Outgoing? Burrows

[KMC-1889]

Weird that RND had been frozen out if we are open to selling Burrows. Looked absolutely finished last time he played for us as a caveat, but went on to have an ok season at championship level so as back up to McCallum it wouldn’t be the worst. Would allow us to distribute the funds to other areas of the team as well.

I’m guessing they see McGinchley as already at the level of RND so he’s surplus to requirements.

 

[NordicHarry]

No skin off my back if he goes, McCallum first choice, fee hopefully paves way for Souttar or another CB. And what from I keep hearing about McGlinchey definitely not far away from first team.

We need to make sacrifices to create a better squad and this is one of them.

 

[FriethBlade]

No skin off my back if he goes, McCallum first choice, fee hopefully paves way for Souttar or another CB. And what from I keep hearing about McGlinchey definitely not far away from first team.

We need to make sacrifices to create a better squad and this is one of them.

But if McAllum gets injured we are then left with a totally unproven kid as first choice left back who would be targeted by every opposition team. Im for either RND or Burrows going but not both unless Wilder has another "Doherty like" player on his radar.

 

[Bladesman]

Despite a poor season last season I’d still like us to make a profit on Burrows if he is sold.

Especially if it’s West Ham buying.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I really don't get our fans sometimes, he's scored 5 goals in his each of his last two seasons and got 4 assists last season not too shabby for a left back and we are not bothered if we sell him.
So if we did sell him we have lost Brook's and Burrow's goals and assists from last season from a side that didn't exactly set the goals scored and chances created world alight and replaced them with ?
A young Kid on loan.

 

[Drachblade]

But if McAllum gets injured we are then left with a totally unproven kid as first choice left back who would be targeted by every opposition team. Im for either RND or Burrows going but not both unless Wilder has another "Doherty like" player on his radar.

Watched him in the friendlies that harry mcglinchey and honestly he looks raw but I still think he'd be good backup to Mccallum, He's tall, good work rate, quick and better at defending than Burrows despite being younger so I'd be happy to sell Burrows and RND

 

[Frank the tank]

Watched him in the friendlies that harry mcglinchey and honestly he looks raw but I still think he'd be good backup to Mccallum, He's tall, good work rate, quick and better at defending than Burrows despite being younger so I'd be happy to sell Burrows and RND

I agree any ( slim )chance of success we have for nest season is that three youngsters develop into squad players how brooks ,seriki ,peck and arblasters have I reckon baptiste and mcglinchey could do that
Don't think wilder will like but we shall see

 

[Shawy24]

I really don't get our fans sometimes, he's scored 5 goals in his each of his last two seasons and got 4 assists last season not too shabby for a left back and we are not bothered if we sell him.
So if we did sell him we have lost Brook's and Burrow's goals and assists from last season from a side that didn't exactly set the goals scored and chances created world alight and replaced them with ?
A young Kid on loan.

I see where you’re coming from. I’d prefer to keep him as he’s always capable of a few goals a season. Got a good shot on him. However I can see some may say that Wilder can rely on McAlllum for the same output and Burrows has more transfer value to fund a desperately needed Centre Half. Expect more teeming and ladling due to lack of funds.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I see where you’re coming from. I’d prefer to keep him as he’s always capable of a few goals a season. Got a good shot on him. However I can see some may say that Wilder can rely on McAlllum for the same output and Burrows has more transfer value to fund a desperately needed Centre Half. Expect more teeming and ladling due to lack of funds.

I get what you are saying and while McAllum is probably a better defender I am not so sure he's has good as Burrows going forward, also he's not guaranteed to even be the same player after his injury. Don't forget he struggled when he first came here and was written off by a few on here (i know that doesn't mean much). It was bad enough last season watching us pass backwards and sideways playing walking football I want too be entertained and if Burrows does go we will have lost two of our more attacking players which makes the prospect of not playing walking football even less likely.
Excellent use of Teeming and Ladling by the way.

 

[SE1Blade]

I think there’s a good chance we’ll see McCallum and Burrows on the pitch at the same time at certain points this season.

 

[Wright1889]

I think there’s a good chance we’ll see McCallum and Burrows on the pitch at the same time at certain points this season.

When we play West Ham?

 

[Weasel]

I think there’s a good chance we’ll see McCallum and Burrows on the pitch at the same time at certain points this season.

