Being spied on by Hull fans...

[jezzablade]

An here's me thinking you weren't going to pick out the scant bits. Lol

I know but I didn't really just pointed out a few things I found obvious. the figures he used really hid the true picture as he glossed over two decades which I didn't bring up as he.is a decent guy and I sent him a personal note.
strangely despite my feelings about hull's fortunate position I like all three posters that have come on to defend their club. Including Tyger Tyger.

 

[B.Lade]

I'm a blade, but here's an argument for the hull fans. Prior to their recent period of success many young hullians might grow up and start supporting other more successful 'local' teams, Leeds being a prime example. The new stadium and promotions woke many up to the fact they did have a local team, the family friendly facilities made it more attractive for them to take their kids. Kids now grow up born and bred hull fans, not Leeds. Sounds like a success to me that regardless of who built the stadium. Better that than continue not paying the bills in a run down stadium and risk ending up like Scarborough surely?!

 

[Pedro Verde]

Im quite sure Hull fans are as passionate about their team as we are about The Blades
There were quite a few feisty encounters both on and off the pitch in the late 60s early 70s and even in to the 80s I do remember the Battle of Bramall Lane. Hull have had plenty of hard times just like us even worse than us at least we have never been locked out of our ground.
They have been unfortunate with owners in the past but what do you Hull fans think about the change of name that is proposed ?
At least your owner is not Vincent Tan !!

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

North yorks, soz about that, most unusual for us Umbersarders, we usually drop H's not add them

In winter, does it still snerrr on the Hessle Rerrrd?

 

[Wapping Blade]

In winter, does it still snerrr on the Hessle Rerrrd?

Nerrrr, urrrrnly on Bev Rerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Ah bless 'em, a fair old chip they have on their shoulders. How dare they, Premier League Hull Tigers, have to bother with a game with Sheffield United from Division 3. Perhaps we should do the decent thing and lay down and die... bit like they did recently against Newcastle perhaps?

Let's be right, they aren't a bad side, but hardly a surprise with the money the owner has chucked in. And by rights they should beat us. But if they think it will be a stroll then they're as fucking stupid as they sound.

As for the Hull fan coming on here with the 'small observation' about their attendances against ours, any reason you didn't choose a more recent season, like last for instance? No need to answer, I already know... promoted to the Prem and averaging what we are now in what until recently has been a cuntsoup of a season, outstanding effort.

Cuntsoup nice phrase , not mentioned in any Thesaurus I've looked at though

 

[Trigger Blade]

Nerrrr, urrrrnly on Bev Rerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd

The most impressive one I've heard is:-

Errrr, nerrrr, I brerrk my merbile pherrn on the Herrlderness Rerrrd

 

[United Aren't Back.]

As in the last rounds, from Villa onwards, I have told people who mention it, 'This game is a step too far and we will lose. But hey ho we have earned some valuable revenue for the club and enjoyed the run'. This is what I think inside too. The thing is, by saying that, no-one can have a go and in the unlikely event, so far so good, a very happy Blade. When a Leeds fan on Monday, through gritted teeth said to me 'You must be very pleased' I just said, 'Yeah it's OK but we'll lose against Hull.' It really pissed him off for some reason. I think because he couldn't tell everyone I was gloating
This is the same guy who when we were promoted to the Premier League in 2006 and they were in league one, said he never wanted to talk to me about football ever again. I had gloated that time

Never take notice of what a loiner says.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

For any Hull fans that may be reading this thread...

Spoiler

 

[Kev Gee]

For any Hull fans that may be reading this thread...

Spoiler

I sell very good pillows..............................


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[Swanseablade]

Sorry mate but Boothferry Park had some fantastic support, and we had some pretty crap gates too.

Hullbloke
In your view did the move to summer rugby have any impact on football attendances?
i.e. RL fans that wouldn't bother with footy when both were on at the same time of the year, suddenly having time to watch footy in the RL close season?

UTB
FTO

 

[Tyger tyger...]

Im quite sure Hull fans are as passionate about their team as we are about The Blades
There were quite a few feisty encounters both on and off the pitch in the late 60s early 70s and even in to the 80s I do remember the Battle of Bramall Lane. Hull have had plenty of hard times just like us even worse than us at least we have never been locked out of our ground.
They have been unfortunate with owners in the past but what do you Hull fans think about the change of name that is proposed ?
At least your owner is not Vincent Tan !!

