have noticed we always pull back every player to defend free kicks and corners. This happened with Wilder last season, Sellés had the same tactics too and now we are back with Wilder again cramming every player into the penalty box. Why do we not leave a player on the halfway line like every team did in the past?
I don't have any coaching badges but I can't understand the advantage of all the team being in the penalty box. To me the defending team will always have a numbers advantage because the goal keeper never comes forward for corners unless it is last minute desperation, teams always leave a man on halfway in case of a break away and they also need a man to take the corner kick.
So with the defending team pulling everyone back they have an eleven to eight advantage in the penalty area. If the defending team leave a player on the halfway line the attacking team will usually have two players marking him in case of a break away, this give the defending team a ten against seven advantage in the penalty area.
8 against 11 equals a 1.375 to 1 man advantage, 7 against 10 equals a 1.428 to 1 man advantage so clearly slightly better odds of clearing the ball away from goal. The other advantage of having a player on halfway line when defending is there is a possible out ball to chase with everyone back when the ball is cleared it gives the ball away and it is just recycled back into the danger area. I don't get this tactic, am I missing something?
Maybe desperate not to concede?
Hopefully as we start to improve, we'll see less of this 🤞
 
I have noticed we always pull back every player to defend free kicks and corners. This happened with Wilder last season, Sellés had the same tactics too and now we are back with Wilder again cramming every player into the penalty box. Why do we not leave a player on the halfway line like every team did in the past?
I don't have any coaching badges but I can't understand the advantage of all the team being in the penalty box. To me the defending team will always have a numbers advantage because the goal keeper never comes forward for corners unless it is last minute desperation, teams always leave a man on halfway in case of a break away and they also need a man to take the corner kick.
So with the defending team pulling everyone back they have an eleven to eight advantage in the penalty area. If the defending team leave a player on the halfway line the attacking team will usually have two players marking him in case of a break away, this give the defending team a ten against seven advantage in the penalty area.
8 against 11 equals a 1.375 to 1 man advantage, 7 against 10 equals a 1.428 to 1 man advantage so clearly slightly better odds of clearing the ball away from goal. The other advantage of having a player on halfway line when defending is there is a possible out ball to chase with everyone back when the ball is cleared it gives the ball away and it is just recycled back into the danger area. I don't get this tactic, am I missing something?
I agree entirely. I have never understood why we can’t have one upfield.
 

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