Bert, The Box Office and Eleven Hundred Quid.

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Unlucky Bert I know of two people who missed the deadline - in their case around 2 weeks - and who got the full discount (they would not have renewed otherwise). Sometimes it's who you know and one rule for one etc.

The bigger issue is why stop selling season tickets in April and have a four month dead period when you give up. I run a business and would not dream of shutting up shop for around a third of the year.

The fact is we knew we wouldn't shift any STs after the deadline. It's also the case we knew we'd lose thousands of ST holders for the second season running.

Sadly we failed to come up with any dynamic way of addressing the problem other than the same old.

It's going to be much harder attracting back the 9,000 ST holders we have lost than it would have been to keep them.
 

The one that springs to mind for me, is a guy down Leicester way, he never stops asking, more front than Woolworths as they use to say.

Drives a Sport Range Rover, company name embossed in the leather headrests, never misses a chance to shave points off the price, never ....

Interesting. I have to say that no number of Range Rovers would compensate me for living a life like that. Each to their own.

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It is a matter of always trying to come out on top and never over paying. Bert has thrived on it for years. It's what pays for his snifters in his Gentleman's Club

Fair enough. I am not bothered about always coming out on top (apart from when it comes to arguments on here, obviously) and not that concerned if I get overcharged now and then. Swings and roundabouts etc. That personality difference is probably at the root of this disagreement :-)
 
Great!

I now get the chance to boast that my daughter is a fully paid up member of the Oxford Union (paid by me I should add). It runs in the family....

I'm actually charging this time to that case of yours I am doing involving the goat and the tub of marge...

I had a suspicion that messing about with the goat wasn't entirley permissible under UK law, my real downfall was not knowing that margarine's illegal in this country.
 
Unlucky Bert I know of two people who missed the deadline - in their case around 2 weeks - and who got the full discount (they would not have renewed otherwise). Sometimes it's who you know and one rule for one etc.

The bigger issue is why stop selling season tickets in April and have a four month dead period when you give up. I run a business and would not dream of shutting up shop for around a third of the year.

The fact is we knew we wouldn't shift any STs after the deadline. It's also the case we knew we'd lose thousands of ST holders for the second season running.

Sadly we failed to come up with any dynamic way of addressing the problem other than the same old.

It's going to be much harder attracting back the 9,000 ST holders we have lost than it would have been to keep them.

Bert will be better off next season, he misses too many games these days and it will be cheaper to pay just for the games that he goes to. Like he said the club is the loser not Bert but if they had wanted Bert's eleven hundred quid they could have had it.

It's laughable realy that they offer the "discount" before the season ends and before you know which division we will be playing in. It's hard to think of any other business that operates like that.
 
I am not bothered about always coming out on top


Not what Bert would want to hear from his solicitor.
 
Bert will be better off next season, he misses too many games these days and it will be cheaper to pay just for the games that he goes to. Like he said the club is the loser not Bert but if they had wanted Bert's eleven hundred quid they could have had it.

It's laughable realy that they offer the "discount" before the season ends and before you know which division we will be playing in. It's hard to think of any other business that operates like that.

Email directly to [email protected] and give her the specific details of your reason for missing the deadline, your seat numbers, number of years as a season ticket holder etc and a little note re £1100 quid. She is an excellent person who will take your requst to the powers that be.

It's your best bet.
 
I am not bothered about always coming out on top


Not what Bert would want to hear from his solicitor.

Good job I am not your solicitor then.

You do have a point though. My general zen like approach to life in general does conflict with the somehwat dog eat dog world of litigation. However, given I have been doing the job for 15 years and win more cases than I lose, it can't be that serious a conflict.
 
Must be nice driving it to the Farm House Retreat in France though ......

Not when he has to stop every few miles to fill the Range Rover with premium petrol... good luck negotiating a better deal with Shell :)
 
Bert is now retired, he has spent a lifetime grafting and now he is a gentleman of leisure.
The other two are Bert Jnr and H (The Enforcer). When Bert rang H today to tell him about the club's responce his answer was "Well they can bollocks"

Congratulations on your well-earned retirement Bert. Can we assume that both Bert Jnr and H(The Enforcer) have also been holidaying in Cuba since March 4th?
If that's not the case, maybe one of them could simply have nipped down to The Box Office anytime before mid-April.
That would have saved you the trouble of contacting The Box Office in June and the expense of ringing H (who's also in Cuba?) with the bad news.
Season tickets in the bag at discounted prices. Celebratory snifters all round. ;)
 
Bert will be better off next season, he misses too many games these days and it will be cheaper to pay just for the games that he goes to. Like he said the club is the loser not Bert but if they had wanted Bert's eleven hundred quid they could have had it.

