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Didn't go today, yes I know :)

How did Ben get on. I am guessing he was substituted so basham could give us more of a forward threat?
 



So is it correct that he can't go out on loan again this season?

Yep. It was hinted at by Wilder in his prematch interview when he was asked about the 4 he’d previously said as heading out on loan. He basically said that it might be three because we need to ensure we’ve covered all scenarios in the squad that might develop – given the cover elsewhere that suggested BH given CCV had left. It’s sort of like a year ago when Wilder didn’t want Reed heading out on loan in case injuries developed in midfield.
 
I thought he did ok considering he’d never played at that level. He is decent in the air (which you’d expect given his height) and he made a few good tackles. He was a bit wayward with a few passes, knocking them out of play, but the biggest weakness I saw was a lack of pace. He was easily beaten for pace tbh and that may be something that he can work on as he adjusts to a different tempo of football to what he’s been used to. But I wouldn’t depend on him in the first team as yet based on what I saw.
 
IMO it would be the correct decision to keep him here now CCV has gone back to spurs.

Having just 4 specialist centre halves here for 3 positions leaves little room for error in suspensions and injuries, and for me even if leonard can play there we look light without him. I suspect he's going to at least get on the bench occasionally between now and the end of the season.
 
I thought he looked decent. Didn't really put a foot wrong he didn't get up the pitch quite as much as we are used to but he will pick up on that as he gets game time and plays in our style and formation.

He should also be a threat from corners and free kicks as he towers above everyone.
I think it was a bit of a scrappy game and he did well with all the scrappy play so I wouldn't be to bothered if I was to see him start or come on as a sub in a league game.
 
He was fine.

I would've took Wright off and given him the full 90 minutes.

He seems to have bulked up in the few months he's been with us.

First thing I noticed that. He definitely looked skinnier last time I saw him.
 
I thought he looked decent. Didn't really put a foot wrong he didn't get up the pitch quite as much as we are used to but he will pick up on that as he gets game time and plays in our style and formation.

He should also be a threat from corners and free kicks as he towers above everyone.
I think it was a bit of a scrappy game and he did well with all the scrappy play so I wouldn't be to bothered if I was to see him start or come on as a sub in a league game.
Did OK in defensive situations but looked nervous when on the ball,so it was good to get his debut out of the way.
Wilder has said he's got the tools to be a good centre back,he needs to kick on now.
Not really ready for the first tea. Yet,yesterday will do his confidence a world of good.
 



Agree with the above, he did ok, didn’t look out of his depth.
 
Unless CW was actively looking to bring in another centre half (difficult to sell the 'you're coming in to be cover only' argument to potential loanees or their clubs) then I'm glad that we have been a little selfish and kept the lad for the duration on the season as cover for injuries.

I think it also comes with the benefit of having the lad involved in first team training, we get to work on his physicality and conditioning such as bulking him up and trying to add an extra yard of pace to his game. Hopefully we can then look to take stock again in the summer and either earmark him down as a potential first team player or we move him out on loan. I think CW will probably do the latter and would see a season long loan out to a decent division 1 side for the season as being beneficial to all parties.

The lads got potential but he's a work in progress only at this time. Given time, he could be our Aden Flint and save us a shite load of money. Hes only a young lad too.
 
At this stage he's still raw.
A big unit and definitely bulked up, however, like a lot of really big guys, he didn't seem to "jump his height", being beaten a couple of times by much smaller opponents.
I thought he was reasonably composed on the ball but as someone stated, got done on pace a couple of times.
However, a reasonable debut without being anywhere near outstanding.
Definitely needs more work before he can be "trusted".
 
I thought he did ok considering he’d never played at that level. He is decent in the air (which you’d expect given his height) and he made a few good tackles. He was a bit wayward with a few passes, knocking them out of play, but the biggest weakness I saw was a lack of pace. He was easily beaten for pace tbh and that may be something that he can work on as he adjusts to a different tempo of football to what he’s been used to. But I wouldn’t depend on him in the first team as yet based on what I saw.

This was alluded to by Wilder, but RCB isn’t really his ideal position – his squad role had been originally intended to be as an option in the middle of the three. Clearly visible in the deadline day Bleacher Report video. His lack of pace may be less exposed in the future in the middle, though realistically he’s third choice for that role.

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It's not the worst thing for him to stay here.

We can closely work on his conditioning, and he also has 4 very good guys to learn from with O'Connell, Stearman, Wright and Basham.

Maybe what he lacks a bit is aggression and toughness and Basham and O'Connell set a great example in that department.

Then Stearman and Wright are more the anticipating, thinking types with huge experience between them who'd be good mentors for any young defender.
 
Very noticeable that with Heneghan and Wright in the Basham/JOC roles we were much less of a threat going forward. It was only when Basham came forward that we really began to overload down the right, and there were several good attacks down that side. Neither Heneghan nor Wright have an attacking instinct, and that was one of the reasons that the game was dull for the first hour.
 
Very noticeable that with Heneghan and Wright in the Basham/JOC roles we were much less of a threat going forward. It was only when Basham came forward that we really began to overload down the right, and there were several good attacks down that side. Neither Heneghan nor Wright have an attacking instinct, and that was one of the reasons that the game was dull for the first hour.

It was the same at Ipswich. Wright’s a safe pair of hands in that position defensively, but if JOC is out with injury/suspension we’re never going to see Wright replace that contribution further up the pitch.
 
Very noticeable that with Heneghan and Wright in the Basham/JOC roles we were much less of a threat going forward. It was only when Basham came forward that we really began to overload down the right, and there were several good attacks down that side. Neither Heneghan nor Wright have an attacking instinct, and that was one of the reasons that the game was dull for the first hour.
Completely agree.

After a garbage first half a decent game of football broke out after the substitutions.

As others have said Heneghan looked decent and did nothing noticeably wrong but, with both him and Wright in the team it did stifle our attacking threat.
 
Might of been his debut and could argue that he was played out of position but he needs to seriously improve otherwise he most likely won’t be here in the summer. Shame he played today really as Donny wanted him due to their 3 centre backs getting injured in the past week but now he’s played for 2 clubs already this season so a loan deal won’t be possible.
 
As I said on the match thread, he did nothing wrong, but he was not racing forward into their half, like Bash was when he came on. He looks a proper "big lad" though, and very capable as a championship defender, if you just need someone to "defend".
 
As I said on the match thread, he did nothing wrong, but he was not racing forward into their half, like Bash was when he came on. He looks a proper "big lad" though, and very capable as a championship defender, if you just need someone to "defend".

Wilder did say that pushing forward isn’t really his game and that he was probably played out of position slightly by being on the right and not in the centre.
 
Might of been his debut and could argue that he was played out of position but he needs to seriously improve otherwise he most likely won’t be here in the summer. Shame he played today really as Donny wanted him due to their 3 centre backs getting injured in the past week but now he’s played for 2 clubs already this season so a loan deal won’t be possible.

What did he do wrong?
 
I thought that him and Lafferty looked absolutely fucked in the second half.

I wonder if they are of the pace of playing first team football at the minute
 



Might of been his debut and could argue that he was played out of position but he needs to seriously improve otherwise he most likely won’t be here in the summer. Shame he played today really as Donny wanted him due to their 3 centre backs getting injured in the past week but now he’s played for 2 clubs already this season so a loan deal won’t be possible.

What a ray of sunshine.
 

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