I think Burrows in front of McCallum could work very well. Burrows has a nice cross on him, likes to get forward and is a bit suspect defensively. But the latter wouldnt be such an issue if he had a defender behind him. I remember the grunters had something similar with Phil King and Nigel Worthington back in the early 90s. I despise the twats as much as the next man, but credit where its due, those two were very dangerous on their left hand side. McCallum and Burrows could do something similar for United. Would be helpful if we also signed an out and out left winger though also (Matondo?)

 

[Sithblade]

I think there’s a good chance we’ll see McCallum and Burrows on the pitch at the same time at certain points this season.

Sell Gus and play Burrows more advanced.

 

[54yrblade]

I don’t get the souttar obsession.

It's easier to scout & sign from a list of current phone numbers in our recruiting team's phone than it is to find younger, quicker, uninjured talent

 

[Bell4]

I really don't get our fans sometimes, he's scored 5 goals in his each of his last two seasons and got 4 assists last season not too shabby for a left back and we are not bothered if we sell him.
So if we did sell him we have lost Brook's and Burrow's goals and assists from last season from a side that didn't exactly set the goals scored and chances created world alight and replaced them with ?
A young Kid on loan.

Good point very well made

 

[FTPE]

I think there’s a good chance we’ll see McCallum and Burrows on the pitch at the same time at certain points this season.

Like when we play West Ham?

 

[Shawy24]

I think Burrows in front of McCallum could work very well. Burrows has a nice cross on him, likes to get forward and is a bit suspect defensively. But the latter wouldnt be such an issue if he had a defender behind him. I remember the grunters had something similar with Phil King and Nigel Worthington back in the early 90s. I despise the twats as much as the next man, but credit where its due, those two were very dangerous on their left hand side. McCallum and Burrows could do something similar for United. Would be helpful if we also signed an out and out left winger though also (Matondo?)

Far too forward thinking for Wary Wilder. IMHO he’s lost the spark he had. No tactical innovations, same owd same owd. 4231 and my way or the highway.

You know full well that despite the evidence of their complete ineffectiveness mounting up, he will start with Cannon up front, Hamer on the left and Rothwell partnering Jairo notwithstanding neither of them have the pace for a chase. He will continue to play them to show us amateur champ manager fans that he’s right and we’re wrong. It’s about him.

The fans knew Lundstram was tossing it off. No he played him no matter what. Brewster played wherever he could squeeze him in because he wouldn’t admit he wasn’t a striker. Same with Cannon. He’s bombed Brookes out so he’s gone. Duffy was another he fell out with to the detriment of the team. Fell out with Wes and what the hell was he doing keeping Robinson in his side at the expense of Holden? Ah yes, Robbo could feight.

Worst thing was winning Manager of the year. It went to his head. He’s completely changed. I just hope he’s got a plan this season other than to sign over the hill “experienced pros.

Rant over.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Duffy was another he fell out with to the detriment of the team. .

The team that finished 9th in the Premier League?

 

[FriethBlade]

I think Burrows in front of McCallum could work very well. Burrows has a nice cross on him, likes to get forward and is a bit suspect defensively. But the latter wouldnt be such an issue if he had a defender behind him. I remember the grunters had something similar with Phil King and Nigel Worthington back in the early 90s. I despise the twats as much as the next man, but credit where its due, those two were very dangerous on their left hand side. McCallum and Burrows could do something similar for United. Would be helpful if we also signed an out and out left winger though also (Matondo?)

I wonder if we might see the same on the right on occasions with Seriki playing in front of Doherty. Seriki has always looked good overlapping and its not impossible that right midfield or right wingback could be his best position....thats of course assuming hes not going to follow Andre out the door!

 

[calcalcal]

I wonder if we might see the same on the right on occasions with Seriki playing in front of Doherty. Seriki has always looked good overlapping and its not impossible that right midfield or right wingback could be his best position....thats of course assuming hes not going to follow Andre out the door!

I think we'd be better in a 3421 formation tbh
Back 3
Seriki and sam/burrows as wing backs
Your 2 holding guys say jairo and peck
Then gus and coh in front of them with more freedom to attack
And then your striker

 

[Valley Blade]

I think Burrows in front of McCallum could work very well. Burrows has a nice cross on him, likes to get forward and is a bit suspect defensively. But the latter wouldnt be such an issue if he had a defender behind him. I remember the grunters had something similar with Phil King and Nigel Worthington back in the early 90s. I despise the twats as much as the next man, but credit where its due, those two were very dangerous on their left hand side. McCallum and Burrows could do something similar for United. Would be helpful if we also signed an out and out left winger though also (Matondo?)

