Boos, really ?

[Jon Bon]

The fans CAN make a difference here.

I don't pay my money to hear the fans sing, I pay it to see the players put in a decent shift. I was robbed.

 

[super_pig]

What Wilson was actually saying was it was the young players that were effected by the booing. There were some really young kids out there tonight and I can see how they would take it personally. I know there's all that 'If you're good enough you're old enough talk' but no-one goes on a football pitch and tries to play poorly!

interesting .. personally i thought it was the more experienced players.. Doyle, Kitson and Collins that seemed to be more affected by the crowd
the reason everyone's computers have started working sitters is that it was a home game (we only win away) and everyone went and so could pass judgement .. simples..
i didn't boo. but i felt like it.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Really there was boos? Fickle bastards!

Were there boos during the game or just at half and full time?

The general half/full time boo is normally just a message from the crowd that they're not happy with what they've just seen, and shouldn't affect individual players' confidence/performance too negatively.

 

[super_pig]

boos were at full time.. general disgruntlement at half time

 

[Bladesway]

Booing or Cheering. Makes no difference either way.

That reet ?

Ask the players. And this really is the issue.

The disconnect between the fans frustrations and the players having a difficult or bad day at the office.

If your partner was to serve you up a meal that turned out to be a bit poor for whatever reason,would you boo him / her ?

Would you expect your gaffer to loudly boo you if you made an error at work ?

Fans these days think that they have a divine right to boo or be otherwise negative on the back of "iv paid me money so I can do what I want".

Once again we are right in the mix where the prize of auto promotion is in sight and yet the lottery of the play offs is also a distinct possibility.

The fans CAN make a difference here.

High horse time is it? You a bigger fan because you don't boo? I don't boo, never have but last night I had travelled 300 miles and got a ticket to watch that absolute shite. I think anyone paying money has the right to boo no matter where we are in the table. The performance was truly shocking. Back to front, player for player only Robson and Poleon seemed to try and make something happen. Long was faultless as well. KMac, of course is the darling boy so beyond reproach (see brown nosing thread elsewhere) but I expect players of his supposed quality to turn games, no matter if he is playing for Sheffield United or the Dog and Duck. Flynn was no worse than anyone else on the park but gets targetted for dogs abuse yet Kitson was god awful and no one really mentions it.

Boo if you like, you pay your money so you have the right. If they are shit someone has to let them know its unacceptable.

Disconnect between players and the fans eh? And its our fault because some of us boo? I've read some man seed in my time but that really does go towards the far end of ridiculous. You know what, when I fuck up at work I expect to be told. If 15,000 people paid to watch me work I would expect them to let me know as well. Players get paid more than most of us do to play a game that we pay to watch. Give it them large if you don't think they are giving 100%. Boo, call them shit, generally do what you like (within legal bounds). How else will they know its not good enough? This is football, not the National Ballet. Man up.

 

[TopBoy]

Never have and never will understand booing, why not go the whole hog and hiss as well? It's not a bloody pantomime despite the fact it often feels like it

 

[Northyorksblade]

interesting .. personally i thought it was the more experienced players.. Doyle, Kitson and Collins that seemed to be more affected by the crowd
the reason everyone's computers have started working sitters is that it was a home game (we only win away) and everyone went and so could pass judgement .. simples..
i didn't boo. but i felt like it.

Possibly, but I commented re Wilson's post game interview. Possibly he was meaning that the younger players take it to heart more. George Long certainly seemed to lose confidence after a few bad games, but has now got back to his best. I don't think the defence can be criticised too much. At the end of the day, they kept a clean sheet. They had more to do because we seemed to be on the back foot all the time. Had our midfield and attacking players played better, the defence wouldn't have had half as much to do.

 

[ScoobBlade]

interesting .. personally i thought it was the more experienced players.. Doyle, Kitson and Collins that seemed to be more affected by the crowd
the reason everyone's computers have started working sitters is that it was a home game (we only win away) and everyone went and so could pass judgement .. simples..
i didn't boo. but i felt like it.