Pedro, most HCFC fans are against the proposed name change including myself. Its a tricky one though because HCFC do need to raise more money than we currently are in order to stay where we are, Assem Allam (owner) has stated that he doesn't want to invest any more of his cash, (which is fair enough), I hope a compromise can be reached by perhaps exploring other ways of maximizing our income, the merchandizing side of things has been a shambles this season and could be massively improved upon. Its probably worth noting aswell that the more cash Allam puts in, then the more in debt we become, I believe he has put around 100 million in so far in the form of loans, which he charges the club 5% interest on.

 

[mattbianco1]

Are Brighton plastic?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Pedro, most HCFC fans are against the proposed name change including myself. Its a tricky one though because HCFC do need to raise more money than we currently are in order to stay where we are, Assem Allam (owner) has stated that he doesn't want to invest any more of his cash, (which is fair enough), I hope a compromise can be reached by perhaps exploring other ways of maximizing our income, the merchandizing side of things has been a shambles this season and could be massively improved upon. Its probably worth noting aswell that the more cash Allam puts in, then the more in debt we become, I believe he has put around 100 million in so far in the form of loans, which he charges the club 5% interest on.

If what you've described is true, then your club mate, have major, I mean humongous, problems!
Allam has got you by the short and curlies. Although selling shirts etc will bring in some additional income, remaining in the Premiership is fundamental to your survival. Not only is there a mountain in debt hanging over your head, you'll be paying a fortune in wages, and if you should ever fall into a relegation struggle and drop a division you'll find that you're unable to sustain such overheads and the whole show will come crumbling down around you. You're not alone fella, our local inbreds from S6 are in a similar position, although their debt is nowhere close to the one you've described.

Trouble is, what you've described is endemic throughout football. Many clubs reach for the stars and don't think about the consequences of their ambition. Let's hope your Chairman adopts a more conciliatory attitude, otherwise it's his way or the highway.

 

[hullbloke]

Hullbloke
In your view did the move to summer rugby have any impact on football attendances?
i.e. RL fans that wouldn't bother with footy when both were on at the same time of the year, suddenly having time to watch footy in the RL close season?

UTB
FTO

I believe rugby league sold out to be a summer sport to fill the SKY schedules whist the football season started again. Also the RL were in favour because they no longer had to clash with the football. They call it 'summer rugby' but soon realised they missed out on the lucrative Easter fixtures so the 'summer season' now actually starts in February. Personally I think it's a mickey mouse game and none of the RL fans I know have a good word to say about football and football supporters. They think they have the moral high ground and their game is more skilful. When we have Premier League players diving all over the place it is difficult to argue against them. As for skilful? When I was at school if you couldn't play football you were sent to join the lardarses at the back of the field playing rugby.
Football certainly effects rugby league attendances when the dates clash which isn't very often because of that.
There are a few who support football and rugby league in Hull but it's not that noticeable. Most RL fans pick one of the top four Premier League clubs to 'support' which I and others find strange.
In Sheffield you have the rivalry between yourselves and Wednesday. The rivalry in Hull is between City and the RL fans. Not only do the majority of Hull FC want City to lose every week they also want to prove to you that RL is the better game.
We often get the 'you've never won nowt' jibes comparing us to their 12 club franchised competition with no relegation or promotions.
Winning trophies in RL is relatively easy compared to football because the competition is so much smaller but try and explain that to a pub full of aled up RL fans.

 

[Tyger tyger...]

If what you've described is true, then your club mate, have major, I mean humongous, problems!
Allam has got you by the short and curlies. Although selling shirts etc will bring in some additional income, remaining in the Premiership is fundamental to your survival. Not only is there a mountain in debt hanging over your head, you'll be paying a fortune in wages, and if you should ever fall into a relegation struggle and drop a division you'll find that you're unable to sustain such overheads and the whole show will come crumbling down around you. You're not alone fella, our local inbreds from S6 are in a similar position, although their debt is nowhere close to the one you've described.

Trouble is, what you've described is endemic throughout football. Many clubs reach for the stars and don't think about the consequences of their ambition. Let's hope your Chairman adopts a more conciliatory attitude, otherwise it's his way or the highway.

