Blades Worst Manager
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TonyAgana
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A bit like Fry's musings over how the English like to emphasise the temperature by swapping and changing between Farenheit & Centigrade! "Isn't it hot, must be 90 degrees... isn't it cold, -10 degrees" 
Bladesman
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If Warnock were still here he could of been another striker to add to his collection.
a few errors there....
1. Furphy's first game as manager was the 0-0 draw at QPR on 8/12/73. The Southampton game was his third game.
2. We actually scored 4 against Southamton and in 74-5 scored 3 against Ipswich(h), West Ham (h - the quality goal from a quality player game), Spurs (a - in a 3-1 win), Everton (a - in a 3-2 win after being 2 down), and Birmingham (h). We also scored 4 against Leicester at home that season.
3. Furphy signed Garbett in Feb 74 and Field in Mar 74. Garbett was admittedly poor, but Field had a very good 74-75 season and getting 12 goals.
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super_pig
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>Another chance to have a dig at Blackwell
umm i think you are missing the point which is 'he's not the worst manager we've ever had'.. haslam has to be the worst.. purely by the results.. funny thing was everyone seemed to love him even as we went into complete meltdown.. he even had his own song. harry haslam, danny bergara, wibbly wobbly woo..
put 'em together and what have you got
bottom of division two (you were supposed to say 'top' but we always shouted bottom.. heh..
umm i think you are missing the point which is 'he's not the worst manager we've ever had'.. haslam has to be the worst.. purely by the results.. funny thing was everyone seemed to love him even as we went into complete meltdown.. he even had his own song. harry haslam, danny bergara, wibbly wobbly woo..
put 'em together and what have you got
bottom of division two (you were supposed to say 'top' but we always shouted bottom.. heh..
super_pig
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>Tony Field instead and they were really bad.
tony field.. really bad.. no, no and no i say.. i'll give you garbutt (garbage we used to call him) though.. furphy did really well with an aging outfit.. then had tc sold from under him (sounds familiar).. the facts speak for themselves.
tony field.. really bad.. no, no and no i say.. i'll give you garbutt (garbage we used to call him) though.. furphy did really well with an aging outfit.. then had tc sold from under him (sounds familiar).. the facts speak for themselves.
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Furphy tried to sell TC to Leeds long before the event.
By the time he did go Jimmy Sirrel was manager.
By the time he did go Jimmy Sirrel was manager.
super_pig
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the manoeuvrings were going on whilst furphy was manager..
Torrix1889
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It's a toss-up between, Peters, McEwan & Heath for me but Inchy probably takes the title by an..................inch.
One short-lived manager that I wish was given more time was Spackman.
One short-lived manager that I wish was given more time was Spackman.
Peters had the biggest budget in the then-third division, the best squad, and the best supporters. We were favourites for promotion.
But in his single season in charge he managed to get us relegated to the 4th division instead. It's got to be Peters, surely.
Haslam's record was dire, but the fans loved him for some reason. I remember an end-of-season game at Grimsby where the fans would not leave until Haslam came out at the end. He was then showered with scarves while the fans sang "There's only one Happy Harry". There were tears in his eyes that day.
But in his single season in charge he managed to get us relegated to the 4th division instead. It's got to be Peters, surely.
Haslam's record was dire, but the fans loved him for some reason. I remember an end-of-season game at Grimsby where the fans would not leave until Haslam came out at the end. He was then showered with scarves while the fans sang "There's only one Happy Harry". There were tears in his eyes that day.
Silent Blade
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Despite the good season we had in 1974-75, I thought the football we played under Furphy was dull compared with what it was under John Harris. His best signing was Jim Brown. Tony Field was ok and there were flashes of brilliance from him during 1974-75 and he had the knack of being in right place and right time to get to the end of TC or Woody passes but his all round play wasnt that consistent enough(he was weak and his creative or defensive play was poor for a 1st division player). There were more quality in our team under John Harris in 1973 than under Furphy in 1974-75 (Salmons left before the 1974-75 season) but Furphy had "more luck" with the results than Harris had
Silent Blade
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His timing to quit as manager was really lousy. When Donachie left he didnt have "the bottle" to find a replacement and fight on
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I agree, I think he had as good a chance as any to take us up before one of the worst days I can remember as a United fan.
To be fair, any manager in the world would resign if the board decided to sell your two key strikers on the same day without you knowing.
Muttley
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Heath...and Peters . Both seriously furked up in the few months they had in charge.
Peters became manager around two thirds of the way through the 80-81 season after Haslam finally called it a day. We were lower mid table at that stage and any chance of promotion had long gone, with there being an outside possibility of relegation. Peters didn't have a big budget (unlike Haslam), the only player he bought was Don Givens for around £10K.
In the end Peters only won 3 games out of 16 and we went down. However I still think Haslam was a worse manager - he had left us looking at the possibility of relegation to the 4th having, 3 years previously taken over a team in the top half of the second. With the experience he had (he had taken Luton from the third to the First Division) and the budget he had that was a scandalous performance.
