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With Stearmen looking like he will soon be back in the picture, although probably not tomorrow. Who will be our starting back three, assuming we stick with a back three. I am very impressed with CCV and can’t see him losing his place despite him being just 19 years old. For me it’s CCV, Stearman and JOC.
 



CCV had a couple of ricks against Wolves. I would stick with what has worked even though I acknowledge that Jake Wright has started to look a bit suspect recently and may need a rest.
 
What Bash does well is attack from that right central role. Nobody else does it quite so well.
CCV is ver neat and tidy and better defensively mind.

Whether Stearman will come in, I’m not so sure. I seem to think Wilder won’t change a side that’s winning. So that will include Freeman too.

Wright has been subbed last two games to allow a change, and on each occasion has worked for the side. So if there was to be a change I reckon it will be him. But we shall see, Wilder May have a specific tactic or plan in mind for Forest who could be deemed not quite so good defensively as the last 2sides we have faced.
 
Stick with the same side for me, Wilder won't change the back at the min unless it's enforced.
 
iBlade. said:
With Stearmen looking like he will soon be back in the picture, although probably not tomorrow. Who will be our starting back three, assuming we stick with a back three. I am very impressed with CCV and can’t see him losing his place despite him being just 19 years old. For me it’s CCV, Stearman and JOC.
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Sorry but stearman has looked our least convincing CB not to say he ain't a good CB just that the 4/5 others have been top quality.
Didn't understand why wright was dropped straight away for him and still see wright above him in the pecking order
 
iBlade. said:
With Stearmen looking like he will soon be back in the picture, although probably not tomorrow. Who will be our starting back three, assuming we stick with a back three. I am very impressed with CCV and can’t see him losing his place despite him being just 19 years old. For me it’s CCV, Stearman and JOC.
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I love that we get to have conundrums like this. Huge difference from when we could not get management to build a proper defence or spine into the team.
 
iBlade. said:
With Stearmen looking like he will soon be back in the picture, although probably not tomorrow. Who will be our starting back three, assuming we stick with a back three. I am very impressed with CCV and can’t see him losing his place despite him being just 19 years old. For me it’s CCV, Stearman and JOC.
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Last season Wilder made it clear that if you are out of the side for any reason, suspension, lack of form, fitness/ injury, that you have to wait out until your turn comes. However, with perhaps higher intensity games in this division, he's been less predictable and has already swapped players out to rotate things a bit, Bolton as an example.

We've got no injury concerns in the back 3 and with a break coming up, i can see the same back three which served us well on Sunday and Weds:

JOC - CCV - Wright
 
Stearman is being significantly underrated by some at the moment.

CCV looks like he has a good future ahead of him, and he has done well for us in some big games (with occasional bad errors that he has largely got away with so far--as to be expected with a 19 year old who has limited match experience).

Is he a better all round CH than Stearman, at this stage of their respective careers ? Of course he isn't !
 
Ah, decisions decisions. Remember a time when we didn't have two decent centre halves to rub together? When Collins and Edgar was the best we'd got.
Personally, I don't think Jake has done anything wrong since he came back in, but I think at some point when both are fit, Stearman will replace him. IMO,if all are fit, the back three of JOC - Stearman - Bash will be the first choice.
 
iBlade. said:
With Stearmen looking like he will soon be back in the picture, although probably not tomorrow. Who will be our starting back three, assuming we stick with a back three. I am very impressed with CCV and can’t see him losing his place despite him being just 19 years old. For me it’s CCV, Stearman and JOC.
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Basham - Wright - JOC would be my starting three with Coutts - Fleck and Duffy ahead of them

The moment for Stearman and CCV will come as form and suspensions and injury take their toll.
 



ShockingBadBuy said:
Stearman is being significantly underrated by some at the moment.

CCV looks like he has a good future ahead of him, and he has done well for us in some big games (with occasional bad errors that he has largely got away with so far--as to be expected with a 19 year old who has limited match experience).

Is he a better all round CH than Stearman, at this stage of their respective careers ? Of course he isn't !
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I agree people are talking down Stearman and is bring him back in. Jake Wright is has been very very good and organised the defence well, think Stearman only gets talked down because of the defeats which I don’t recall him being at fault for anything?

But there is no comparison to be made between CCV or Stearman in Wilders eyes these are his choices

JOC or Hannigan
Wright or Stearman
CCV or Basham.

The mobility of the LCB and RCB is as important as the mobility of the RB or LB.
Apologise if I misunderstood your post but it suggests bringing Stearman in for CCV?
 
boo radley said:
Bashambaur has been brilliant the last two games and to me fits in that Midfield really well. Boy does our management team have some decent headaches.
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Bashambauer and Wrightambauer for me. Although Bashamele has looked solid in a DM role!!
 
I would stick with the back 3 from last couple of games with bash in midfield. Wasn't a big fan of stearman before his injury so be silly to bring him back in
 
mancunianblade said:
The mobility of the LCB and RCB is as important as the mobility of the RB or LB.
Apologise if I misunderstood your post but it suggests bringing Stearman in for CCV?
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Nope, not suggesting that as such, just responding to what I thought was suggestion by some that CCV is currently a better CH than Stearman. I did read the thread rapidly though, so may be being unfair to others !
 
JayGreen17 said:
Stick with the same side for me, Wilder won't change the back at the min unless it's enforced.
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I do agree with that, never change a winning team, however, this will be the third game in 7 days. CW might need to tinker a bit. To be fair they can't be that knackered after facing Wendy and Brooks probably wants to play every minute of every game. He and his family must be buzzing
 
Personally, I can see Wright getting dropped. When he was taken off against Wolves, he wasn't happy about it & made it quite evident. Whether Wilder sees it as fire in the belly or descent, who knows. But with Stearman about ready to come back, I wouldn't be surprised to see him return in place of Wright
 
Jake Wright every day of the week for me. Stearman really doesn't inspire any confidence in me at all, and it's no coincidence that we are flying now that Wright is once again a permanent fixture in the starting eleven, just as his introduction to the team last season was the catalyst to our promotion surge.

The man is an unsung hero and his rock-steady, if not fancy presence at the back should not be underestimated. Sir Wilder certainly knows Wright's true worth to the team.
 
ShockingBadBuy said:
Stearman is being significantly underrated by some at the moment.

CCV looks like he has a good future ahead of him, and he has done well for us in some big games (with occasional bad errors that he has largely got away with so far--as to be expected with a 19 year old who has limited match experience).

Is he a better all round CH than Stearman, at this stage of their respective careers ? Of course he isn't !
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That's because Jake is a sentimental favourite so the Bladey way is to disparage and denigrate his replacement and generally make things up e.g. the goal at Boro happened because Wright wasn't there to organise. Utter self-serving bollocks.

Stearman will replace Wright sooner rather than later. That, for those who avoid the obvious, is why Tufty recruited him.
 
And because Wright needs competition.
Stearman needs to prove himself yet, he's not been great thus far, and going on that logic, then Henegan and stearman are in competition for wrights position?
 
Stearman is going to take some time to get used to how we play.
 



Wright I think has not been at his best the last couple of games. He's been by no means poor, but not great either. He's also been sacrificed in both games as we look to change shape when teams have looked to be getting on top of us. He is good in a back 3 but not in a back 4 and I can see us shifting to a back 4 more and more this season during games. It would be nice to not have to use up a substitution each time we do this so having somebody like Stearman start, who is comfortable in a back 4 would be better.

I have been impressed with how well Wright has taken to the Championship and he will play a lot for us this season, and do well. However Stearman is first choice, has the better pedigree, and is Wilder's favoured option. Once fully fit he will be back in the starting line up.
 
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