Benjamin Bloom on United's Start "No chance the Blades go down"

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KMC-1889 said:
I do get the Selles appointment, I look at other teams playing what he was trying to play and I like it. The problem is the squad that has been built is incredibly poor, covered by some staggering over performance in the first part of last season.

The fact no one running the club could spot this is very worrying, or even worse, they can spot the issues and are incapable of addressing them.
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The problem with Selles was he was a poor manager sacked by Hull for being poor. Why we pushed all our chips behind him was complete madness.
 

Sheffsteel said:
Being realistic…..since Wilder has returned we’re not massively different to last season.

Last season we had plenty of 50/50 ish, we found a formula where we’d score from a moment of quality…then we sat back quite negative parking the bus but it worked because we consistently prevented the opposition from creating chances.

I know we gained 90+ points but I was a little concerned about the negative but pragmatic style, after taking the lead.
Overall thought we were quite lucky in matches but it can’t be luck over 46 matches….and as they say it’s the results that count not the performances.

This season…again plenty of 50/50ish matches, in fact we’ve been pretty good around the centre circle areas passing it sideways keeping possession.
However we never seem to create chances, opposition teams seem to sit deep parking the bus against us and all the goal mouth scrambles go to their player.
You can say we’ve been unlucky but no team can be so unlucky so often…so it’s not bad luck.

If mid table is 12th…I reckon we’ll finish around 15th. It will be great to see Arblaster back.

However a factor that I don’t think many are considering is the January transfer window 2026.
The last few seasons we’ve always had a small transfer kitty to make improvements, so I reckon most Blades will expect us to strengthen.
However we lose £35 million in parachute payments next season….so if we receive any large bids for Hamer, Cooper, Arblaster etc
Then it will be really tempting to accept and we won’t be able to use the funds to bring in new players on decent salaries.
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I think you're being very generous to this season's team.

I don't think it's been 50/50 in most of our games.

I keep coming back to ..

Anel, Souttar, Souza & JRS walk into 21/24 first XIs last season.
Their replacements are nowhere near that level.

Our subs bench the night we beat Coventry 3-1.
A Davies, McCallum, Gilchrist, Holding, Brooks, O'Hare, Rak-Sakyi, Moore, Cannon.
And we had Tom Davies and Vini Souza out injured.

The likes of Chong, McGuinness, Mee, Matos, Soumaré, Ings etc. are huge downgrades.

We're in a relegation battle.
 
mattbianco1 said:
2ppg until the end of the season is a comfortable Play Offs finish
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I meant goals, god knows why I put points.

But after making that cock up I thought I’d take a look, we need an average of 1.3 points per game to survive, based on last season. So for every three games we need to win at least one and draw the other.

We’ve managed one win in nine, one in 4 under the new boss.

I don’t know how many more ways I can demonstrate we aren’t getting out of this.
 
KMC-1889 said:
I meant goals, god knows why I put points.

But after making that cock up I thought I’d take a look, we need an average of 1.3 points per game to survive, based on last season. So for every three games we need to win at least one and draw the other.

We’ve managed one win in nine, one in 4 under the new boss.

I don’t know how many more ways I can demonstrate we aren’t getting out of this.
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We are getting out of it. We are far too good to go down.

We'll finish 5th to 11th
 
KMC-1889 said:
I meant goals, god knows why I put points.

But after making that cock up I thought I’d take a look, we need an average of 1.3 points per game to survive, based on last season. So for every three games we need to win at least one and draw the other.

We’ve managed one win in nine, one in 4 under the new boss.

I don’t know how many more ways I can demonstrate we aren’t getting out of this.
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We aren’t getting out of this easily.

It’s going to take a huge effort to extract ourselves from the malaise and that’s before we begin to chip away at the gap, crawl out of the bottom three, and then stake a claim for survival.

We’re in a 12 foot deep and 20 foot diameter shell hole 1/3 full of water with slippery mud on the sides and no hand or foot holes. Individuals having a tame go at climbing out on their own then giving up and feeling sorry for themselves.

Bollocks required.
 
To reach 50 points this season (survival), we will need to average 1.27 points per game.

Over the course of a season 1.27 points per game would get you 58 points which last season would have got you a top half finish (Sheff Weds - 12th).

To survive, we need to become a decent midtable team from here out.

It is achievable, but it's the maximum I feel like I can reasonably expect based on what I've seen.
Anybody that still harbours hopes of the play-offs is living in Dreamland.

