Boos, really ?

[ScoobBlade]

Frustrating night all round I know but on the back of 3 wins I think it's pathetic to boo them off the pitch, what will it achieve, precisely FUCK ALL !

 

[scouseblade]

4 straight wins and they get booed off? Not the best results but still in automatic promotion places, a game in hand and decent goal difference. Other teams are slipping up. Lets stay positive!

 

[Kenilworth]

You are right but for the fans paying to watch at BDTBL and not going to the away games they will be very disappointed to see a lacklustre performance at home, again - after such good results on the road. Not as though their keeper made any more than one save (Doyle) so you can understand the frustration.

 

[madeinsheffield]

Still shouldn't boo, we've got quite a few young lads, they need supporting not booing, or do you want to shatter their confidence completely

 

[Foxy]

The home crowd are a lot less patient than the away crowd. It takes approximately one pass that the majority think should have gone a different way for this to start getting edgy. It does in pockets away, it's just quieter due to numbers

We look nervous and hide more at home.

It's not an excuse, just an observation.

 

[sheffielder]

The home crowd are a lot less patient than the away crowd. It takes approximately one pass that the majority think should have gone a different way for this to start getting edgy. It does in pockets away, it's just quieter due to numbers

We look nervous and hide more at home.

It's not an excuse, just an observation.

There is no excuse not to show desire. Our tactics seem to be the same for home as it is away and it plays into alot of teams hands. Last season we could stroke the ball along the back 4 all day long, now we can't so we have to adapt. It's not rocket science as someone famously used to say on here

 

[Kenilworth]

Not me booing though is it? I am just saying that many people will feel frustrated that the home results are poor compared to the away results. There is more emphasis on the home team to break the opposition down and whilst we can do the defensive job (Bournemouth at the weekend) we do not have enough quality to break teams down when they play tight in our own back yard. People expect strong home performances but we are in a league where we cannot afford much quality and what we have (Miller, Forte, Murphy) in an attacking sense is all on the treatment table at the moment. Lack of pace and lack of movement means that you suffer against a well organised and hard working side. Slade will have done his homework and set the Os up to frustrate us and catch us on the break. We just weren't good enough to pull them apart and create anything clear cut enough to take.
Poleon is quick but raw - his type of talent is better suited to an away performance when you are under the cosh and need some pace to counter and possibly nick one.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Have had my say on this a few times. Here goes again.

The habit of booing at football is nothing less than the act of a petulant child who has not managed to get his / her own way.

STOP IT.

End of.

 

[Foxy]

There is no excuse ....

I'm sure I said something somewhere in my post about not being an excuse for anything

It certainly doesn't help, it's part and parcel of football and we should be good enough to overcome the nervousness (certainly with normally vocal senior pro's in the side).

We are visibly more confident and make more space away from home in general.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

This season we have watched some right dreadful performances at home, we always waste the first half of each game, we see odd spells of decent play, but end of the day these players are not putting enough in at home, its up to them to get the fans of the seats, they don't. We pay our tickets to be entertained, football is an entertainment and people want to enjoy watching united , we were top of the league and our fans start to get our hopes up, then to see that.
Wilson as shown his true colours tonight also blaming the fans, get a backbone and kick them lazy ass players into gear, stop wasting the first half, run at the defense and have at least a few shots on target, so much to bloody ask!
I just don't want to see another season go to waste when there is such a clear chance of promotion!

 

[Foxy]

Wilson as shown his true colours tonight also blaming the fans, get a backbone and kick them lazy ass players into gear, stop wasting the first half, run at the defense and have at least a few shots on target, so much to bloody ask!
I just don't want to see another season go to waste when there is such a clear chance of promotion!

To be fair to him, he did actually say he wasn't blaming the fans, he just expanded on certain players being nervous when the crowd reacts when pushed by Walker. I take it all the many occasions he's praised the fans and their backing were his "fake colours"?

I don't think it would have helped anyone for him to come out and castigate his players instead this evening.

 

[Kenilworth]

We are visibly more confident and make more space away from home in general.

That's because we are expected to make the pace at home and force the play whereas we can soak up more away and counter. With the current squad we are not skillful or clever enough to fashion opportunities to present the forwards with clear cut scoring chances. They live off scraps (and their movement is generally poor compared to those in the top two divisions).

 

[Deleted member 875]

The home crowd are a lot less patient than the away crowd. It takes approximately one pass that the majority think should have gone a different way for this to start getting edgy. It does in pockets away, it's just quieter due to numbers

We look nervous and hide more at home.

It's not an excuse, just an observation.

I would go along with that Foxy. Didn't pop down early for a half time pint as i'm at work early tomorrow morning so i stayed right up and until half time, and was amazed how many booed them off at half-time. We was drawing 0-0, and if it was away from home then we would have cheered them off, and given them a bit more encouragement.

