Brewster

[Balham]

Go on then, let's hear this.

Attacking:
Brewster: 2 goals vs 2.4 xG (no penalties), 2 assists
Moore: 5 goals vs 7.3 xG; 4 non-penalty goals vs 4.9 npxG. 1 in 3 penalties scored. 0 assists

Possession (stats per 90 mins):
Brewster: 23.4 passes attempted, 17.9 successful (75.7%)
Moore: 18.4 passes attempted, 11.6 successful (63.0%)

Brewster: 33.8 touches; 1.39 take-ons, 40% success
Moore: 29.0 touches; 1.20 take-ons; 50% success

Brewster: 3.24 recoveries
Moore: 2.41 recoveries

Brewster: 3.88 aerial duels, 34.9% success
Moore: 7.89 aerial duels, 59.5% success

Defensive (stats per 90 mins)
Brewster: 1.1 tackles, 0.56 won. 1.11 challenges, 33.3% success. 1.11 blocks, 0.46 interceptions
Moore: 0.38 tackles, 0.30 won. 0.36 challenges, 16.7% success. 0.54 blocks, 0.18 interceptions

So...
Brewster is a better finisher, provides more, is more involved both in an out of possession. The only stats which Moore is better on are take ons and aerials.

I'll put 50p on your response being to ignore the stats and state that it's your subjective opinion.

 

[mattbianco1]

Attacking:
Brewster: 2 goals vs 2.4 xG (no penalties), 2 assists
Moore: 5 goals vs 7.3 xG; 4 non-penalty goals vs 4.9 npxG. 1 in 3 penalties scored. 0 assists

Possession (stats per 90 mins):
Brewster: 23.4 passes attempted, 17.9 successful (75.7%)
Moore: 18.4 passes attempted, 11.6 successful (63.0%)

Brewster: 33.8 touches; 1.39 take-ons, 40% success
Moore: 29.0 touches; 1.20 take-ons; 50% success

Brewster: 3.24 recoveries
Moore: 2.41 recoveries

Brewster: 3.88 aerial duels, 34.9% success
Moore: 7.89 aerial duels, 59.5% success

Defensive (stats per 90 mins)
Brewster: 1.1 tackles, 0.56 won. 1.11 challenges, 33.3% success. 1.11 blocks, 0.46 interceptions
Moore: 0.38 tackles, 0.30 won. 0.36 challenges, 16.7% success. 0.54 blocks, 0.18 interceptions

So...
Brewster is a better finisher, provides more, is more involved both in an out of possession. The only stats which Moore is better on are take ons and aerials.

I'll put 50p on your response being to ignore the stats and state that it's your subjective opinion.

It's also worth noting that Brewster has mostly been deployed out of his natural position too. He's either on the wing or behind the striker.

I think if he had played the number of minutes he has this season, purely as a CF, he'd be on much more than 2 goals

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Attacking:
Brewster: 2 goals vs 2.4 xG (no penalties), 2 assists
Moore: 5 goals vs 7.3 xG; 4 non-penalty goals vs 4.9 npxG. 1 in 3 penalties scored. 0 assists

Possession (stats per 90 mins):
Brewster: 23.4 passes attempted, 17.9 successful (75.7%)
Moore: 18.4 passes attempted, 11.6 successful (63.0%)

Brewster: 33.8 touches; 1.39 take-ons, 40% success
Moore: 29.0 touches; 1.20 take-ons; 50% success

Brewster: 3.24 recoveries
Moore: 2.41 recoveries

Brewster: 3.88 aerial duels, 34.9% success
Moore: 7.89 aerial duels, 59.5% success

Defensive (stats per 90 mins)
Brewster: 1.1 tackles, 0.56 won. 1.11 challenges, 33.3% success. 1.11 blocks, 0.46 interceptions
Moore: 0.38 tackles, 0.30 won. 0.36 challenges, 16.7% success. 0.54 blocks, 0.18 interceptions

So...
Brewster is a better finisher, provides more, is more involved both in an out of possession. The only stats which Moore is better on are take ons and aerials.

I'll put 50p on your response being to ignore the stats and state that it's your subjective opinion.

So your opinion of Brewster being better than Moore is based on seven months of the current season?

Now that is laughable.

 

[KOPPO]

hes had no luck ive always backed special brew and i believe he will come good and score for fun for the blades id give him a new deal ,chow..utb..

 

[bertieblade]

So your opinion of Brewster being better than Moore is based on seven months of the current season?

