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You don't know that

It certainly didn't help. When pushing your body beyond its limits or what it's used to, things are more likely to go wrong

It might well have not been the cause but Heckeh was asking for it with such stupidity
It might not have been the cause but it was heckys fault anyway? is What you are implying.

unbelievable Jeff.

when you find yourself in a hole stop digging !
 

Do you mean 'grow some blind faith'?

If this unprecedented injury madness continues at anything like the same rate, we're fucked, and there's no point getting hopes up for promotion..... in a season where it would otherwise seem to be on a plate for us

I think a small bit of frustration is permissable...
No
I mean stop acting like a simpering child

Everything you've said might be true but crying about it won't change anything
 
How can it be negligent management when it was not the reason
Maybe because they're two big players and big assets who've both had significant recent injury problems and he kept them both on the pitch long after pretty much the whole stadium could see they needed bringing off

But if you say I'm in a hole, I must be in a hole. Silly silly me
 
It's all been said

77 minutes, 2nd game back, against difficult opponents, after playing 4 days before

Regardless or cause or what's to blame, this was beyond fucking stupid, as it was with Berge

And now 2 of our top assets are fucked again - its not only on the pitch where this shit will cost us, but financially too
Berge is an international footballer who should always be available for selection. His injury was also innocuous.

Bogle has some problems with the surgery which I’d hazard a guess would have always needed sorting at some point.
 
It's all been said

77 minutes, 2nd game back, against difficult opponents, after playing 4 days before

Regardless or cause or what's to blame, this was beyond fucking stupid, as it was with Berge

And now 2 of our top assets are fucked again - its not only on the pitch where this shit will cost us, but financially too

Berge is an Athlete and played 3 games in 8 days, as did many others, hardly killing him.
 
Probably also worth mentioning that Bogle was in an unfamiliar position, so throw that into the mix too

Even tactically it would have made sense starting him on the right

More good management...
 
Berge is an Athlete and played 3 games in 8 days, as did many others, hardly killing him.
Plus the injury wasn't a strain, he got clattered in the penalty incident.
I reckon Hecky told the player to boot him on purpose.
 
Probably also worth mentioning that Bogle was in an unfamiliar position, so throw that into the mix too

Even tactically it would have made sense starting him on the right

More good management...
What are you on about. I thought it was bogles knee that had a screw loose 🤣
 

All the factors I've mentioned with Bogle couldn't possibly have played a part in anything then

I bow to your obvious superb football knowledge

🤣 indeed
Correct.
The operation wasn't done right.

Nothing to do with football knowledge, it's just been able to read and understand what's been said.
 
Correct.
The operation wasn't done right.

Nothing to do with football knowledge, it's just been able to read and understand what's been said.
The football factors in question may have accelerated the event. An event that might have been inevitable at some point, but might not. A level of pressure on the knee that it isn't used to or ready for maximises the chances of something going wrong
 
How can fans who no bog all about the complexities of injuries to the human body possibly give an opinion on who is responsible ( if anybody) for our catalogue of misfortune?
I bet not one person who is blaming Hecky or the Physio's has any kind of medical knowledge.
Just accept the fact that these things happen.
Maybe it makes the moaning ones feel a bit better to apportion blame in order to help make them accept the situation.
 
The football factors in question may have accelerated the event. An event that might have been inevitable at some point, but might not. A level of pressure on the knee that it isn't used to or ready for maximises the chances of something going wrong
The metal wasn't covered up properly.
 

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