Peters' performance was poor, but given that he had no money and no experience, I can't see it was as bad, comparatively, as Haslam's.
themaninblack
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Happy Harry was definitely the worst in my time. Talking of Field and Garbett, wasnt Tommy Docherty referring to them when he dismissed the Blades by saying 'you buy third division players and you get a third division team'?
Fiery Blade
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As it is now going back some years and my memory is diminishing on a daily basis I thought that Peters had taken over when Harry Haslam was seriously ill. I also believe that due to his ill health Haslam never worked again and died shortly afterwards _ Stand to be corrected on this !
Silent Blade
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I remember reading about Haslam describing the pain he had one night during the 1978-79 season. He was suffering from stomach ulcers and he thought he was going to die that night so he kept on smoking as he wanted to die while enjoying having a smoke.
I detest smoking and find it difficult to understand Haslam's wishes!
Ballinpigpubs13
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For me , Heath. End of.
Was at Maine road under Heath's reign, we lost 0-6 and the Shity fans were laughing at us. Gutting experience. Left well before the end.
Was at Maine road under Heath's reign, we lost 0-6 and the Shity fans were laughing at us. Gutting experience. Left well before the end.
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God, we'd die for a team as dull as that one.
Don't listen to him folks - the best United team in the last 40 years, bar none, was managed by Furphy.
Aesthetically and statistically.
happyhippy
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In my honest opinion, I have to say Barny Sornob. Nobody else had the relative bounty which he had, and squandered so spectacularly in such a predictably poor way.
The Haslam and Peters era was a pretty steep dive, and so I don't mind Porterfield's recovery, with the obvious exception of him being a former pig player. At least he did win the Cup against the dirties in red and white stripes .....
McEwan has to be up there, but I also hold up Kendall as an example. Don't get me wrong. It wasn't his fault, and he did nearly take us to unbelievable heights after a dodgy start (2nd bottom when he took over, and no win in 7(?), except Carl Veart's header v Arsenal?). Reaching the Play-Off Final was a major achievement after the end of Bassett's reign, when he looked tired and beaten by Brealey.
What he also was allowed to do was gamble (á la Sornob) a huge amount to get us up. We saw the effects of that for a decade afterwards. We played some nice stuff, don't get me wrong, and Cowans was a majesty in midfield, but all of a sudden Everton came calling, and we were left rudderless again.
A succession of managers in the short term came in then who had as many debits as credits. Spackman reminded me of Francis at Hellsbore, where he had an established squad already. We played some exquisite stuff under him, but that was Pisshead's work, not Nigel. Swap Fat Ron for Trevor, and you'll get my point.
Thompson was never going to be up to it, and Bruce wasn't given a proper crack of the whip. Heath was welcomed(ish) after he'd saved Burnley from the drop after Waddle's terrible tenancy, but was a disaster, which then brings us to St Neil and King Kev II.
Things are certainly not right now, but I can think of worse times.
The Haslam and Peters era was a pretty steep dive, and so I don't mind Porterfield's recovery, with the obvious exception of him being a former pig player. At least he did win the Cup against the dirties in red and white stripes .....
McEwan has to be up there, but I also hold up Kendall as an example. Don't get me wrong. It wasn't his fault, and he did nearly take us to unbelievable heights after a dodgy start (2nd bottom when he took over, and no win in 7(?), except Carl Veart's header v Arsenal?). Reaching the Play-Off Final was a major achievement after the end of Bassett's reign, when he looked tired and beaten by Brealey.
What he also was allowed to do was gamble (á la Sornob) a huge amount to get us up. We saw the effects of that for a decade afterwards. We played some nice stuff, don't get me wrong, and Cowans was a majesty in midfield, but all of a sudden Everton came calling, and we were left rudderless again.
A succession of managers in the short term came in then who had as many debits as credits. Spackman reminded me of Francis at Hellsbore, where he had an established squad already. We played some exquisite stuff under him, but that was Pisshead's work, not Nigel. Swap Fat Ron for Trevor, and you'll get my point.
Thompson was never going to be up to it, and Bruce wasn't given a proper crack of the whip. Heath was welcomed(ish) after he'd saved Burnley from the drop after Waddle's terrible tenancy, but was a disaster, which then brings us to St Neil and King Kev II.
Things are certainly not right now, but I can think of worse times.
happyhippy
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Two penalties, and no keeper after 1-0. We were absolute bobbar, but the main atmosphere was about Heath, not our performance. I think we let three in in the last 15 miutes or so. It wasn't pleasant, I grant you, but nothing like Sornob.
happyhippy
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'Happy' Harry Haslam died a few years after his tenure at the Lane in 1986. I think you're right that he never worked in football again.
The Who Blade
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The team may not have been dull, but this team talk when he was Watford manager certainly was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayTfr86RiK4
Love the player having a fag at 2:19s
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