 

[cahill]

If playing in front of sizeable crowds is too much for some of the players perhaps they'd be better off plying their trade at Accrington or Morecambe. Come on, crowd reaction positive or negative is all part of the game,

 

[B.Lade]

May be ins another thread but why was Murphy out tonight?

 

[bobby ford]

If playing in front of sizeable crowds is too much for some of the players perhaps they'd be better off plying their trade at Accrington or Morecambe. Come on, crowd reaction positive or negative is all part of the game,

I believe Wilson was referring to the younger element of the squad who are not yet used to play in front of 17-20k crowds. Especially your creative younger players like Girolamo who likes to take risks and try things that may not always come off, but when they do will look great. I think Wilson's point was that the impatience of the crowd at times can prevent that sort of creativity and flair as the younger lads will be looking to get the ball out of their feet asap in fear of losing the ball and facing moans from the crowd.

 

[jose_d_blade]

look i see kids Sunday teams get more stick than that and the difference is they play there heart out for the love of the game and don't get paid for the privilege its the more senior player who should shoulder the blame and step it up a notch sloppy lazy and complacent thats what the booing was for the younger players were the better players today

 

[Deadbat]

The crowd were patient in my opinion. We never started right and the touch, passing and desire was not there from the off. The crowd were desperate to get behind something, anything. Not many players did anything right first half. If fans had paid money to watch professionals (prob on double or triple the opponents) and could not even do basics right all game, of course there will be odd groans/moans. Yes it got worse near the end but some of our players need to show some balls and get the crowd behind them by starting games right and imposing them seleves. If they cant break down Orient or even have a shot on target till the 87th minutes then god help them. As someone else has said if they dont like expectation and pressure then start right (lets be honest other than Scunnt and flashetes v Colchester we have played awful at home for last couple of months and lost and drawn a lot of the games) and get the fans up and behind them. Most do want to cheer and not boo but come on tonight what did the side give them to get behind?

As another poster remakred let them go and play in front of 2,000 elsewhere in League 1 lower end or League 2 if they dont fancy it here. I felt the crowd rose for the younger players and tried to get behind them (Diego when he came on). Not having this 'its the crowds fault'. We are better away as we can sit back and defend in numbers and play more on the break. We dont have creativity or pace to tear teams apart so our players suit the more disciplined approach. Sadly at home teams can do the same to us and pack midfield. We dont know how to break these down when we have to take the game to teams. I do think their is a lot of clap trap about our home v away form with regards to crowd etc. Blaming them is a really poor excuse and the players need to man up and not cry if the crowd groan when they cannot control a simple ball. Show some desire, win a tackle, get stuck in and they may put up with odd mis control but they aint even doing that at home at the moment.

 

[dingledog]

I was disappointed in him questioning the fans. It's a cold Tuesday night, there is a recession on and supporters have a right to expect better than what was on offer tonight. There is a weight of unfulfilled expectations at the Lane and everyone is nervous, but professional players should be professional. I didn't boo, but I was certainly underwhelmed by the performance.

 

[bobby ford]

I think what frustrated most fans today was the build up to the match coming off the back of such a great run. Fans were expecting a confident performance with a real chance to put a 'bit' of space between us and 3rd place, instead they were met by 90 minutes of extreme mediocrity to be polite.

As DW said 13/15 points is a cracking return and it is easy in hindsight to reflect on this great run, the injuries we had tonight and how results could have been worse but it's not as easy to take such a calm, collected view when watching extremely dire football with hardly any chances and suffering from mild frostbite.

 

[mattbianco1]

Really there was boos? Fickle bastards!

Given the choice I would've sooner dropped points tonight than against Bournemouth.

You can't win every game but we're still at the front of the grid for promotion.

Booing is ridiculous

 

[Northyorksblade]

I don't boo, never have, but it was a truly disappointing performance tonight. Most passes were sideways, backwards or misplaced. Movement was slow, we were often second to the ball and they were good on the break. It's very disappointing when we have so few shots on goal and barely test their goalkeeper. Thank goodness for Goerge's two great saves and also for most of the other teams around us messing up as well. Just annoying that we didn't as so many times before, capitalise on that.

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

Booing? Cheering? Makes no difference either way. There's been countless occasions where the fans have given magnificent support and still been let down by the team so ffs stop trying to make out that a few boos are to blame for the fact that well paid professionals can't raise their game enough to beat inferior opposition when it matters.

Not saying booing helps but it shows what kind of prissy little darlings we have if they need protecting from it. If they had any bollocks they'd want to ram the boos down the fans throats but they don't have the spine for that. They hide on the pitch then hide when they're criticised. Time for one or two to grow a pair otherwise we'll end up bottling it yet again.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Booing? Cheering? Makes no difference either way. There's been countless occasions where the fans have given magnificent support and still been let down by the team so ffs stop trying to make out that a few boos are to blame for the fact that well paid professionals can't raise their game enough to beat inferior opposition when it matters.

