Barry and Bindon: Not good enough.

[designedbyross]

I think Barry has done alright. First half today he was often running with the ball being chased by 4 players while his teammates just stood there and watched him struggle.

Bindon on the other hand hasn’t shown a great deal and doesn’t look ready for this league, he’s too slow.

Tanganga was excellent though, it’s almost like signing someone with a lot of Championship experience is a good thing to do…

 

[Varkanoid]

I actually think Barry has done OK. Often isolated, nobody gets up the pitch to support

This exactly he does his thing looks up and nobody there to cross the ball or provide support as no one anticipates his run but it's bloody obvious what he is going to do. The whole team is disjointed pretty sure Barry in last year's team would have a few goals and assists by now. How many times last year we were crying out for a left sided player. Now we have one we have rest of team who are not upto the job. It's not Barry's fault. He did also track back in 2nd half.

 

[Frank the tank]

Sorry but if you can't get the better of an aging like ayling then league one is your level or lower

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

I thought Bindon looked lots better today with Tanganga next to him. Made a few good clearances, didn't do much wrong.

Barry, I think has bags of potential and it's much too early to write him off. Didn't do much today but has generally looked one of our best players.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Wilder, Hecky and the prince felt championship players would cut in the premier league

Did they? Or is that all they could afford regardless of what they thought...

 

[Houston_Blade]

It's like some fans haven't learnt anything about watching young loanees over the past few years....

Patience.

This is the only thing that keeps me holding my tongue. I’m old enough to remember the ‘McAtee pants down” thread,

 

[SwissBlade]

I thought Bindon looked lots better today with Tanganga next to him. Made a few good clearances, didn't do much wrong.

Barry, I think has bags of potential and it's much too early to write him off. Didn't do much today but has generally looked one of our best players.

Barry has to improve his end product. His decision making is poor and whilst some fans get excited when a player runs at a defender, if he's been shown down a blind alley then its short lived spaffing for nothing.

Bindon needs a lot more games, lets hope the Swedish lad is better. Tanganga is a one man defence

 

[Maurice Maurice]

Bindon was to blame for the goal. He should have been closer to that twat who was running behind Tanganga and a more experienced centre half would have been. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh but no room for error in that situation. Thought Cooper was a bit slow going down as well and again for me that's a very avoidable goal.

 

[Geordie Blade]

Barrie could be a decent impact sub.

That’s exactly how I see him. He’s very positive and direct, but quite predictable. That approach doesn’t work in the early stages of a game, when teams are set up to be more cautious. He’d be far more effective when the game gets stretched and the opposition has tired legs.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

We've moved Hamer to accommodate Barry.

If Hamer is still here after the deadline, give him the keys to the motor and let him drive the thing.

If that wide / free role is what gets the best out of him, then put him there. If that means Barry on the right, or Barry on the bench, then whatevs. He hasn't shown enough to warrant moving Hamer.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Bindon not a Championship level player at this stage in his career , positionally all over the place & highlighted yesterday in leaving it too late to track Conway for the goal . Barrie for me being played out of position & also his inability to track back is exposing Burrows game after game . As said earlier in the thread he might be a better impact sub or playing off another striker in a 442 . Not a new signing but has to be mentioned is Brooks when it comes to underperforming & no end product .. my only defence for him is the current & previous managers insist on playing him on the right flank when he doesn’t have a right foot & it’s sideways or backwards , maybe give him a run on his natural left side & see what he can do

 

[Bergen Blade]

Bindon not a Championship level player at this stage in his career , positionally all over the place & highlighted yesterday in leaving it too late to track Conway for the goal . Barrie for me being played out of position & also his inability to track back is exposing Burrows game after game . As said earlier in the thread he might be a better impact sub or playing off another striker in a 442 . Not a new signing but has to be mentioned is Brooks when it comes to underperforming & no end product .. my only defence for him is the current & previous managers insist on playing him on the right flank when he doesn’t have a right foot & it’s sideways or backwards , maybe give him a run on his natural left side & see what he can do

Brooks misses the overlaps and interchange play with Seriki. I expect Godfrey to be steady defensively, but we need players who can complement each other, form relations and be good together. At the moment we seem to replace some individuals who's considered our problem, but that doesn't necessarily imply the team gelling into a strong unit.

Barry seem to require some space to be effective. He's rather weak and not great so far when there's cover behind the full back he's attacking.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Brooks misses the overlaps and interchange play with Seriki. I expect Godfrey to be steady defensively, but we need players who can complement each other, form relations and be good together. At the moment we seem to replace some individuals who's considered our problem, but that doesn't necessarily imply the team gelling into a strong unit.

Barry seem to require some space to be effective. He's rather weak and not great so far when there's cover behind the full back he's attacking.

I agree there & to a certain extent had the same issue with Gilchrist as a full back last year in relation to Brooks , personally I’d rather see Seriki in the right midfield role rather than Brooks there if Godfrey is going to remain the full back as he offers a lot more down that side offensively.

 

[FriethBlade]

I agree there & to a certain extent had the same issue with Gilchrist as a full back last year in relation to Brooks , personally I’d rather see Seriki in the right midfield role rather than Brooks there if Godfrey is going to remain the full back as he offers a lot more down that side offensively.

I dont understand this Godfrey right back 'experiment'. I know he can play there but his main position is CB and if we r persisting with a back 4 id like to see him and Tanganga in the middle with a new right back (the Korean guy?).

If we go to 3 at the back then Godfrey Tanganga and Bindon would be the 3.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Barry shouldn't really be struggling. When you've got his pace then standard of football shouldn't really matter. If you're faster than a player, then you're faster. It doesn't matter whether they're League Two or Championship, a Ferrari will always out accelerate a Ford Fiesta. He needs to make better timed runs to utilise his pace to get past his marker better then all he's got to do is release the ball or go for goal himself.

 

[nopigfansintown]

It's hard to judge Bindon imo. Anybody in that backline would continually get exposed. I'd have to see him in a normal.team to make an.informed judgement.

Burrows tucks in on the ball which makes him redundant as an attacking threat. The same on the other side. The two wide in the front three are very isolated as the fullbacks are placed where they can't link with them as they're too deep and central. They should overlap when they go inside. Defensively there's a ton of space wide as Brooks and Barry go inside in the opponent's half and Burrows and our right back do the same defensively. You aren't bridging that gap unless you have prime Kyle Walker's athleticism or the Liverpool players filling in for the marauding Trent (Henderson and Konate under Klopp).That combined with the high defensive line leaves the easy ball behind and to the left of Bindon or right of Tanganga wide open. We are then criticising the centre backa for not being incredible in one on one highly dangerous duals no defender wants to get in.. The wide simple ball any reasonable footballer can play is also always on with their wide players having time and space. Then it's Burrows or the right back in a dual with no support. It's suicidal.

 

[FMBlade1]

Barry is the most predictable one dimensional one footed players I have ever seen for us.

Had a decent 20 minutes against Bristol and since then he's completely sussed out.

Don't think we can send him back so stick him on the bench.