It's pretty gut wrenching when I remember how excited I was at HT at Wembley.
 
I see teams that are “too good” and they create chances, score goals and show signs that they’re going to improve.

We haven’t done anything to suggest we can turn this situation around just yet. We don’t create chances, we don’t score goals and we can’t defend crosses or high balls.

We also have the spine of a jellyfish running throughout the team. We look like a thrown together set of individuals and rely far too much on 1 player to create anything for us, he’s been average at best this season.

It’s possible we turn this around but it’s not the given that some supporters seem to think it is. It requires effort, determination, fitness and skill. These have all been in short supply thus far.
 
In the last few seasons under both wilder and Heckingbottom we have performed better than expected.

This has been in part due to the quality of some of the loans we were able to bring in
such as Gibbs White, Souttarr, Doyle and even Rak Saki.

We do not have these type of players on loan now added to which we do not have players with the quality of Ndiye or Sousa

I do worry therefore whether this squad is as good as some people are making out

My view is that we might just survive but it will be close
 
Bottom 8 in the Championship in

Shots
Shots on target (24th)
Goals per shot
Goals per shot on target
Key passes (pass leading to a shot)
Completed crosses
Shot creating actions
Tackles won in the defensive 3rd
Tackles won %
Blocks
Errors made
Successful dribbles
Miscontrols
Fouls committed
 
Selles was a disaster but losing Anel and Sousa together with releasing Moore and losing some loan players has definitely shaped the squad up to struggle.

With Tangaga and Mee two excellent defenders shapes the defence better but midfield we look desperate in defending and creating.

Then with having 1 striker up front who seems pissed off to be here I think we are set to have a bad season.
 
Carlton Blade said:
Bottom 8 in the Championship in

Shots
Shots on target (24th)
Goals per shot
Goals per shot on target
Key passes (pass leading to a shot)
Completed crosses
Shot creating actions
Tackles won in the defensive 3rd
Tackles won %
Blocks
Errors made
Successful dribbles
Miscontrols
Fouls committed
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Top 6 in
Progressive carries
Carries into the penalty area (1st)
Progressive distance
Touches in the attacking 3rd
Touches in the penalty area
Overall touches
Shots created from set pieces
Corners
Short passes
 

We are getting the ball into the final 3rd, then are pathetic when we get there.

For all Wilder's good points, building teams that create lots of chances is very much not on the list. It's going to be a slog all season. There's zero evidence in the past, or now that this squad with this manager will start scoring freely
 
Carlton Blade said:
Top 6 in
Progressive carries
Carries into the penalty area (1st)
Progressive distance
Touches in the attacking 3rd
Touches in the penalty area
Overall touches
Shots created from set pieces
Corners
Short passes
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How does that change if you only look at the last 4 games?
 
Sheffsteel said:
Being realistic…..since Wilder has returned we’re not massively different to last season.

Last season we had plenty of 50/50 ish, we found a formula where we’d score from a moment of quality…then we sat back quite negative parking the bus but it worked because we consistently prevented the opposition from creating chances.

I know we gained 90+ points but I was a little concerned about the negative but pragmatic style, after taking the lead.
Overall thought we were quite lucky in matches but it can’t be luck over 46 matches….and as they say it’s the results that count not the performances.

This season…again plenty of 50/50ish matches, in fact we’ve been pretty good around the centre circle areas passing it sideways keeping possession.
However we never seem to create chances, opposition teams seem to sit deep parking the bus against us and all the goal mouth scrambles go to their player.
You can say we’ve been unlucky but no team can be so unlucky so often…so it’s not bad luck.

If mid table is 12th…I reckon we’ll finish around 15th. It will be great to see Arblaster back.

However a factor that I don’t think many are considering is the January transfer window 2026.
The last few seasons we’ve always had a small transfer kitty to make improvements, so I reckon most Blades will expect us to strengthen.
However we lose £35 million in parachute payments next season….so if we receive any large bids for Hamer, Cooper, Arblaster etc
Then it will be really tempting to accept and we won’t be able to use the funds to bring in new players on decent salaries.
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Based on their performances this season, anyone stark raving bonkers enough to make a large bid for Cooper or Hamer deserves their arms ripping off!!
 
Kenilworth said:
We aren’t getting out of this easily.

