Baldock to Olympiakos for 2m

[Grizzly blade]

More than earned a new deal.

3 yrs as well….he’s completely committed and will ensure he remains in top shape for the club. An excellent Pro.

Also seems to love it here, and for me is first name on the team sheet when we are so reliant on string defenders, as we are now.

 

[Stretch]

Re Ndiaye, he was undoubtedly the best thing we have had at this club in a generation, and irreplaceable, but I can see the other side of the argument that we should be able to move on and cope without him too.

PH said we have to try and find players who are better at some of the things he could do, even if they can't do everything he did. With Hamer and Archer we have an aggressive ball carrying playmaker and a goal driven forward. It's a great start. Add some more attacking flair, rep!ace McAtee also, and we are no weaker. In fact if anything have spread the risk of a season defining injury across 2 or 3 key players, rather than just 1.

 

[Darlington82]

I know that him only having one year left is a concern to him, just offer him a new deal for 3 years ffs. He is the best in that position we have and if we get someone better, what a great back up.

others have the same contact issues, but he is the only no brained, Norwood and McBurnie is the others to consider.

Doubt any of them are trying to run contracts down for big payouts.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

They can piss right off.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Yes, I've looked at all their stats and compared them. Ndiaye was better at everything, conclusively. But especially, chance creation, dribbling, winning the ball back, passing. You know, football.

How about goals & assists? You know, the things that win games.

 

[Gin&Juice]

It’s a pisstake he hasn’t been offered a new deal. He’s our dependable Dennis Irwin. Get it sorted Blacky ffs!

 

[Carlton Blade]

How about goals & assists? You know, the things that win games.

Ndiaye had a lot more in a team that scored less and solely relied on his output for long spells of the season. Archer wasn't even the main forward in his own team.

You don't think all the other things Ndiaye did contributed to winning games?

 

[Nick Jansky]

He’ll ignore what he can’t positively counteract. It’s what they do.

Ah, the king of reasoned discussion!

I have positively counteracted if you can somehow manage to extend your attention span beyond one short sentence.

 

[bongleblade]

I think the Romano thing will be genuine... but it'll be sourced from George's agent.

Give him the fucking contract Blades

 

[Nick Jansky]

Ndiaye had a lot more in a team that scored less and solely relied on his output for long spells of the season. Archer wasn't even the main forward in his own team.

You don't think all the other things Ndiaye did contributed to winning games?

Yes, I do. I’ve set out my view in a response to wizadry. I’ve said throughout that he was important. I wish he was still here. I also think that you failed to grasp the points I was making and knee jerked. But that’s fine, it’s only a football forum.

 

[NerdyBlade]

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[YES Blade]

Baldock is a fantastic defender, them type of players don’t come cheap or to us on our wage structure, he’s worth more than a year right now. I mean come on, we’ve just offered injury prone Fleck and Osborn new contracts ffs.

Look what happened to Fleck, his form has dropped off significantly from his prime. The same could happen to Baldock in a years time.

I’ve no issue with him having a two year contract, but I also don’t see a problem with him only having one year. I can’t imagine that come the end of the season he’ll be getting offers any better than what we will be willing to match or better.

 

[wizadry]

Ok, now I’ve finished my tea & I’m no longer hangry I’ll try it a different way.

Ndiaye is a brilliant player and I loved watching him. I’ll never forget some of the highlights from last season. He was also hugely important to our promotion, but not the only reason for it. He made a huge difference but we wouldn’t have got over the line without a few of the others.

I wish he was still our player but he isn’t. He’s at Marseille. Not at one of the biggest clubs because none of them came in for him, even though he would have cost them relatively spare change. As far as we know, only Everton did. I think others might have been “monitoring him” but didn’t make a move. There are reasons for that. Against England in the World Cup and City at Wembley he looked bang average. I think he could become an elite player in time but he’s nowhere near it yet. He is exhilarating to watch but sometimes his decision making was poor. I think that’s the thing that he needs to improve to go higher.

Anyway, he’s gone now and I wish him all the best in the world (he’s actually a friend of my daughters, and there is a particular incident that happened on a night out in town that I will be eternally grateful to him & Femi Seriki for).

So all I’m bothered about is this season, and my opinion is that by the time the transfer window closes our squad will be far stronger than it was last season, Ndiaye or no Ndiaye. I wish he was still a part of it, but in the grand scheme of things I don’t think it will matter so much. And there’s nothing we can do about it anyway.

If you’d have said this instead of Archer and Hamer are better than N’diaye then I’d have agreed and it would’ve said us all a lot of time.

 

[TopBoy]

I'd use this interest in Baldock to give him a new deal and make him captain. He's everything you need in a team scrapping for Premier League survival.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Yes, I do. I’ve set out my view in a response to wizadry. I’ve said throughout that he was important. I wish he was still here. I also think that you failed to grasp the points I was making and knee jerked. But that’s fine, it’s only a football forum.

As far as I could tell you said Ndiaye’s importance was overstated. Then you said that Archer and Hamer were better.

If I've misunderstood what you meant then I apologise

 

[wizadry]

Look what happened to Fleck, his form has dropped off significantly from his prime. The same could happen to Baldock in a years time.

I’ve no issue with him having a two year contract, but I also don’t see a problem with him only having one year. I can’t imagine that come the end of the season he’ll be getting offers any better than what we will be willing to match or better.