Completely different skills are required, playing left wing,in a midfield four. You are often facing the wrong way, when receiving the ball to feet. When to protect it, when to turn, when to support the attack, when to stay back. All difficult skills and not just easy to adapt to. It also requires more running as you are a midfielder in essence, not just an attacking left back. Burrows was hopeless when played in central midfield. I don't feel he has the awareness, stamina or discipline to play further forward.

 

[Uganda Blade]

I think we'd be better in a 3421 formation tbh
Back 3
Seriki and sam/burrows as wing backs
Your 2 holding guys say jairo and peck
Then gus and coh in front of them with more freedom to attack
And then your striker

That could work if the back three were Tanganga - Souttar - Baptiste. But we'd be stuffed if one or more were injured or suspended.
Alas, I suspect our tactical plan doesn't extend beyond 4-2-3-1.

 

[Slug]

I really don't get our fans sometimes, he's scored 5 goals in his each of his last two seasons and got 4 assists last season not too shabby for a left back and we are not bothered if we sell him.
So if we did sell him we have lost Brook's and Burrow's goals and assists from last season from a side that didn't exactly set the goals scored and chances created world alight and replaced them with ?
A young Kid on loan.

I do get your point and i am concerned about where the chance creation and goals are going to come from (the concern will be ten fold if Gus goes).

But to counteract the stats from Burrows, I would say he cost us probably double the amount of his G/A output with his total lack of any defensive nous. He got targeted every single game for the last 3 months of the season.
He doesn't even have the basic full back attribute of knowing how to jockey a winger or stop a cross. He is a total liability defensively.

 

[ben1987]

For me part of the reason why burrows had a dodgy season last season was down to Hamer not being as effective.

We all know that Hamer leaves us vulnerable down the left when he plays there but in his first season out there when he won POTS he was so much of a threat going the other way teams didn’t really counter down that side as much because they were shit scared of leaving him unmarked. They also often tried to double up on him allowing burrows on the overlap or underlap.

Burrows got no support from Gus defensively last season and no where near as much licence to roam forwards because Gus was no where near as consistent.

McCallum starts as first choice going into the new season but in terms of technical ability Burrows is the better player. Get a good left winger in or get POTS Gus back and we’d go along way to getting the best Burrows back.

He did also seem to take the Wembley defeat and Sells / fitness disaster quite badly too

 

[Upton_Blade]

The team that finished 9th in the Premier League?

Do you genuinely think Duffy wouldn't have contributed that season?

After how great he was the season before when we were promoted .

 

[Shawy24]

The team that finished 9th in the Premier League?

Yes. To the detriment of the team. There was no need. It was the usual from Wilder. Perceived challenge to his authority. What might we have done with Duffy? Who knows. Maybe 2 places better. Maybe not. You’re missing the point about his style of “management”.

 

[Paisley Blade]

Do you genuinely think Duffy wouldn't have contributed that season?

After how great he was the season before when we were promoted .

I loved Duffy. However, I remember watching pre season training videos where Bash was crucifying all comers on the runs, and Duff was trailing in a very distant last.
That said, inside and out ..

 

[ckpe147]

For me part of the reason why burrows had a dodgy season last season was down to Hamer not being as effective.

We all know that Hamer leaves us vulnerable down the left when he plays there but in his first season out there when he won POTS he was so much of a threat going the other way teams didn’t really counter down that side as much because they were shit scared of leaving him unmarked. They also often tried to double up on him allowing burrows on the overlap or underlap.

Burrows got no support from Gus defensively last season and no where near as much licence to roam forwards because Gus was no where near as consistent.

McCallum starts as first choice going into the new season but in terms of technical ability Burrows is the better player. Get a good left winger in or get POTS Gus back and we’d go along way to getting the best Burrows back.

He did also seem to take the Wembley defeat and Sells / fitness disaster quite badly too

Its quite straightforward re Burrows. He was good for the majority of the first season, as we played with him allowed to push forward, and Gilchrist remained to make a back 3. Also had Ahmedhodzic who played on the left side of the centre backs.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Do you genuinely think Duffy wouldn't have contributed that season?

After how great he was the season before when we were promoted .

Look at how Duffy went afterwards and ourselves. I loved Duffy but it was a move that while potentially unpopular worked out very well for us.


No chance he would cut it in the premier league considering we, rightly, went to a flat 3 in midfield. Where would you put him?!

I'd argue it was THE perfect time to get rid. Something that doesn't happen often

 

[steve26272]

Poor mans TAA, he also seems a confidence player

If we get a decent offer and have a replacement in mind I wouldn’t object to him going

Technically better than Sam Mac, but Mac’s the better choice, weird