Sadly this is all too true, we could be potentially looking at a Portsmouth type scenario, he (Allam) rightly or wrongly, has convinced himself that the rebranding would be well received in Asian and far eastern countries because the tiger is held in high esteem over in that neck of the woods, I don't think he will back down, not if his press releases are anything to go by, "nobody tells me how to run my businesses", or "they can die when they want", in response to the crowd chanting city till we die.

http://www.youtube.com/attribution_...e9iFMU&feature=share&a=5Gu_4xbhMHZVZvOJf62cow

not sure if that will work, but its an amusing take on the whole mess

 

[itsinyerblood]

Sadly this is all too true, we could be potentially looking at a Portsmouth type scenario, he (Allam) rightly or wrongly, has convinced himself that the rebranding would be well received in Asian and far eastern countries because the tiger is held in high esteem over in that neck of the woods, I don't think he will back down, not if his press releases are anything to go by, "nobody tells me how to run my businesses", or "they can die when they want", in response to the crowd chanting city till we die.

http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?u=/watch?v=dW067e9iFMU&feature=share&a=5Gu_4xbhMHZVZvOJf62cow

not sure if that will work, but its an amusing take on the whole mess

That's quite good and offers an accurate appraisal of the lunacy your Chairman seems to think makes sense. You can count the clubs who have any measure of global appeal on the fingers of one hand, and Hull isn't one of 'em. Seen it all before, guys who make a packet in other areas of business who think that football can be run the same as any other business.

If things ever go pear-shaped I think the Swansea model is the way forward. Fans take on the running of the club, and whether you're successful or not, at least you have a measure of control with everything that goes with this.

 

[super_pig]

Hull aren't plastic and neither are Man City. .Hull will only become plastic when they suddenly attract 30k floating fans per week from the Indian subcontinent.. Citeh have 'never' been plastic.. they got 30k in in the third division. Chelsea are the most plastic team much as i like Jose. 25 k fans before they won anything and only 35 now

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

This is all very well and good, but have they mentioned Linz probably having a fanny like a bust rugby ball?
If not, they are clearly in the not in the professional league of cross forum insults and need to up their game to match the real quality misogyny banter displayed by our porcine friends.
In short, even in this regard they seem to be distinctly plastic.

 

[Bert Jr.]

There's a corker from that board from Barmbys_Tan who says... "Sheffield United fans have always been deluded, theyre a lot like Leeds. living under their past glory."

I nearly burned my cock off with hot tea reading that. Past glories? Aha ha ha h... erm....

Edit... Also this. PLASTIC

I fully recognise the Greasy Chip Butty Song is cringe-tastic. But that, that is something else entirely. What the FUCK are they doing?

 

[Kenilworth]

I fully recognise the Greasy Chip Butty Song is cringe-tastic.

WTF are you on?
It's the best and most original football chant ever.

 

[jezzablade]

Sadly this is all too true, we could be potentially looking at a Portsmouth type scenario, he (Allam) rightly or wrongly, has convinced himself that the rebranding would be well received in Asian and far eastern countries because the tiger is held in high esteem over in that neck of the woods, I don't think he will back down, not if his press releases are anything to go by, "nobody tells me how to run my businesses", or "they can die when they want", in response to the crowd chanting city till we die.

http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?u=/watch?v=dW067e9iFMU&feature=share&a=5Gu_4xbhMHZVZvOJf62cow

not sure if that will work, but its an amusing take on the whole mess

Actually you not owning your ground is a protection against this guy Allam (sorry I thought it was Haslam when I worked in Hessle that's what they called him when he bought City). Because unpalatable as it would be the council want revenue and a newby can be formed similar to Rangers as Allam can't go against your assets like they did with Portsmouth. So Hull City can continue, and with the fans you have built since moving into the KC could rise through the leagues quickly. This would therefore be a better situation than Portsmouth, who at some point will come back again. Best of luck against this guy.

 

[Worksopblade1]

Met the Hull chairman at KIngs Cross station this week. Seemed a really nice guy but then again he's not trying to tinker with our heritage ! He talked about the amount he's having to pay your two new strikers, the wage bill and why Bullard had to leave the club. Also stated that he's knows the Mcabes very well and the Prince isn't putting cash into our club ! That's the bit I didn't believe.

Got up to shake my hand as I got off at Retford whilst he carried on to Hull. He'd been to the House of Lords - I hadn't !!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Met the Hull chairman at KIngs Cross station this week. Seemed a really nice guy but then again he's not trying to tinker with our heritage ! He talked about the amount he's having to pay your two new strikers, the wage bill and why Bullard had to leave the club. Also stated that he's knows the Mcabes very well and the Prince isn't putting cash into our club ! That's the bit I didn't believe.

Got up to shake my hand as I got off at Retford whilst he carried on to Hull. He'd been to the House of Lords - I hadn't !!