3-0 v Colchester, could have sworn that was played at the lane, difference being we got an early goal and the boo's therefore never came !

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Were there boos during the game or just at half and full time?

The general half/full time boo is normally just a message from the crowd that they're not happy with what they've just seen, and shouldn't affect individual players' confidence/performance too negatively.

Possibly, but I commented re Wilson's post game interview. Possibly he was meaning that the younger players take it to heart more. George Long certainly seemed to lose confidence after a few bad games, but has now got back to his best. I don't think the defence can be criticised too much. At the end of the day, they kept a clean sheet. They had more to do because we seemed to be on the back foot all the time. Had our midfield and attacking players played better, the defence wouldn't have had half as much to do.

I think Wilson was referring to two specific incidents and he mentioned "oohs" and "aahhs" rather than booing.

One was when Maguire made a mistake that forced Long into a save. This was brought up by Paul Walker not Wilson and he said he in a perfect world the crowd wouldn't react badly to mistakes but he understands it's not a perfect world.

The second was when De Girolamo ran with the ball and tried to angle a cross into the box rather than play an easy ball out wide to Higginbotham. Wilson specifically mentioned "if a young player doesn't see a simple pass that everyone in the stand can see".

In both instances there was a kind of general frustrated yelling from certain people in the crowd rather then everyone booing en-masse. Personally, I was very surprised at that reaction to De Girolamo in particular as it wasn't even a mistake more him trying to create a chance by taking the difficult rather than the easy option. That is precisely the kind of thing that could drive a creative, young player into his shell and I can fully understand Wilson expressing a concern about that.

This idea that Wilson generally slagged all United fans off for booing and blamed the poor performance on it, seems to be a myth that's sprung up on here somehow. Possibly a case of chinese whispers from people who didn't hear the original interview.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

I didn't boo & rarely do - but suggesting that this contributed to another abysmal performance is bonkers. The fans got behind the team but were then frustrated by the lack of urgency, quality & positive intent. It really was shocking and no surprise that it eventually resulted in some booing. Unfortunately, most of the home performances this season have been poor which has contributed to the fans' frustration.

We rarely come out of the blocks quickly under Wilson and it's something he needs to address.

 

[Grecian2000]

3-0 v Colchester, could have sworn that was played at the lane, difference being we got an early goal and the boo's therefore never came !

Or, the early goal meant Colchester couldn't play simply to contain us as they then needed to score to get anything from the game, thus giving us more space to play a game we are happier with.
The booing is a result of us not playing well, not the other way around.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I didn't boo & rarely do - but suggesting that this contributed to another abysmal performance is bonkers. The fans got behind the team but were then frustrated by the lack of urgency, quality & positive intent. It really was shocking and no surprise that it eventually resulted in some booing. Unfortunately, most of the home performances this season have been poor which has contributed to the fans' frustration.

We rarely come out of the blocks quickly under Wilson and it's something he needs to address.

The Radio Sheffield interview is on this page:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21502366

He talks about the "oohs and ahhs affecting young players" from about 01:25. Never mentions "booing".

 

[TopBoy]

I always get excited when I hear people talking about boos only to discover is boos and not booze.

 

[muttsnuts]

Frustrating night all round I know but on the back of 3 wins I think it's pathetic to boo them off the pitch, what will it achieve, precisely FUCK ALL !

So you are happy to sit back and watch all the hard work undone again and let another season slip by without voicing your opinion? If they play well then they get the applause and the pat on the back, if they play like they did last night they should get a kick up the arse, just like i would if i performed like that at work (for a lot less money). It is not good enough what these players are serving up and it shows how bad this league is if we are top.

 

[Eskimo]

I had convinced myself we had turned the corner and then Forte, then Murphy gets injured. It takes time for a new player to bed in and both had started to play well and the team to gell. But last night we were back to square one. I dont think it was anyones fault in particular but they looked like a team that had not played together in those positions, which they hadn't. Poleon did his best but the team looked better when he went on the wing in the 2nd half.

How many times have we been able to field the same team in consecutive matches this season?

