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Have we suddenly turned into Barcelona where we can afford to let go of players of championship quality who have just been named POTY for a championship side?

I find some of the views on Brayford very strange. He is our player and one of the few we know for sure is of championship quality, of course we want him back. He left for financial reasons not because of his ability or attitude.
 
PittsburghBlade said:
Not sure we have room for egos anymore, proper footballers.
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Didn't he take a massive pay cut because he wanted first team football with us? Everything I've seen about his attitude has been very complimentary. He was often praised on here for being a "proper old school footballer" who put playing first and was quite humble.

I've never read anything to suggest he's problematic or got an ego.
 
If they can get decent money for him then let him move on. We need to keep looking forward.

If there are no serious takers on a permanent transfer than perhaps give him a chance to earn his place back. He would be nowhere near my starting eleven at the moment and I mean no disrespect to him on saying that. It's just my honest opinion.
 
YorkBlade said:
I genuinely don't know the answer to this. How many games does a player have to play to be eligible for a medal?
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If it's the amount that Brayford's played for us this season then that can only indicate one much scarier thing that I for one cannot possibly comprehend...






Dean Hammond will probably have a Premier League winners medal.
 
Next season we are going to need an championship quality attacking fullback, not a wing half who happens to be able to do a bit of defending. That's a subtle but huge difference. Brayford for me, sorry KF.

Oh and leave the snide references out please with regard to Brayford. What the fuck has he done to deserve that?
 
We already have better at RWB, and for me at RCB. We could easily sign someone better defensively and cheaper at RB.

If he's not going to start, then we can't be keeping him. Not on the wages he's on.

And I don't think he would be starting either because I don't think he's Wilder's sort of player, especially at CB. And physically he can't seem to play RWB anymore.

I can see a swap deal for McFadzean happening. Would prefer Irvine but we'd have to pay a lot of cash plus Brayford for him. And we won't pay a lot for a central midfielder because we won't be signing one to be undisputed first choice.
 
Brayford is an odd one. He left for financial reasons as stated,but I believe we also subsidise his wages whilst at Burton. Loaning him out probably freed up space for Moore.

I do think wilder will see his wages as disproportionate with the rest of the squad and look to bring in someone like Conor McLaughlin on a fraction of the wages and also potential re sale value..

Now the negatives I can't see who will sign Brayford his wages will be to
High for Burton to afford IMO and I very much doubt we would get a fee.

I'd like to see him stay as I think he adds quality we will definitely need but I think he will be moved on for financial reasons interest permitting
 
Ricky said:
We already have better at RWB, and for me at RCB. We could easily sign someone better defensively and cheaper at RB.

If he's not going to start, then we can't be keeping him. Not on the wages he's on.
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You have a decent argument except for one thing: We will have to start paying Championship wages next season.
 
Ricky said:
We already have better at RWB, and for me at RCB. We could easily sign someone better defensively and cheaper at RB.

If he's not going to start, then we can't be keeping him. Not on the wages he's on.

And I don't think he would be starting either because I don't think he's Wilder's sort of player, especially at CB. And physically he can't seem to play RWB anymore.

I can see a swap deal for McFadzean happening. Would prefer Irvine but we'd have to pay a lot of cash plus Brayford for him. And we won't pay a lot for a central midfielder because we won't be signing one to be undisputed first choice.
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How much is he on?

How does this compare with another second tier player of equal or better quality?
 
He'd without doubt enhance the squad. So keep him even if he isn't guaranteed a start.
 
Hang on,....we have stated we need more defenders.
He can play right back, and centre half and is experienced in both positions in the division we are going into.
Anyone questioning attitude is being very unfair.

Surely we look at the squad and what he adds, then decide from there.

But a back 5 of...

Freeman, Bradford, JOC, Bash, Lafferty looks pretty useful to me!
 
brayfords pay scale will now match what we will have pay in future
those are the facts of being a championship club again
If he was voted their player of the year and they stayed up , hes logically good enough
can we get better , Im sure Chris will have a view on it, if he returns on CWs terms fine
I can live with that , if he decides on someone else again fine must be as good or better
 

Bladesway said:
But he just received player of the season from a team a division above. Are you stating facts here as ITK? Just seems a bit of a supposition that the bloke can't train, just plays games but is good enough to win their player of the season?