Not saying booing helps but it shows what kind of prissy little darlings we have if they need protecting from it. If they had any bollocks they'd want to ram the boos down the fans throats but they don't have the spine for that. They hide on the pitch then hide when they're criticised. Time for one or two to grow a pair otherwise we'll end up bottling it yet again.

Booing or Cheering. Makes no difference either way.

That reet ?

Ask the players. And this really is the issue.

The disconnect between the fans frustrations and the players having a difficult or bad day at the office.

If your partner was to serve you up a meal that turned out to be a bit poor for whatever reason,would you boo him / her ?

Would you expect your gaffer to loudly boo you if you made an error at work ?

Fans these days think that they have a divine right to boo or be otherwise negative on the back of "iv paid me money so I can do what I want".

Once again we are right in the mix where the prize of auto promotion is in sight and yet the lottery of the play offs is also a distinct possibility.

The fans CAN make a difference here.

 

[Fiery Blade]

The players can make much more of a difference - one or two of them can try putting a shift in now and again - it's not too much to ask!
I will cheer anyone who tries and whilst I don't boo I will not keep clapping overpaid, idle wastes of spaces - and there was one or two of them on the field last night!
One other thought - If we are relying on Cresswell as our saviour - time to pack up, get out the cricket gear and look forward to summer and then another year in this god awful division!!

 

[Grecian2000]

Booing or Cheering. Makes no difference either way.


If your partner was to serve you up a meal that turned out to be a bit poor for whatever reason,would you boo him / her ?

Would you expect your gaffer to loudly boo you if you made an error at work ?

Fans these days think that they have a divine right to boo or be otherwise negative on the back of "iv paid me money so I can do what I want".

Not the best analogy's I'm afraid. Booing and crowd abuse are part and parcel of professional sport, always have been, always will be. I can't believe for one minute that players don't get into this sort of profession without knowing that.

1. If I had a bad meal at home I'd say "that could've been better" BUT if I had a bad meal at a restaurant (i.e. I was paying for a service) then I would complain, I wouldn't expect to pay for and receive shite, that's dead simple. That's the equivalent of booing and I suggest is far more prevalent than any booing you've ever heard at BDTBL.

2. If, well not so much if as when, I screw up at work I get a bollocking from either customer or boss. Simple. That's the equivalent of booing and happens every day in every business I've ever worked in.

3. What's this "these days" nonesense. Listen to the crowd in the clip that someone posted the other day when we played Northampton in the mid sixties. Loud boo's at the missing of a sitter. Nothing changes.

As for last night, poor performance all around (George Long my MOM so says enough for me), not much more to say.

 

[grafikhaus]

The crowd were patient in my opinion. We never started right and the touch, passing and desire was not there from the off. The crowd were desperate to get behind something, anything.

Too true, DB. Any attempt by DW to shift blame onto the crowd is poor. It's like a concert. If the crowd just sits there with their arms folded, don't be surprised if it's a poor act, and vice versa.

Last night was one of the poorest displays I've ever seen. After an incredibly bad first half, there was a modicum of improvement for the first five minutes of the second before it descended into the usual home dross. The crowd are desperate to cheer, but if there's no reciprocation on the field, what do people expect?

FWIW, when I was a kid, it seemed to be the old 'uns who were the worst culprits for booing. Now it seems to be the younger element. X-Factor, instant gratification probably?

My main criticism of DW is the utter failure to 'boss' teams. We should fly down the tunnel, sleeves rolled up and straight into them. Once again last night, we were tentative and handed the initiative to the opposition.

 

[Flakey]

I was in charge of a sales unit (of which there were 2) and my old boss used to say 'They kicked the shit out of you last week'.
He was under some illusion that this would inspire me to do better.
Don't boo it will only make the guys not want to get the ball as they will know what will happen if they screw up
Better to have tried and failed and all that.

 

[Northyorksblade]

Booing? Cheering? Makes no difference either way. There's been countless occasions where the fans have given magnificent support and still been let down by the team so ffs stop trying to make out that a few boos are to blame for the fact that well paid professionals can't raise their game enough to beat inferior opposition when it matters.

Not saying booing helps but it shows what kind of prissy little darlings we have if they need protecting from it. If they had any bollocks they'd want to ram the boos down the fans throats but they don't have the spine for that. They hide on the pitch then hide when they're criticised. Time for one or two to grow a pair otherwise we'll end up bottling it yet again.

What Wilson was actually saying was it was the young players that were effected by the booing. There were some really young kids out there tonight and I can see how they would take it personally. I know there's all that 'If you're good enough you're old enough talk' but no-one goes on a football pitch and tries to play poorly!

 

[sitwell]

No youve got it wrong , we've paid good money so we should boo as loud as we can ,the players should play much better because of it.
Isnt it funny how certain posters computers have suddenly started working again after a couple of weeks ?