Player Suggestion Charlie Hughes

[Pintor75]

Hopefully/maybe the quick sale of Anel might have been to use the money on Hughes, looking to the future with a young, strong centre half

 

[luffenhamblade]

Hopefully/maybe the quick sale of Anel might have been to use the money on Hughes, looking to the future with a young, strong centre half

Could be but wasn't his contract up next year? If so sounds more like bid was too good to be refused - not necessary a plan b though there may have been.

 

[Pintor75]

Could be but wasn't his contract up next year? If so sounds more like bid was too good to be refused - not necessary a plan b though there may have been.

Agree

 

[bertieblade]

Anel was sold as the buying club decided they wanted him as an alternative to a guy that they could not agree terms with him and his club.
They offered a v good fee on the understanding that we released him straight away

 

[Antarctic Monkey]

Anel was sold as the buying club decided they wanted him as an alternative to a guy that they could not agree terms with him and his club.
They offered a v good fee on the understanding that we released him straight away

Imagine doing a quick deal on someone you are after!

 

[Eric_Brooks]

Imagine doing a quick deal on someone you are after!

Unfortunately Betis thinks he’s the championship levy so does deals that way

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Anel was sold as the buying club decided they wanted him as an alternative to a guy that they could not agree terms with him and his club.
They offered a v good fee on the understanding that we released him straight away

Yes, they will have paid for the privilege. Must be nice if you're not restricted as to what you need to do by your budget.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

Yes, they will have paid for the privilege. Must be nice if you're not restricted as to what you need to do by your budget.

They have a budget which is why they went for Anel.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

They have a budget which is why they went for Anel.

Yes, they made a strategic decision to pay more for a lesser abled asset because immediacy was a key factor for them.

 

[Rodley]

Unfortunately Betis thinks he’s the championship levy so does deals that way

Slower than a week in jail.

 

[Rodley]

They have a budget which is why they went for Anel.

No one else has a budget you bed idiot!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

No one else has a budget you bed idiot!

Feyenoord have just sold a center back for £20 million + and have brought in nearly £80m in sales this summer.
I don't think they were worried around a few million here or there when securing Anel once their first option had turned them down and they needed to get the deal done.

That's not really comparable to us right now with weeks left in the window is it?

Charlie Hughes can probably be signed right now for £18m, are you advocating that's what we should be doing?

 

[Rodley]

Feyenoord have just sold a center back for £20 million + and have brought in nearly £80m in sales this summer.
I don't think they were worried around a few million here or there when securing Anel once their first option had turned them down and they needed to get the deal done.

That's not really comparable to us right now with weeks left in the window is it?

Charlie Hughes can probably be signed right now for £18m, are you advocating that's what we should be doing?

You’ll know more about Feyenoords budgetary approach than I. The Charlie Hughes example is so extreme, it’s a nonsense.

The dogma of “this is the only way to do things, this is the best we can do, there is no other option, there can be no criticism” I find a little bit bizarre. Ruben needs some help.

 

[FriethBlade]

Feyenoord have just sold a center back for £20 million + and have brought in nearly £80m in sales this summer.
I don't think they were worried around a few million here or there when securing Anel once their first option had turned them down and they needed to get the deal done.

That's not really comparable to us right now with weeks left in the window is it?

Charlie Hughes can probably be signed right now for £18m, are you advocating that's what we should be doing?

Sheffieldl United have just sold a CB and a CDM for well over 20m and spent sweet f.a. What a lot of us are advocating is that given we knew Anel was leaving we should have had a replacement lined up.....or God forbid actually brought one in first....now wouldn't that be a novel idea. But instead we will go into the first game of the season with a bomb scare liability and a totally untested at this level kid in our centre defence

 

[SufcBilly]

Sheffieldl United have just sold a CB and a CDM for well over 20m and spent sweet f.a. What a lot of us are advocating is that given we knew Anel was leaving we should have had a replacement lined up.....or God forbid actually brought one in first....now wouldn't that be a novel idea. But instead we will go into the first game of the season with a bomb scare liability and a totally untested at this level kid in our centre defence