It’s going to take a huge effort to extract ourselves from the malaise and that’s before we begin to chip away at the gap, crawl out of the bottom three, and then stake a claim for survival.

We’re in a 12 foot deep and 20 foot diameter shell hole 1/3 full of water with slippery mud on the sides and no hand or foot holes. Individuals having a tame go at climbing out on their own then giving up and feeling sorry for themselves.

Bollocks required.
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From the players and the fanbase.
 
League 1 over the past 25 years has been littered with team that were "too good to go down" or where there was "no chance they go down".

There is every chance we go down if we don't start picking up some bloody points...
 
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CaptainMorgans said:
I think you're being very generous to this season's team.

I don't think it's been 50/50 in most of our games.

I keep coming back to ..

Anel, Souttar, Souza & JRS walk into 21/24 first XIs last season.
Their replacements are nowhere near that level.

Our subs bench the night we beat Coventry 3-1.
A Davies, McCallum, Gilchrist, Holding, Brooks, O'Hare, Rak-Sakyi, Moore, Cannon.
And we had Tom Davies and Vini Souza out injured.

The likes of Chong, McGuinness, Mee, Matos, Soumaré, Ings etc. are huge downgrades.

We're in a relegation battle.
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have to disagree with Ben Mee and possibly Ings. If they can both stay fit they will be valuable additions.

The rest are garbage.
 
Thrice said:
In previous years the club was pretty good at acquiring players that actually improved the team. Especially the loan market was used very effectively bringing in players like MGW, McAtee, JRS, etc.
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case at all this year. None of the new players (especially in attack) have shown anything so far that gets you hopeful.
Having someone like JRS right now would be an absolute game changer.
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All done before Wilder returned so he was left with what he's got till the window in January.
Sellers is to blame for letting g Moore go! Just what kind of forward line was he creating! The mind boggles !!.
The mistakes COHsports have made are quite something.! Has anyone heard of a company hiring an employee without an interview first ?
You have now COH yes! experienced businessmen acting like novices! or did they think normal rules don't apply to football ! Just amazing !!
 
finlaytheblade said:
All done before Wilder returned so he was left with what he's got till the window in January.
Sellers is to blame for letting g Moore go! Just what kind of forward line was he creating! The mind boggles !!.
The mistakes COHsports have made are quite something.! Has anyone heard of a company hiring an employee without an interview first ?
You have now COH yes! experienced businessmen acting like novices! or did they think normal rules don't apply to football ! Just amazing !!
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That really is strange and I almost can't believe it.
 
KMC-1889 said:
I meant goals, god knows why I put points.

But after making that cock up I thought I’d take a look, we need an average of 1.3 points per game to survive, based on last season. So for every three games we need to win at least one and draw the other.

We’ve managed one win in nine, one in 4 under the new boss.

I don’t know how many more ways I can demonstrate we aren’t getting out of this.
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On present margins we are doomed!
We are capable of the 1.3 points per game needed to stay up.
Judging performances! In my opinion the defensive side to our game is good enough that alone is not enough! It's obviouse our strike rate has to improve .Selling Moore without a replacement was crazy ! Ive Said it before just what kind of forward line was Sellers trying to built?.
Haa to be 2 upfront ! No reason 1 could play a deeper roll when required
(false 9) I think Marshy could do the job. Mcbernie could and did do that job.
Marsh although hasn't the physicality of Mcbernie has all the other attributes .
 
Paulus said:
Biggest (of many) mistakes over the summer was letting K Moore go. Need to replace him with a similar player in January and all will be well. He gave us a focus in attack which we just don't have now.
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If you play one up front you need ideally a Drogba type.

Whilst Moore didn’t have his pace, he did have a physical presence.

You can’t escape the fact that football is about physically competing as well as skill.

I’m surprised Sellés got as far as he has in his managerial career without seemingly understanding that. Though I suppose the two teams he’d managed before us would have been categorised under “a drowning man will grab a straw”.
 

1066blade said:
We're too good to go down, there, I've said it. I know we're shit at the minute, but our quality will ensure survival. Horrible to even use words like 'survival' after last seasons epic assault. But there we are. Onwards and upwards my blades.
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West Ham went down with Defoe, Carrick, Cole etc.

Leeds also dropped with Viduka, Robinson, Harte etc.

Players can be as good as they like, if they ain't got the heart we ain't staying up. So far I'm seeing a piss weak mentality from United.
 
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