It's laughable realy that they offer the "discount" before the season ends and before you know which division we will be playing in. It's hard to think of any other business that operates like that.

Try sending them a signed, dated cheque for the discounted amount? That might be more tempting than a 'mere' call.
 
All this bollocks about being out of the country for the last few weeks. If you were in the UK on 18 March, you obviously knew then when the deadline was, as you would have received emails, letters and read about it on here, so could have popped a cheque in the post before you left the country. As someone who is often out of the country, it's never stopped me getting any ticket I've needed for a game ever. Just needs a bit of planning. This retirement lark has obviously made you less efficient.
 
I am not bothered about always coming out on top


Not what Bert would want to hear from his solicitor.

Could your solicitor not have bought it for you.

Could Bert Jnr, or H the enforcer not bought it for you.

If my mate the stunted mutant with half a brain can purchase his season ticket before deadline day, then why can't you?
 

If Bert can retire ,driving his range Rover down farm tracks and taking a couple of months off to Cuba ,surely the couple of hundred quid wouldn't really be noticeable.
 
Cuba, would have cost about two hundred quid to use a mobile and get through to the Box Office.

Couldn't someone else have filled in a direct debit form for you? Additional cost of roughly £15 per ticket. Unless of course all the people you were getting tickets for were in Cuba with you, and you know nobody else in the world. And were you all in Cuba from the moment the club put renewals on sale until after the deadline? Because if you're away that long then getting a season ticket is a false economy anyway.


Bert isn't whinging, like he said it's their loss not Bert's

If Bert's not whinging then why did Bert bother to start a thread about the subject?

If Bert is so astute then perhaps Bert should have renewed before the deadline, which last time I looked wasn't one of these twenty minute sales or a quick affair like a car auction but in fact lasted for several weeks. Like the year before. And the year before that, and I, sorry, SV believes that this has happened for quite a few years now and isn't something that should take such an astute business man by complete surprise like it appears to have done this year.
 
If you have ever been to Cuba you would know why your suggestion of applying online is laughable and also if you weren't such an arse you would be able to see that Bert isn't whinging he is merely pointing out the lack of business accumen shown by the club.

I'd say the club showed some great business acumen. A club in free-fall managed to sell over 10,000 season tickets before the inevitable relegation was confirmed. They're probably rubbing their hands as we speak.
 
Renew early = discount. January Sales = discount.
Would you have the shops hold their sale open just for you? Do you demand a ferry waiting at Dover on the off chance you might want a trip to France one day? Renew late = pay full whack. What makes you special enough to renew whenever you fancy it? Unless of course you are special and different other than just posting in the third person.

SV doesn't think so, but SV had the presence of mind to renew early.

Sheffield United season ticket purchase does not = DFS Sale opening hours. Deadline gone. Them's the breaks.


My experience of making major purchases from a shop is that they are actually very flexible on price, sale or no sale.

£1100 is a lot of money. I think that qualifies as a major purchase. It equates to a nice 3 piece suite, or a very high quality piece of hi fi equipment. You can even get a fairly tidy old second hand car for that money. Almost without exception you will get a discount on the advertised price.

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Would you have, say, Debenhams or John Lewis hold some of their stock back for those who couldn't make the January sales? And as JohnDenver says, what do you say to the bloke behind bert in the queue? Or the bloke behind him? Either the deadline stands, for everyone, or there is no point in having one. What about those who renewed early?


If you made an offer on something costing over £1000 at any of those shops outside of any sale dates, I am pretty confident they would be prepared to compromise on the price.

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considering Deadline was 17th April and it now 2nd June did Bert think his couple of weeks holiday excuse didn't have any f***ing flaws in it :)


It doesn't seem to me that Bert was making an excuse. If I remember rightly he states in his initial post that missing the deadline was his own fault. He was just making the point that the club is now at least £1100 down by being inflexible (and in my opinion by not operating in the same way as many other retail businesses).

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On that basis I'd be interested to know if, when Bert goes to Tesco, Sainsburys, Waitrose or wherever, whether, as a businessman., he tries to negotiate the price down on every item he takes through the checkout and, if he does, how many supermarkets he has been banned from :-)


In Tesco, Sainsburys, Waitrose etc you are making numerous very low value purchases. Bert was offering to make a high value purchase. Go to any furniture store, car forecourt, electrical retailer etc, show interest in something for that price and I'm sure you're odds on to get a discount.