How do you get a replacement in on 24 hours notice

 

[Shadota]

Sheffieldl United have just sold a CB and a CDM for well over 20m and spent sweet f.a. What a lot of us are advocating is that given we knew Anel was leaving we should have had a replacement lined up.....or God forbid actually brought one in first....now wouldn't that be a novel idea. But instead we will go into the first game of the season with a bomb scare liability and a totally untested at this level kid in our centre defence

The short term concerns of us and Feyenoord are drastically different. While we would like to have a replacement for Anel already, we aren't dealing with the risk of immediate negative consequences by not doing so. In comparison, Feyenoord needed a CB in for their European fixtures. Anel played in their Champions League qualifier on Wednesday night. The financial benefit of making it to the CL group stage is huge for a club like them.

Do we need more options at CB? Yes. And Selles said as much in his press conference yesterday. But it's not as if our entire season hinges on the match tomorrow. If it did, we'd have been far more urgent in getting someone in.

 

[Tuns25]

Though throw away points at home to a mid table team and miss out on promotion by 2 points...

 

[Weasel]

Sheffieldl United have just sold a CB and a CDM for well over 20m and spent sweet f.a. What a lot of us are advocating is that given we knew Anel was leaving we should have had a replacement lined up.....or God forbid actually brought one in first....now wouldn't that be a novel idea. But instead we will go into the first game of the season with a bomb scare liability and a totally untested at this level kid in our centre defence

Whilst im in general agreement with your post as im also of the opinion we should have brought another centre half in by now irrespective of whether we knew Anel was going or not (and we probably knew there was a very good chance he was going this summer), I can't agree that we have spent bugger all.

Whilst we have probably banked over £20m in incoming fees, we have also probably spent a couple of million on the 'development 4' (sounds like a shite boy band), and in addition the three incoming loans (Soumare, Barry and Bindon) will all have cost loan fees (probably anything up to £5m). So whilst we are maybe £15m in the black, its not a case that we haven't spent anything so far. All incoming transfers cost, whether that's permanent players or loans and established or development players.

 

[Snowflake]

Imagine doing a quick deal on someone you are after!

…but paying extra to do so !!

 

[Davalon]

Makes you wonder how some manage their own budgets. Or is it the usual easy spending other's money.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You’ll know more about Feyenoords budgetary approach than I. The Charlie Hughes example is so extreme, it’s a nonsense.

Let's not due Charlie Hughes then, let's do Doyle who is available for around the £10-12m mark, should we just press ahead there and match his city wages so we have him in for.....checks notes......Bristol City at home and a league cup match.

The dogma of “this is the only way to do things, this is the best we can do, there is no other option, there can be no criticism” I find a little bit bizarre. Ruben needs some help.

Well that's nonsense isn't it? My post was clear, you can do things differently but it costs more money to do things quickly seems logical rather than dogma.

 

[SufcBilly]

Makes you wonder how some manage their own budgets. Or is it the usual easy spending other's money.

Bit nosey of you to ask why I spend all my money on early 20’s men from hull

 

[Aston max]

It actually amazes me the number of blades who want us to go down the "boom and bust scenario " sufc are a business at the end of the day and have to live within their "means" .
We've got owners who have been in charge less than 9 months, give them a chance.
Selles seems to have his head on right, so I'll give him a chance to get it right .
All we've seen is 4 friendlies not what's going on day to day in training personally I didn't really see a lot wrong with RND or sasunakis at centre half.

 

[NateDogg]

It actually amazes me the number of blades who want us to go down the "boom and bust scenario " sufc are a business at the end of the day and have to live within their "means" .
We've got owners who have been in charge less than 9 months, give them a chance.
Selles seems to have his head on right, so I'll give him a chance to get it right .
All we've seen is 4 friendlies not what's going on day to day in training personally I didn't really see a lot wrong with RND or sasunakis at centre hahalf.

Because some people have spent far too long playing football manager and Fifa or reading the bollocks people put on social media and aren't living in the real world.