Now that is laughable.

Seems Balham has won his 50p.

Just accept that people are entitled to different opinions and no amount of “stats” are going to convince people to change their mind.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Balham

You seem to know your figures anyway.

Can you do the stats on Moore v Brewster for International goals, Premier League goals, Championship goals and League One goals?

 

[mattbianco1]

Because Moore, Campbell, Rak-Sakyi, Brereton Diaz and Cannon are all better than him.

So your opinion of Brewster being better than Moore is based on seven months of the current season?

Now that is laughable.

You've formed an opinion that Cannon is better based on 3 games and 0 goals

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Seems Balham has won his 50p.

Just accept that people are entitled to different opinions and no amount of “stats” are going to convince people to change their mind.

Anybody who thinks Rhian Brewster is better than Kieffer Moore has lost the plot.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

You've formed an opinion that Cannon is better based on 3 games and 0 goals

No I haven't.

Why do you keep putting words in my mouth?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Brewsters crap and should be released. End of discussion, shouldn’t even be a debate whether he gets a new contract or not.
He’s been the worst signing in our history.

No he hasn't.

 

[AnstonBlade1]

No he hasn't.

100% mostly costly, kid could retire on what he’s earnt while being here scoring his 9 goals or whatever it is in 5 year

 

[Bladesman]

Even his stats this season are skewed. It shows that he's played 25 games. But he's only played 961 minutes. That's just over 10 full games.

It's damn near impossible to get any scoring rhythm when the game time is so inconsistent.

Wilder pissed me off though twice. He dropped him the following game after both his goals - why? Strikers thrive off confidence.

Fitness reasons, not sure Brewster is in a place where he can start every match. I do think he has more of an impact as a sub to be honest.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I'll dispute worst signing, because over the years we've signed some right shit! What I will give you is costly! Maybe not his fault that, but it's quite evident his signing hasn't worked. I cannot for the life of me see why we're offering him another contract! Bottom line is Wilder signed him and he's still trying to justify doing so

Please can you explain how Brewster maybe at fault for the cost ?

 

[mattbianco1]

Can you do the stats on Moore v Brewster for International goals, Premier League goals, Championship goals and League One goals?

I can, I can

Seems only fair to judge them at the age of 24-25 (Brewster's current age).

Moore

• Premier League Games = 0
• Championship Games = 31 (4 goals)
• League 1 Games = 30 (3 goals)
• League 2 Games = 0
• National League Games = 37 (12)
• International Career
  • England C (1 game, 0 goals)

Brewster

• Premier League Games = 40
• Championship Games = 75 (16 goals)
• League 1 Games = 0
• League 2 Games = 0
• National League Games = 0
• International Career
  • England u16 (4 games, 4 goals)
  • England u17 (23 games, 20 goals)
  • England u18 (1 game, 0 goals)
  • England u21 (18 games, 3 goals)

 

[Broomhall Blade]

100% mostly costly, kid could retire on what he’s earnt while being here scoring his 9 goals or whatever it is in 5 year

You have changed it now to most costly.
What has the fact he maybe could retire on what he's earned in 5 years got to do with anything, Sheffield United agreed to pay him a salary.
Unfortunately there is a risk attached with this especially in professional sport that they might get injured are you suggesting Brewster should have not been paid while he was injured ?
It seems there might be a little jealousy going on here.

 

[TJ blade]

Please can you explain how Brewster maybe at fault for the cost ?

I said maybe not his fault, or to simplify not is fault!

 

[mattbianco1]

No I haven't.

Why do you keep putting words in my mouth?

How am I putting words in your mouth. You literally said Cannon started because he's better than Brewster

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Anybody who thinks Rhian Brewster is better than Kieffer Moore has lost the plot.

Rhian Brewster with a leg brace on would be better than Kieffer Moore.

 

[Mojo]

The brewster hate riles me no end. Young lad we were all desperate to sign, shown nothing but true love, respect and commitment to the blades.

People talk like the money the clubs spent on him is their own hard earned personal savings or something.

People really seem to have a vendetta against him for some reason. Me personally I enjoy watching him, think if his injury problems are behind him he can go from strength to strength.

People saying he isn't prem quality is laughable. Newsflash: we have got about 3 players who are prem quality.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I said maybe not his fault, or to simplify not is fault!