Only bit I believe

 

[Swanseablade]

I believe rugby league sold out to be a summer sport to fill the SKY schedules whist the football season started again. Also the RL were in favour because they no longer had to clash with the football. They call it 'summer rugby' but soon realised they missed out on the lucrative Easter fixtures so the 'summer season' now actually starts in February. Personally I think it's a mickey mouse game and none of the RL fans I know have a good word to say about football and football supporters. They think they have the moral high ground and their game is more skilful. When we have Premier League players diving all over the place it is difficult to argue against them. As for skilful? When I was at school if you couldn't play football you were sent to join the lardarses at the back of the field playing rugby.
Football certainly effects rugby league attendances when the dates clash which isn't very often because of that.
There are a few who support football and rugby league in Hull but it's not that noticeable. Most RL fans pick one of the top four Premier League clubs to 'support' which I and others find strange.
In Sheffield you have the rivalry between yourselves and Wednesday. The rivalry in Hull is between City and the RL fans. Not only do the majority of Hull FC want City to lose every week they also want to prove to you that RL is the better game.
We often get the 'you've never won nowt' jibes comparing us to their 12 club franchised competition with no relegation or promotions.
Winning trophies in RL is relatively easy compared to football because the competition is so much smaller but try and explain that to a pub full of aled up RL fans.

I know what you mean about Sky but summer pitches etc. have definitely improved the game and speeded it up somewhat.
I must admit that I do like both sports.
Footy will always be number one, but the hits etc. in RL are something else.....
Hull FC won the challenge cup in Cardiff- I went as it was just down the road & it was a fantastic game. Supported Hull - because the opposition was L**ds & had my picture taken with a hull "lass" that had the following on the back of her rugby shirt:

WE
8
L**ds

Made me laugh.....

 

[jezzablade]

Met the Hull chairman at KIngs Cross station this week. Seemed a really nice guy but then again he's not trying to tinker with our heritage ! He talked about the amount he's having to pay your two new strikers, the wage bill and why Bullard had to leave the club. Also stated that he's knows the Mcabes very well and the Prince isn't putting cash into our club ! That's the bit I didn't believe.

Got up to shake my hand as I got off at Retford whilst he carried on to Hull. He'd been to the House of Lords - I hadn't !!

It's true the Prince isn't putting any money in, he can't it's against the FFP rules. When we move up the divisions then he can. Whether he will is for us to find out but considering he would have to have paid to buy another club he has the money he didn't spent on buying another club, can be put into the Blades at the right time.

 

[frechyblade]

Anyone watch MotD2 last night? The guy wearing the tiger onesie! on the 2 good 2 bad section at the end. Some city fans are obviously buying into the Hull tigers franchise a little too much.

Ther was always an 'air' about the games we played in the early 80's against them.

UTB

 

[Bladesway]

Fuck me, plastic Hull fans? I got here a bit late. Every club gathers fans as it becomes more successful whats the surprise. I would suggest Hull is about as working class as it gets and a proverbial million miles from the likes of Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal where they are all about revenue streams and picking rich supporters over the rest.

Hull are batting above their average in the league but well done to them. They have a good manager and a team we can only envy.

Two success starved clubs who have both been in the shite in recent years chucking rocks at each other seems a bit poor form to me. Who is the bigger club? Isn't that the sort of argument the massives are always having?

Leave that to the pigs, lets get on with being a proper club and leave phrases like plastic for clubs like MK Dons, Man City, Chelsea etc.

 

[JohnDenver]

Pedro, most HCFC fans are against the proposed name change including myself. Its a tricky one though because HCFC do need to raise more money than we currently are in order to stay where we are.

What's more important? A few years at the top table (you will be relegated in the short/medium either way), or this?

It's up to you to decide.

 

[raul]

What's more important? A few years at the top table (you will be relegated in the short/medium either way), or this?

It's up to you to decide.

Nice idea, but wrong. The democratic process is somewhat skewed when the subtext is "Of course, you can oppose me if you wish, but I'll just call in my loans and you'll be finished forever" (Mr Bond Ahahahahahahah! he didn't add)

Funny how all the populace of Crimea have decided to declare their undying love of Mother Russia excatly at the same time their street of filled with Soldiers isn't it?

I'd like to think the Hull lads will call his bluff and see what Allam does, the cynic in me can't help wondering why he's so desperate to embark on a confrontational road with his customers and I'm keen to see what develops.