 

[Blademan89]

It actually amazes me the number of blades who want us to go down the "boom and bust scenario " sufc are a business at the end of the day and have to live within their "means" .
We've got owners who have been in charge less than 9 months, give them a chance.
Selles seems to have his head on right, so I'll give him a chance to get it right .
All we've seen is 4 friendlies not what's going on day to day in training personally I didn't really see a lot wrong with RND or sasunakis at centre half.

Which one of our new owners are you then?

In all seriousness that is a mental take on things (regarding Dovsy & RND) and im glad you're not involved in running of our club.

 

[Blade58]

Whilst im in general agreement with your post as im also of the opinion we should have brought another centre half in by now irrespective of whether we knew Anel was going or not (and we probably knew there was a very good chance he was going this summer), I can't agree that we have spent bugger all.

Whilst we have probably banked over £20m in incoming fees, we have also probably spent a couple of million on the 'development 4' (sounds like a shite boy band), and in addition the three incoming loans (Soumare, Barry and Bindon) will all have cost loan fees (probably anything up to £5m). So whilst we are maybe £15m in the black, its not a case that we haven't spent anything so far. All incoming transfers cost, whether that's permanent players or loans and established or development players.

Wasn’t there some comment when the 4 development players came in that they didn’t impact the transfer plans for the first team squad and that one of the directors had personally funded them?

Or is that complete and utter bollox? Can’t remember the exact comments?

 

[Rodley]

Let's not due Charlie Hughes then, let's do Doyle who is available for around the £10-12m mark, should we just press ahead there and match his city wages so we have him in for.....checks notes......Bristol City at home and a league cup match.


Well that's nonsense isn't it? My post was clear, you can do things differently but it costs more money to do things quickly seems logical rather than dogma.

I’m not sure centre half options, if that’s the example you want to use, are limited to Doyle or Hughes.

It’s not a reasonable position that the only reason other clubs have done more business, or done deals quicker is through overpaying. There’s no other way to be more efficient, expedite matters or simply be better? That doesn’t feel logical at all. Compared to the vast majority of clubs, we have a sizeable budget due to parachute payments.

 

[Aston max]

Which one of our new owners are you then?

In all seriousness that is a mental take on things (regarding Dovsy & RND) and im glad you're not involved in running of our club.

I played at centre half to a fairly good level so I think I can comment !!
Are they perfect "no" but just remember RND is coming off a horrendous 2/3 years of injuries . He's still only 26 from what I saw in the friendlies his positional play needed work ,but he's a left back who because of the 3 at the back we played under wilder has had to relearn his trade
If I'm allowed to ask are you one of the fans who when he was just starting out raved about his future ?
Sasunakis is still a young lad and I believe isn't even in the first team squad numbers .
Do we need a centre half "absolutely " but Sorry I'm one of those who believes we shouldn't be throwing the kitchen sink at it , do you not think we haven't got bids out there ??

 

[Uganda Blade]

Bit nosey of you to ask why I spend all my money on early 20’s men from hull

Particularly when you can get men over 50 on here much cheaper and more local.

 

[FriethBlade]

Whilst im in general agreement with your post as im also of the opinion we should have brought another centre half in by now irrespective of whether we knew Anel was going or not (and we probably knew there was a very good chance he was going this summer), I can't agree that we have spent bugger all.

Whilst we have probably banked over £20m in incoming fees, we have also probably spent a couple of million on the 'development 4' (sounds like a shite boy band), and in addition the three incoming loans (Soumare, Barry and Bindon) will all have cost loan fees (probably anything up to £5m). So whilst we are maybe £15m in the black, its not a case that we haven't spent anything so far. All incoming transfers cost, whether that's permanent players or loans and established or development players.

Net that off against everything we have saved sending all the loan players back, getting Brewster, Anel, Souza, Grbic' et als wages off the wage bill etc.

All I'm saying is any of us who thought the new owners were going to mean a fresh approach are so far being proved wrong. There is still time for this to change but so far its no different to the previous owner.