Can someone explain the offside rule please?

[Bergen Blade]

The ball bounces off McBurnie here. Souza comes back from an offside position and is also the one who touches it back to McBurnie. Unlucky.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

On the BBC report it says that Souza was blocking Leno's line of view.

BBC had no idea either. They’re just making a guess to get the report posted in time.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

It reminded me of the goal we conceded that was disallowed because it was classed as still in the first phase of play. 'The defender had a chance to clear and messed up, therefore 2nd phase should have started' was the comment at the time.
Similar to today, their defender didn't clear properly so second phase should have started imo.
Still, with that logic, the goal against us should have stood too!
Can't we just bin off VAR now please?!!

 

[PotterLog]

So if you're in front of the ball in an offside position, and get back onside while the ball goes backwards, then the ball goes forwards while you're on side and then you get the ball, you're called offside for the original offence even though you didn't touch it while you were in the original off side position?

You shouldn’t be but it sounds like that would very much depend on the circumstances.

I haven’t seen this incident by the way. I was just pointing out you can be offside from a backwards pass

 

[Champagneblade]

If the ball is played backwards you can`t be offside a la a corner

He wasn’t offside from a corner.

He was offside from Robbo’s ball back towards the box from the initial corner.

That’s the difference.

 

[Tarqs]

If the ball is played backwards you can`t be offside a la a corner

wrong

 

[b1ade4life]

Someone was looking for an excuse to wipe out the goal?
A Premier League star will be able to explain it all to us tonight on MoD

Stop being so sensible, the whole thing is cunting corrupt

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

The ball bounces off McBurnie here. Souza comes back from an offside position and is also the one who touches it back to McBurnie. Unlucky.

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You got a screen capture of him touching the ball back now Bergen?

 

[originaltrueblade]

BBC had no idea either. They’re just making a guess to get the report posted in time.

BBC don’t know what their talking about

 

[Champagneblade]

The ball bounces off McBurnie here. Souza comes back from an offside position and is also the one who touches it back to McBurnie. Unlucky.

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Though how dopey is Anel there? Stood a yard offside.

 

[Bergen Blade]

You got a screen capture of him touching the ball back now Bergen?

I've tried a few times, but this is the best I've got.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

The ball bounces off McBurnie here. Souza comes back from an offside position and is also the one who touches it back to McBurnie. Unlucky.

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The rule needs updating big time I think.
It was brought in and is still there to stop players 'seeking to gain an advantage' or 'boglining' as we used to call it.
Hardly boglining is it when you're running away from goal!
This is why it infuriates me when marginal offsides rule out goals when you can clearly see attackers looking along the line to try and STAY onside, not gain an advantage.
Surely if they're NOT trying to gain an advantage, and a toe is just beyond the last defender, no offence has been committed?!!

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

I've tried a few times, but this is the best I've got.

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If that’s the best we’re not promoting you to VAR duty mate

 

[Bergen Blade]

If that’s the best we’re not promoting you to VAR duty mate

When I try to do a screenshot it just becomes black. So have to take a photo of the screen with my mobile. This is a bit better

 

[andy m]

He wasn’t offside from a corner.

He was offside from Robbo’s ball back towards the box from the initial corner.

That’s the difference.

I thought he was offside from McBurnies initial shot.

 

[Harry's Game]

I was furious at the time but having seen the replay he does get involved and he is offside

 

[Champagneblade]

I thought he was offside from McBurnies initial shot.

I think he was. But I also thought he was offside from the centre too. Not seen the still on it though. That’s what they pointed to on the VAR replay that I saw.

 

[munksyb]

Didn’t the defender play the ball to start a new phase ????

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

I wish I had a pound for every time the offside rule has been explained on this forum. I think some of our supporters have got the attention span of a goldfish. Souza was running back from an offside position (and interfering with play) when he touched it to McB. Correct decision, unfortunately.

 

[Guesty]

I wish I had a pound for every time the offside rule has been explained on this forum. I think some of our supporters have got the attention span of a goldfish. Souza was running back from an offside position (and interfering with play) when he touched it to McB. Correct decision, unfortunately.

Thank goodness this one didn't involve the goalkeeper being further forward, that properly fries brains on here, makes people completely lose their heads.

 

[1973Blade]

The decision that really annoyed me was the lengthy delay after the third goal for 'violent conduct '. Just have a quick check and if it isnt conclusive move on. A major reason for the 14 minutes added on.

 

[Foxy]

The decision that really annoyed me was the lengthy delay after the third goal for 'violent conduct '. Just have a quick check and if it isnt conclusive move on. A major reason for the 14 minutes added on.

Yet they seemingly couldn't be arsed to check the actual hands round the neck on Hamer.

 

[Bladesman]

Yet they seemingly couldn't be arsed to check the actual hands round the neck on Hamer.

What about the possible last man foul on Diaz in the first half when he got pulled to the ground. Ref gave the foul not so much as a booking.

 

[Foxy]

What about the possible last man foul on Diaz in the first half when he got pulled to the ground. Ref gave the foul not so much as a booking.

I wasn't building an extensive list, I'd be here all night

 

[Panini]

The ball bounces off McBurnie here. Souza comes back from an offside position and is also the one who touches it back to McBurnie. Unlucky.

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The frustration for me is that McBurnie could do very little about Bassey smashing the ball at him, but trying to control it - as anyone obviously would - means his action is deliberate and therefore not a deflection, which turn makes Souza active.

A horrible, messy section of the LotG.

 

[Proper Blade]

Like much of football now, the offside rule is a fucking mess. Nobody had any idea there could possibly have been an offside there. Yet the jobsworth little cretins in Stockley Park desperately look for ways to get involved every 5 minutes. Refereeing the game through a computer. Not one player had any inkling that was offside. There was no advantage in Souza being offside. It is all just complete and utter nonsense.

 

[SE1Blade]

The ball bounces off McBurnie here. Souza comes back from an offside position and is also the one who touches it back to McBurnie. Unlucky.

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He doesn’t look offside in that photo. He’s level.

 

[blade67]

Maybe…maybe not.
We have no idea if that were the case. They all whinge about it as well.

We can’t blame VAR for the fact we are dire.
Perhaps if we could keep the ball a bit better the players might not be hanging out their arse after an hour

Unfortunately this is right.

Refs make errors, both on the pitch and VAR.

When you play like we do, you are going to be on the wrong end of lots of decisions.

 

[ATL Recs]

From what I saw, Souza was in an offside position, not interfering with play, then got back onside as the ball was played backwards. Then the ball goes forward with Souza on side and comes back to McB to score.
What have I missed here please?

Isn’t he interfering (influencing)
with it as he runs back to an onside position ?

 

[Blade-on-Tyne]

Isn’t he interfering (influencing)
with it as he runs back to an onside position ?

“if he’s not interfering with play, he shouldn’t be on the pitch” - Brian Clough.

He knew a thing or two did old Cloughie.