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Interesting point. I suppose it depends what sort of person you are. I think a lot of people (me included), would find it pretty to draining to be always looking to save a few quid on every purchase. Other people obviously thrive on it. The latter tend to be rich :-)

It's not every purchase. I don't think anyone (Bert included) is arguing that they would ask for discounts for small , everyday purchases like those you make at supermarkets. SE10 Blades is talking about major purchases of the sort you only make once in a while.

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QUOTE=Sothall_Blade;342853]Most Blades fans won't pop down the road to Hillsborough if they can get a better price?[/QUOTE]

No, but they might choose to not go at all.[

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I'd say the club showed some great business acumen. A club in free-fall managed to sell over 10,000 season tickets before the inevitable relegation was confirmed. They're probably rubbing their hands as we speak.

Ah, but it could have been 10003!
 
Email directly to [email protected] and give her the specific details of your reason for missing the deadline, your seat numbers, number of years as a season ticket holder etc and a little note re £1100 quid. She is an excellent person who will take your requst to the powers that be.

It's your best bet.

Indeed !! This young lady is one of the few employees at BDTBL with more than an ounce of sense . You're going to need your STH status to aquire the cup(s) run tickets Bert . (yes, I know....but SOMEONE has got to be the eternal optomist around here these days !! ):fatbastard:

Ps .. it's sill cheaper than the 60 euros to watch Auxerre play a cat 3 game !!!
 
Renew early = discount. January Sales = discount.
Would you have the shops hold their sale open just for you? Do you demand a ferry waiting at Dover on the off chance you might want a trip to France one day? Renew late = pay full whack. What makes you special enough to renew whenever you fancy it? Unless of course you are special and different other than just posting in the third person.

SV doesn't think so, but SV had the presence of mind to renew early.

Sheffield United season ticket purchase does not = DFS Sale opening hours. Deadline gone. Them's the breaks.

bang on SV,its not like the club annouced the discount two days before the deadline,the club has to draw a line somewhere. harsh but thats life sometimes
 
why does Bert talk in the third person? Is he some sort of idiot? Either support tehe blades and buy a ticket or he should shut up.
 
Ps .. it's sill cheaper than the 60 euros to watch Auxerre play a cat 3 game !!!

And much cheaper than watching a single Canucks game in the Stanley Cup finals... that last bit felt good to write. Tickets ranges from 200 to 700 quid for each game.

Winnipeg just got an NHL team and the top price season tickets are $7800 for 41 games a season. That's about 120 quid a game.
 
Bert is now retired, he has spent a lifetime grafting and now he is a gentleman of leisure.

The other two are Bert Jnr and H (The Enforcer). When Bert rang H today to tell him about the club's response his answer was "Well they can bollocks"

Shocking - I can't believe the club didn't give you a longer deadline than everyone else. And H sounds like a right Blade.
 
Bert is a (very successful) wind up merchant. Well done Bert !

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Oh and Vancouver......good luck in the Stanley Cup. Left it until the last minute last night didn't they !! We watch the Washington Capitals occasionally and the ticket prices have to be seen to be believed, paying 300 quid for a Season ticket for the Blades when we return to England will be pleasurable by comparison.
And the July friendly between Man Utd (reserves) and Barcelona (reserves) in Washington has tickets ranging from $40 (very few, all long sold out) to $700. Cheapest available when I thought about buying some last week were $155, I didn't bother !
 
Off nose spite face your cutting to your. SV a little test for you, sort the jumbled words and you will see what the club are doing. There is an exception to every rule. Bert's argument sounds quite reasonable to me. If I were now running a company, and that amount of money and customer loyalty were at stake, I would pick up the phone and snatch His Bertship's hand off. After all our owner has been known to pick up the phone to call suppoorters himself,whether or not they were regular suporters. I'm sure Bert will find some other way to spend his money.
 
Bert's argument sounds quite reasonable to me.

Not to me. If it got out that you could get a discount on season tickets because youve been on holiday and missed the deadline by serveral weeks Bramall Lane would be inundated with calls from several thousand residents of Gleadless who have been unavoidably indisposed in Greneda.
 
Money is money my boy 50p but to you my son 45p

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why does Bert talk in the third person? Is he some sort of idiot? Either support tehe blades and buy a ticket or he should shut up.

At least, idiot or not, Bert is able to spell "the" correctly.
 
Great!

I now get the chance to boast that my daughter is a fully paid up member of the Oxford Union (paid by me I should add). It runs in the family....

I'm actually charging this time to that case of yours I am doing involving the goat and the tub of marge...

I love you, Darren.
 

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