If he is good enough and is on our books wouldn't we be better off with him?
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Just trust Wilder mate I'm sure he knows .Utb
 
snootyfenooty said:
You have a decent argument except for one thing: We will have to start paying Championship wages next season.
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I agree, the cheap as chips philosophy will only get us so far in the Championship. Even Warnock eventually needed a few quid to spend on the squad to get us to go that bit further and that was over a decade ago.

I am not saying we should spend silly money either but it would be naive to assume players will come to us and play for next to nothing. Especially when we consider how much money is now floating around in the Championship these days.
 
I don't get this, some on here are saying the Blades who bought him can't afford his wages but Burton who can't afford to buy him can ?

I know Mr Wilder say's he only want's players who want to play for us but to let a player of his quality go on a cut price deal would not just be stupid, it would be criminal......
 
Baffling! The bloke took a cut in wages to play for us that is a fact. How much his wages were/are, non of you know. It is likely that they were/are higher than others who are still around in our club. He is an experienced Championship performer and he would want to play for us again. Folk spouting crap about a bloke who wants more to look back on than how much money he earned during his career. His future is in Chris Wilders hand.
I personally hope he wants him. After all he did hail him as the best full back in league one last June.
 
snootyfenooty said:
You have a decent argument except for one thing: We will have to start paying Championship wages next season.
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But not 10k p/w+ for squad players.


A lot of the people strongly in favour of having him back won't know a fraction of what Wilder does in terms of potential replacements and how much they'd cost. So it's not a no brainer to say we should have him back as he'd enhance the squad.

We're linked with Jason McCarthy. He's 21, he can play CB, RB and RWB. We might only need to pay a bit of compensation for him as he's out of contract at Southampton as things stand. His wages would be lower than Brayford's and even if they weren't he'd be a better asset for us, and primarily being a CB he's more what we need and would be likely to start more games.
There will be other players like this too.

Wilder will get it right.
 
I suppose it comes down to wages he would need to be starting to justify his earnings and then there is the question mark on his fitness Wilder will know what is best. Kyle McFadzean? FFS we need much better than him we are no longer an average league one outfit.
 
Ricky said:
I have no interest whatsoever in seeing him back here and I don't think Wilder has either.
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Yes but Brayford (like Ched) represents a significant financial investment - most of which we should try to recoup. If Burton don't want to pay a realistic fee for him, then get him back, even as a squad player.
 
grafikhaus said:
Yes but Brayford (like Ched) represents a significant financial investment - most of which we should try to recoup. If Burton don't want to pay a realistic fee for him, then get him back, even as a squad player.
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What's a realistic fee for a 29 year old with a year left on his contract who can't train?

We're not going to recoup close to what we paid, that ship has sailed.

If it's a choice between recouping as much as we can or keeping hold of him and paying his wages (which will probably increase further now we're promoted) only for him to barely play for us then it's a no brainer - we recoup and save on the wages too, which are also a big part of the investment.


Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
One thing is for sure, Burton can't afford him outright.
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Why, what price do you have in mind? And if they can't we could look to do a swap.
 
I reckon a couple of hundred grand and a commitment to pay his entire wage would swing it.
 
FinchleyBlade said:
Brayford is on big wages for L1 not for the championship.
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He signed for Cardiff as a Premier league club and was supposedly on £25k per week and came to us on £20k.

That is still BIG money for the Championship and Burton will only be paying a part of that, with us picking up the rest.

Agreed he is very much a Championship quality player but given how KF has come on, I'm not sure how we'd use him. For that reason it would probably be a 'thanks for the good times under Clough' , but I'd move him on.

I can't understand some of the snidey digs at him. Fair enough he wants to play for Clough but my understanding was it us who encouraged him to go and not him pushing for a move.
 

Some interesting opinions on this thread for what it's worth mine us that we would be crazy not to welcome him back into the fold next season
I was never his biggest fan but a proven championship quality player we don't have to pay a transfer fee for is ready and waiting and I don't have any doubts about his attitude and I'm not sure why some do

No brainer
 
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