You put Maybe which implies that you are not 100% sure he's not entirely blameless in regards to the cost.
I'm just curious to know what Rhian could have done differently.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

I can, I can

Seems only fair to judge them at the age of 24-25 (Brewster's current age).

Moore

• Premier League Games = 0
• Championship Games = 31 (4 goals)
• League 1 Games = 30 (3 goals)
• League 2 Games = 0
• National League Games = 37 (12)
• International Career
  • England C (1 game, 0 goals)

Brewster

• Premier League Games = 40
• Championship Games = 75 (16 goals)
• League 1 Games = 0
• League 2 Games = 0
• National League Games = 0
• International Career
  • England u16 (4 games, 4 goals)
  • England u17 (23 games, 20 goals)
  • England u18 (1 game, 0 goals)
  • England u21 (18 games, 3 goals)

Come on then smart arse, if you're playing that game then I can destroy your argument in two words.

Jamie Vardy.

Good luck wriggling out of that one.

 

[AnstonBlade1]

You have changed it now to most costly.
What has the fact he maybe could retire on what he's earned in 5 years got to do with anything, Sheffield United agreed to pay him a salary.
Unfortunately there is a risk attached with this especially in professional sport that they might get injured are you suggesting Brewster should have not been paid while he was injured ?
It seems there might be a little jealousy going on here.

I’m saying new contracts are supposed to be earned, he’s done nothing in 5 years to be offered a new contract in any shape or form.
Time to move on.

 

[mattbianco1]

Come on then smart arse, if you're playing that game then I can destroy your argument in two words.

Jamie Vardy.

Good luck wriggling out of that one.

How am I being smart?

You've written Brewster off at 24 years old.
You then wanted to compare Moore's career stats against Brewster. How can we do that fairly when Moore is 8 years older? Brewster has achieved more and played at a higher level at 24 than Moore did.
I'm terribly sorry, but I don't have Brewster's stats up until the year 2033 just yet.

Bringing Jamie Vardy into it is actually another good example as to why not to write off a 24 year old.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

How am I putting words in your mouth. You literally said Cannon started because he's better than Brewster

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You said I'd based it on three games, I haven't.

Cannon's career didn't start three games ago.

He's played in the Championship for Preston, Leicester and Stoke.

And he's already scored more goals than Brewster even though he's two years younger.

 

[TJ blade]

You put Maybe which implies that you are not 100% sure he's not entirely blameless in regards to the cost.
I'm just curious to know what Rhian could have done differently.

Just ignore it pal, this is giving me a fucking headache!! I'm off for a few jars before the game, I suggest you do the same!!

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I said maybe not his fault, or to simplify not is fault!

You put Maybe which implies that you are not 100% sure he's not entirely blameless in regards to the cost.
I'm just curious to know what Rhian could have done differently.

I’m saying new contracts are supposed to be earned, he’s done nothing in 5 years to be offered a new contract in any shape or form.
Time to move on.

Just the small contribution of getting the winner at Milwall, getting the equaliser at Swansea and setting the winner up against Portsmouth, I take it you didn't celebrate any of those goals.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Bringing Jamie Vardy into it is actually another good example as to why not to write off a 24 year old.

According to your own logic which you've just laid out, Rhian Brewster is better than Jamie Vardy.

You should tell more people about that.

They won't think you're mental or owt.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Just ignore it pal, this is giving me a fucking headache!! I'm off for a few jars before the game, I suggest you do the same!!

Lucky you, unfortunately I am working so it will be straight to the ground for me, enjoy.

 

[Lucky1979]

Balham

You seem to know your figures anyway.

Can you do the stats on Moore v Brewster for International goals, Premier League goals, Championship goals and League One goals?

You mean stuff that doesn’t affect our team and has nothing to do with their performances in the championship this season? Do you want to know who makes a better spag bol as well?

 

[Blade45]

You said I'd based it on three games, I haven't.

Cannon's career didn't start three games ago.

He's played in the Championship for Preston, Leicester and Stoke.

And he's already scored more goals than Brewster even though he's two years younger.

Cannon might be a better goal scorer, but based on the three games (and that one Stoke fan), he doesn’t provide much else. Brewster may have had some of his quickness sapped out of his legs, but his work rate and pressing is impressive. He is a decent passer that links up well with several players, and he’s always looking to make things happen.

Brewster’s main problem is composure in front of goal. It’s a big problem for an otherwise good striker. If he gets that sorted (and if he plays more consistently, I think he will), he’d be a really good striker.