Ben Whiteman

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I agree and ideally we need to develop a South Yorkshire academy to nick all of the youngers from this area.

It will be interesting to see where this new area is for a new facility that the club has hinted at recently and exactly what plans we have for it.

I'm also interested to know why Aidy Boothroyd is here - "Coach Mentor and Consultant" is his official title and considering he's been on the FA staff, perhaps he's consulting on CAT 1 academy status.

The pigs don't have any money and are still in a continuing decline (think we all hope they haven't bottomed out yet), but a S Yorks focus could bring in players like John Stones who went through Barnsley's academy, so ideally we could be able to corner the entire County.

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We’ll struggle to completely dominate South Yorkshire in terms of youth recruitment as Leeds have already gone cat one and they’re active across the whole of yorkshire. In addition to that both the Manchester and Liverpool clubs are incredibly active in Sheffield and Yorkshire as a whole cherry picking the best young lads.

Cat one won’t help us to reverse the tide when it comes to those clubs but what it will do is allow us to keep hold of the best of our own youngsters and we lose a couple every year from the youngest age groups. What it would do is seriously undermine the productive Barnsley set up and Wednesday may as well pack it in but they may as well do that now really.

Gives us scope to go and recruit nationwide though like Norwich and Villa have been in recent years. Going Cat one might not raise the ceiling of the academy products we produce as we’ve been good in that regard anyway Maguire, Walker, Brooks all really exceptional talents but it should increase the frequency with which we produce Championship quality players and that would go a long way in helping to build a squad.
 



Arblaster will be the next one to break into the 1st Team squad.

or Sydie Peck? - trained with the first team squad last week.

for sure it looks like we've got 3 or 4 that could come into the squad next season - all depends who departs to make way?

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Imo decent player but what a crap attitude!! Compare with Hamer, still professional and gets on with it regardless of speculation..

Ben is going to look silly if Wrexham don't cough up the asking price.
 
Preston must be the most boring team to play for.

Guaranteed to finish somewhere between 12th and 16th every season. Never in danger of challenging for the play offs or in real relegation danger
 
Preston must be the most boring team to play for.

Guaranteed to finish somewhere between 12th and 16th every season. Never in danger of challenging for the play offs or in real relegation danger
If we’re not careful we could be exactly the same couple with watching football consisting of no style of play, identity, tactics or plan.
Oh wait, that’s exactly what we are..
 



Noooooo. When Wilder goes they (coaching, recruitment etc) all need to go and we need to move forward properly. Hecky is a great guy but would be another backwards step.
Love how it's just spoken as fact that hiring a foreign manager that doesn't know the club (like Selles) is a step forwards, whereas Hecky would be a backwards step.

I want us to sign the best manager we can get. If they're from Yorkshire then so be it.
 
Good football man Hecky. No airs and graces, no bullshit, just a genuine bloke and somebody who knows the game inside out.
Personally I think that he was hung out to dry that season with the squad and lack of investment. He should have been given the chance to keep the job and go again.
 
Wrexham are such a weird club.

Probably the richest and best backed club outside the premier league / parachute clubs and buy someone like Whiteman.

He’s a decent mid championship utility style midfielder.

Parkinson is holding them back so much.
 
Wrexham are such a weird club.

Probably the richest and best backed club outside the premier league / parachute clubs and buy someone like Whiteman.

He’s a decent mid championship utility style midfielder.

Parkinson is holding them back so much.
If it were just one signing like this I could get behind it, they're just filling a specific gap in the squad without paying over the odds.

It's not though, every other signing they make looks the same.
 
Love how it's just spoken as fact that hiring a foreign manager that doesn't know the club (like Selles) is a step forwards, whereas Hecky would be a backwards step.

I want us to sign the best manager we can get. If they're from Yorkshire then so be it.
By who?

Hecky would be a backwards step, we got rid because he wasn't good enough.
 
By who?

Hecky would be a backwards step, we got rid because he wasn't good enough.
Or did we get rid because we gave him a crap squad in the top tier? Maybe he was too crap for us then, but maybe he isn't now? Maybe we have become more crap and are at his level? Maybe the alternatives are worse?

Perhaps he wasn't the right manager to deal with a hopeless relegation fight, but would be the right manager to get up promoted?
 
If it were just one signing like this I could get behind it, they're just filling a specific gap in the squad without paying over the odds.

It's not though, every other signing they make looks the same.
Exactly they’ve spent a fortune and clearly have more where it came from but haven’t made a single ‘shit I wish that was us signing’ all just shrug and move on.

They’ve probably got more money than when wolves had Nuno and signed the likes of Neves and Jota in the championship. Premier league budget and ambition with a league one (at best) dinosaur.

Parkinson was the national league equivalent of nuno and neves in the championship but now they’ve in the championship he’s not good enough to actually take them forward. After convective promotions they probably owed him a bit of loyalty but I wonder how long they’ll stick with it because much longer and they new fella will have hell of a job clearing out the 90’s Wimbledon cloggers before achieving anything
 
Exactly they’ve spent a fortune and clearly have more where it came from but haven’t made a single ‘shit I wish that was us signing’ all just shrug and move on.

They’ve probably got more money than when wolves had Nuno and signed the likes of Neves and Jota in the championship. Premier league budget and ambition with a league one (at best) dinosaur.

Parkinson was the national league equivalent of nuno and neves in the championship but now they’ve in the championship he’s not good enough to actually take them forward. After convective promotions they probably owed him a bit of loyalty but I wonder how long they’ll stick with it because much longer and they new fella will have hell of a job clearing out the 90’s Wimbledon cloggers before achieving anything
Spot on…. Think Parkinson will be sacked before Xmas. US owners of Wrexham, Brum, Burnley will expect promotion given their investment. So with Wolves, West Ham & Saints also expecting automatic - I think the trigger will be pulled early on a few of those managers this season.
 
Wrexham are such a weird club.

Probably the richest and best backed club outside the premier league / parachute clubs and buy someone like Whiteman.

He’s a decent mid championship utility style midfielder.

Parkinson is holding them back so much.

I do think its the Parkinson effect.
 
Wrexham are such a weird club.

Probably the richest and best backed club outside the premier league / parachute clubs and buy someone like Whiteman.

He’s a decent mid championship utility style midfielder.

Parkinson is holding them back so much.
Has parkinson been called a cunt before
 
Or did we get rid because we gave him a crap squad in the top tier? Maybe he was too crap for us then, but maybe he isn't now? Maybe we have become more crap and are at his level? Maybe the alternatives are worse?

Perhaps he wasn't the right manager to deal with a hopeless relegation fight, but would be the right manager to get up promoted?
He's hardly set the world alight since he left. He took over at perennially mid table Preston.. and finished mid table.

What's Blackwell up to nowadays? He had his moment, then he was crap. Maybe he isn't now?
 
He's hardly set the world alight since he left. He took over at perennially mid table Preston.. and finished mid table.
Agreed, he's done a decent job.
What's Blackwell up to nowadays? He had his moment, then he was crap. Maybe he isn't now?
Writing people off is the easiest and most common hobby of the fan. Truth is, particularly with managers, we don't have a fucking clue. You could pick out 100 "forward thinking" managers and they might all fail, and those you write off could end up achieving success as they had before.

There are so many factors fans rarely consider when judging a manager, and as fans we understand so little of what they actually do.

As much as managers like Warnock become a parody of themselves, they can be written off a million times and still manage to achieve miracles, as he did.
 



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