I don’t necessarily disagree, all I’ll say is Baldocks injury record and performance levels are still currently way above Fleck, that deal was completely baffling and must mean Baldock should get a 10 year contract in accordance with the Fleck deal.

 

[Nick Jansky]

If you’d have said this instead of Archer and Hamer are better than N’diaye then I’d have agreed and it would’ve said us all a lot of time.

The previous posts were rushed, clumsy & a bit grumpy. I’m happy to apologise.

But I do think that the combination of those two will prove to be as important to us.

 

[Oohaah! Bob Bookah!]

Time for Kyle to come home?

 

[Gin&Juice]

 

[Nick Jansky]

As far as I could tell you said Ndiaye’s importance was overstated. Then you said that Archer and Hamer were better.

If I've misunderstood what you meant then I apologise

I apologise for not being clearer, so it’s on me in the beginning.

 

[Booker4]

As others have said, he's one of a number who should be given new deals now or at some point before January, we don't want players leaving in the summer or not knowing whether they will sign for months as can become the case. Baldock, Egan and Wes all merit contract offers now unless there's another year to go and McBurnie doesn't for starters as he already had his year taken up by the club.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Hamer and Archer between them are a superb way to replace Ndiaye. Very smart

I think both will get similar goal contribution numbers to what Ndiaye would have, between them comfortably more

I also think Hamer's importance this season will be much closer to Ndiaye's last season than most would expect

I wouldn't go as far as saying either are individually better, but we don't need them to be

We'll be stronger than last season overall with the crucial additional factor of having more assets under contract, even if we'll have to sell a few of them if relegated

New contracts need sorting now though, and Baldock is top of the list, then McBurnie and Egan

 

[Cappy]

Not a hard “no” then

 

[raimond]

Anyone considered that he may consider a decent climate, respectable money and a you know what thought, I'm 30 well set up for life and this is just the move that suits me at this time, albeit I'll miss my mates and all things SUFC.

Nayow

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Not up to the task all the time on Sunday !

Thought he defended really well against probably the best wide forward in the league on form (Grealish).

He maybe gave him a bit too much room for their first but it's a brilliantly lofted cross from Grealish on his left foot. Baldock's shown him onto his weaker foot.

 

[YES Blade]

As others have said, he's one of a number who should be given new deals now or at some point before January, we don't want players leaving in the summer or not knowing whether they will sign for months as can become the case. Baldock, Egan and Wes all merit contract offers now unless there's another year to go and McBurnie doesn't for starters as he already had his year taken up by the club.

We should only offer new contracts if it protects us in terms of transfer values.

In terms of loyalty to Egan, Baldock and Wes, it would be the right thing to do to offer them new deals but from a business perspective, we shouldn’t offer them anything until the end of the season.

As they are all over 30, their values aren’t particularly high, so it doesn’t offer us much protection by having them under a longer contract. I’d also be surprised if at the end of the season, they turned down a contract offer from us. So why make take the risk and give them a contract now?

McBurnie at 27 has a bit more value so would be potentially worth offering him a new deal earlier.

 

[raimond]

I'd use this interest in Baldock to give him a new deal and make him captain. He's everything you need in a team scrapping for Premier League survival.

Aye and let's not forget that bloody awful Luton match with Bogle and Lowe at full back and not an ounce of aggression in the side, completely bollockless. George coming in was easily as big a factor in our run in as McAtee and Doyle.

Bloody loves us, make him skipper. He loves winning, we need as many like him as we can get.

 

[Booker4]

We should only offer new contracts if it protects us in terms of transfer values.

In terms of loyalty to Egan, Baldock and Wes, it would be the right thing to do to offer them new deals but from a business perspective, we shouldn’t offer them anything until the end of the season.

As they are all over 30, their values aren’t particularly high, so it doesn’t offer us much protection by having them under a longer contract. I’d also be surprised if at the end of the season, they turned down a contract offer from us. So why make take the risk and give them a contract now?

McBurnie at 27 has a bit more value so would be potentially worth offering him a new deal earlier.

I take your point but if we go down and Wes, Baldock and Egan have suitors from other clubs and lets just assume they don't have a years extension then surely now is the time or soon to offer them a contract, otherwise we may lose them for nothing this summer if say Leeds offer any of the three big money, they may well take it. One of the teams who go up could well want any of those three too and then I would worry we'd lose them for nothing. I recall Wes had his one year option taken up this summer so he for starters is out of contract next season.

 

[Brian Deane]

https://x.com/sheffunitedway/status/1696585346241159313?s=46&t=ly-ZtT5N9urIdrS5z3vPVw

In true football terms that statement means he's already gone

 

[YES Blade]

I take your point but if we go down and Wes, Baldock and Egan have suitors from other clubs and lets just assume they don't have a years extension then surely now is the time or soon to offer them a contract, otherwise we may lose them for nothing this summer if say Leeds offer any of the three big money, they may well take it. One of the teams who go up could well want any of those three too and then I would worry we'd lose them for nothing. I recall Wes had his one year option taken up this summer so he for starters is out of contract next season.

At 31/32, it’s reaching a point where they’d need to be replaced anyway. So if they left for nothing, I wouldn’t lose too much sleep.

But I reckon it’s likely we’d be able to keep the majority of the older players that are out of contract this summer, if we wanted them.