 

[muttsnuts]

I had convinced myself we had turned the corner and then Forte, then Murphy gets injured. It takes time for a new player to bed in and both had started to play well and the team to gell. But last night we were back to square one. I dont think it was anyones fault in particular but they looked like a team that had not played together in those positions, which they hadn't. Poleon did his best but the team looked better when he went on the wing in the 2nd half.

How many times have we been able to field the same team in consecutive matches this season?

Does that render you incapable of passing the ball to your own player, or even running into space, or looking slightly interested. Shall i go on?

 

[Jehovah]

I would think the players are now more than aware that if they don't win at home, they will get boo'ed. I don't think it particularly matters who that is against in this league. They got boo'ed off against Tranmere who were top of the league.

I have never boo'ed United. I save my boos for the opposition time wasting and feigning injuries etc. I don't particularly have a problem with it. Fans booing the the team off when we have played shit and failed to beat a team that, as dictated by the table, are distinctly average (Orient defeated 8 times on the road, more games than we have lost all season)

I have more of a problem with the morons who sit around me who after sometimes no more than 60 seconds, shout "THATS EFFING CRAP WILSON"

 

[axel smeets]

If you pay for a season/match ticket, you are entitled to your opinion, or to boo if you should so choose. Personally, I wouldn't, but the hysterical castigating of those who do choose to boo is unwarranted. IMO.

 

[broomhillblade]

I was disappointed in him questioning the fans. It's a cold Tuesday night, there is a recession on and supporters have a right to expect better than what was on offer tonight.

If only football was that simple. Maybe Lawyers 4U should put an ad on the telly: "Have you been disappointed by a football match? You can claim compensation under the Human Rights Act."

 

[Grecian2000]

If only football was that simple. Maybe Lawyers 4U should put an ad on the telly: "Have you been disappointed by a football match? You can claim compensation under the Human Rights Act."

Or maybe you can show your displeasure in some other more vocal way.

We have this "debate" every time we play poorly and the crowd don't like it. Funnily enough when we play well no-one has a go. Strange that.

 

[broomhillblade]

I go to a football match more in hope than expectation. If it turns out to be a cracker then I regard it as a bonus.

Of course, I'm disappointed if we don't win, but the unpredictability of it all is one of the attractions of the game. Swindon lost at home to Bury. Their fans must be scratching their heads.

 

[alcoblade]

The home crowd are a lot less patient than the away crowd. It takes approximately one pass that the majority think should have gone a different way for this to start getting edgy. It does in pockets away, it's just quieter due to numbers

We look nervous and hide more at home.

It's not an excuse, just an observation.

First half last night was unsuprisingly like a morgue. I can't see how the players could have felt any pressure from the crowd, yet the performance was the usual tortoise style nothingness.

We are good away because our painfully slow style suits playing against teams that come at us more. If they don't, we're too pedestrian to break them down.

UTB

 

[true99blade]

I'm not gonna bother arguing about anything but in my honest opinion, the players deserved to be booed off, a performance like that from a 'top of the table' side is far from good enough. Professional footballers really should be able to cope with it and more importantly LEARN FROM IT! What don't they get by it? They were shite and they should realise they were shite and do something about it.

 

[DronnieBlade]

High horse time is it? You a bigger fan because you don't boo? I don't boo, never have but last night I had travelled 300 miles and got a ticket to watch that absolute shite. I think anyone paying money has the right to boo no matter where we are in the table. The performance was truly shocking. Back to front, player for player only Robson and Poleon seemed to try and make something happen. Long was faultless as well. KMac, of course is the darling boy so beyond reproach (see brown nosing thread elsewhere) but I expect players of his supposed quality to turn games, no matter if he is playing for Sheffield United or the Dog and Duck. Flynn was no worse than anyone else on the park but gets targetted for dogs abuse yet Kitson was god awful and no one really mentions it.

Boo if you like, you pay your money so you have the right. If they are shit someone has to let them know its unacceptable.

