CarlingBlade
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This lad has been named by Wilder as a potential centre half to break through from the academy, anyone got any info on him?
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The same initials as Conor Sammon indeed.He's got the initials CS on his tracky top
I remember as my son was involved. They won a tournament at pigsborough. They travelled to the South Africa World Cup ...........Was making headlines in the Star when he was about 12 of captain of the team that travelled into Europe for some competition. Well rated CB.
Will be a 2nd year scholar next season.
Only down side is he is half Scottish..
The same initials as Conor Sammon indeed.
larkymasher will be able to add to this but personally I'd give him and Ramsdale the go ahead at Millwall in a much changed and freshened side. It's clear we're lacking in goal and defence and George Long continuing any further as a first team starter this season is a complete no go. A steady introduction away from the abusive twats behind the goal at the Lane might just do them and us the world of good. They're both incredibly highly rated. Certainly worth a try for me, doesn't get too much worse than that tonight.
..................Ramsdale
Brayford Semple O'Connell Hussey
................Coutts Fleck
...Duffy......Whiteman.......Freeman
...................McNulty
Dreadful suggestion!larkymasher will be able to add to this but personally I'd give him and Ramsdale the go ahead at Millwall in a much changed and freshened side. It's clear we're lacking in goal and defence and George Long continuing any further as a first team starter this season is a complete no go. A steady introduction away from the abusive twats behind the goal at the Lane might just do them and us the world of good. They're both incredibly highly rated. Certainly worth a try for me, doesn't get too much worse than that tonight.
..................Ramsdale
Brayford Semple O'Connell Hussey
................Coutts Fleck
...Duffy......Whiteman.......Freeman
...................McNulty
Oh dear it's not this fruitcake again is it? Yes, been to the Lane tonight and no, not a watcher of the academy, hence tagging someone who is. And I know he's one that speaks highly of those two.Two simple questions Barmey
1) Have you ever seen Semple and Ramsdale play?
2) Were you at The Lane tonight?
Oh Barney it was all going so well, i could have made a case for Semple and Ramsdale being involved in the match day 18 at Millwall and then you go and stick Freeman at left midfield. Any sense in your question has just gone pal.....larkymasher will be able to add to this but personally I'd give him and Ramsdale the go ahead at Millwall in a much changed and freshened side. It's clear we're lacking in goal and defence and George Long continuing any further as a first team starter this season is a complete no go. A steady introduction away from the abusive twats behind the goal at the Lane might just do them and us the world of good. They're both incredibly highly rated. Certainly worth a try for me, doesn't get too much worse than that tonight.
..................Ramsdale
Brayford Semple O'Connell Hussey
................Coutts Fleck
...Duffy......Whiteman.......Freeman
...................McNulty
And any potential player with a reputation in tact will avoid risking coming to the Toxic Club we have suddenly becomeWith the atmosphere surrounding the club at the minute, I'd be extremely wary of playing any youngsters, in risk of irreparably damaging their confidence.
And any potential player with a reputation in tact will avoid risking coming to the Toxic Club we have suddenly become
I understand your point but Semple and Ramsdale have played every game since the age of 8 under pressure to progress through each age group of the academy.Exactly.....playing in front of a few friends and family one minute.....the next being expected to shout and organise a team of experienced pro's in front of thousands of angry, loud, inpatient united fans.
No....we don't need to be sticking kids in in those circumstances.
Call Clough all you like......he knew when to play kids, and knew how to bring them in.
Take your point sir, and I don't doubt that they will have ability.
But, and I'm afraid there is a but, if these experienced pro players are struggling with it, struggling with the pressure of playing for this club, then how do we expect kids to?
I know they are under a little pressure to make it through every year, but there's also very little riding on results. It's all about their performance and their targets. Sadly, most get nowhere near the first team and the reality check is that these are players who believe they can do it, but are just there to accommodate the one or two that have a chance.
Simple and Ramsdale may well have sailed through academy football unchallenged as the best we have at their age group. That doesn't mean they are good enough to compete as a pro, and being exposed to a hostile environment is simply never experienced.[/QUOT
Ramsdale has played for England u18s and Semple pushing for Scotland u19s and captain of our U23s at 17 years old. That tells us that they are not just the best we have but are competing with high caliber older players from the rest of the country. These two can't do more than they are doing.
I dont know if they are going to make it as Pro's or not either but until these lads are exposed to the next level we will never know...... I am not saying chuck them in, i am saying they should be exposed to the next level off the bench or in EFL Trophy games or League Cup games. If they need more time then great but until they are exposed, none of us can make any comment whether they are good enough or not. There are others in Charlesworth, Gilmoor and Hallam who
SUFC Under 21s beat Charlton 21s last season in a playoff semi final at the Valley in May. 4 of the Charlton team have gone on to play for the first team this season. None of the sufc team have been given the same chance. Both clubs have struggled pre season, both have had terrible starts to the league and cups, both have huge expectations from their home support but we have this mentality that you need to be experienced to handle the pressure. I disagree with that. If you are good enough you will handle the pressure at 17, 21, 35 years old.
Please remember Grizzly, it has been CW blowing Ramsdale and Semple trumphet in preseason.
I am a massive fan of these two as i was Maguire, Walker, Reed, Lowton, Slew etc. Some have gone on to great things some have not. Thats football and thats opinions.
Ramsdale have played every game since the age of 8 under pressure to progress through each age group of the academy.
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