Disconnect between players and the fans eh? And its our fault because some of us boo? I've read some man seed in my time but that really does go towards the far end of ridiculous. You know what, when I fuck up at work I expect to be told. If 15,000 people paid to watch me work I would expect them to let me know as well. Players get paid more than most of us do to play a game that we pay to watch. Give it them large if you don't think they are giving 100%. Boo, call them shit, generally do what you like (within legal bounds). How else will they know its not good enough? This is football, not the National Ballet. Man up.

Think you have mis understood me.

It is the specific "act" of booing that I take issue with. Its frankly childish (IMHO).

Call McGuire a useless donkey.
Let Doyle know he couldn't pass wind.
Let Cresswell know that the knackers yard is that a way --------->

Just don't boo.

Don't expect any of this to make a flying F of a difference as its indicative of the blame/sue culture society we all now inhabit. And its getting worse.

 

[Grecian2000]

its indicative of the blame/sue culture society we all now inhabit. And its getting worse.

I certainly bemoan the current culture (which I think is getting absolutely appalling), but I just think booing is actually more of a throwback to a better time (i.e. rather than a four letter tirade at individuals or the collective) and frankly it just makes me laugh.

 

[bartman]

For me,I cannot see the logic of fans booing the team and slating individuals during the game. They should be supported whcilst they were on that pitch. It was noticeable in the 2nd half last night that the work rate and the pace at which we played increased when the fans got behind them (they were still poor but at least they showed some desire.). Maybe they should inspire us but sometimes we have to do it.

However,at the end of the game,if it is as poor as it was last night,I think fans are entitled to boo irrespective of whether they have won the last 4 games especially as the quality from the majority of players was so poor

 

[Bladesway]

Think you have mis understood me.

It is the specific "act" of booing that I take issue with. Its frankly childish (IMHO).

Call McGuire a useless donkey.
Let Doyle know he couldn't pass wind.
Let Cresswell know that the knackers yard is that a way --------->

Just don't boo.

Don't expect any of this to make a flying F of a difference as its indicative of the blame/sue culture society we all now inhabit. And its getting worse.

I think its all a bit poor but I wouldnt put this down to blame culture. Some of us are used to shit inconsistent players and a team that's brilliant one minute then woeful the next. Unfortunately some of us arent and whilever you see arsenal fans booing what do you expect from fans utterly starved of glory who in the last few years had tye trapdoor slammed shut on their fingers.

Perhaps more to do with a want it all now society rather than blame and sue culture but I'm not sure myself.

 

[Bladesway]

I'm not gonna bother arguing about anything but in my honest opinion, the players deserved to be booed off, a performance like that from a 'top of the table' side is far from good enough. Professional footballers really should be able to cope with it and more importantly LEARN FROM IT! What don't they get by it? They were shite and they should realise they were shite and do something about it.

I like this so much I put a flake in it.

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

The fans CAN make a difference here.

Sorry Dronnie Blade but we CAN'T! How many times have we backed the fickle fuckers to the hilt only to be let down? Semi-finals, play-offs, derby matches etc. Over the years we've put up with some real shite, and we're still here still backing them in our own inimitable way, but the thought that singing and cheering even when they're crap makes a jot of difference is very naive. All this "Sing your heart out for the lads" bollocks is just that, bollocks. It serves nothing more than self gratification after a shite performance, the old "Aah well, I did my bit even though we were wank and anybody who boo'd isn't a proper fan" sketch.

Sometimes you hold your hands up and admit you've been beaten by a better side, sometimes you shake your head at the prissy little darlings but please don't make the mistake of believing that any of them gives a shit about thee or me because they don't.

Never boo'd the Blades in my life, (apart from Monty who I detested), and never bothered if anybody wants to sing for 90 minutes, but I wouldn't blame anybody who does get pissed off enough to boo. Sometimes they deserve it.

 

[super_pig]

Flynn was no worse than anyone else on the park but gets targetted for dogs abuse yet Kitson was god awful and no one really mentions it.

that's because he scores a goal every now and then.. that said .. i agree with a lot of your post