Aston Villa Fans Views On The Restart

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I read all of this with an internal monologue of Jasper Carrott. My weekend is ruined.

Some nice comments about us though, however I still hope they go down.
 
bromtom said:
The articles are a couple of months apart in 2018. Just saying, bit rich from Villa fans when it comes to respecting grieving people.
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His parents died the season before the cabbage throwing so your point really isn't that valid.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
This isolation has done strange things to my mind. I thought I read that Villa fans reckon that playing us is their Cup Final. That can't be right...
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Ha. Well it is. We have one game to catch up with everyone else. For all we know after that one game the like may simply say, 'sod it you've now all played the same so we can use PPG now'. Therefore, it has become like a Cup Final whereby winning one game could give you a rich reward. Win it and we're out of the bottom 3.

I mean, i get that you've done well this season (and other than us and Norwich fans no-one saw it coming), and you have places in Europe to fight for...but, you know, just a little reminder about the West Ham thing a few years ago...if you lose they're in the bottom 3...just saying...
 
Apart from the last comment all good stuff.
Favourite comment was the lad who points out the break 'halted' their freefall and has at least given them a chance to try and regroup.
 
As for the game itself...

first of all a brief line or two whether it should be being played at all. I think June 17th is far too early given the amount of time they have had away from what tantamounts to pre-season training. All clubs have only just started full contact training and in 2 weeks or so the season starts. The possibility of serious muscle injuries for elite sports people is being largely ignored. One game may be okay, maybe even the first couple. But given that each club is expected to play 9/10 games over a 6 week period having come out of a near comatose state is reckless to see the least.

To the game - the break helped us. We may still lose the next ten, or play better and go down, but if we hadn't have had the break we were on a downward trajectory which i doubt we would have got out of. Mings was trying to cover the whole defence and getting pulled all over the shop and making mistakes. SuperJack was clearly physically and mentally knackered and offering little (albeit still more than others), McGinn was still out (3 months), and although Samatta showed that he is a decent centre-forward in the old fashioned number 9 sense it didn't appear that we'd worked out that he likes crosses into the box.

So, the break will allow Grealish to have the break he needed (wherever it was he went..), and for McGinn to get back into midfield. it gives us a chance to get mings a rest and remind the defence that up until December weren't performing that badly that the idea is to appear that they have at least met each other before, and to just remind the whole squads that we have 10 games to right the mess that we had got ourselves into. We've got the basis of a decent enough team to do it, they just now have to believe in each other a bit more.

Won#t be easy, and I do think you're not the ideal team to start against. Someone sitting comfortable mid table like a Palace or Everton maybe. On top of that the Bundesliga restart have shown that 'home' teams haven't won the majority of the restart games. I reckon it'll be a draw, but we need the 3 points.
 
peter w said:
As for the game itself...

first of all a brief line or two whether it should be being played at all. I think June 17th is far too early given the amount of time they have had away from what tantamounts to pre-season training. All clubs have only just started full contact training and in 2 weeks or so the season starts. The possibility of serious muscle injuries for elite sports people is being largely ignored. One game may be okay, maybe even the first couple. But given that each club is expected to play 9/10 games over a 6 week period having come out of a near comatose state is reckless to see the least.

To the game - the break helped us. We may still lose the next ten, or play better and go down, but if we hadn't have had the break we were on a downward trajectory which i doubt we would have got out of. Mings was trying to cover the whole defence and getting pulled all over the shop and making mistakes. SuperJack was clearly physically and mentally knackered and offering little (albeit still more than others), McGinn was still out (3 months), and although Samatta showed that he is a decent centre-forward in the old fashioned number 9 sense it didn't appear that we'd worked out that he likes crosses into the box.

So, the break will allow Grealish to have the break he needed (wherever it was he went..), and for McGinn to get back into midfield. it gives us a chance to get mings a rest and remind the defence that up until December weren't performing that badly that the idea is to appear that they have at least met each other before, and to just remind the whole squads that we have 10 games to right the mess that we had got ourselves into. We've got the basis of a decent enough team to do it, they just now have to believe in each other a bit more.

Won#t be easy, and I do think you're not the ideal team to start against. Someone sitting comfortable mid table like a Palace or Everton maybe. On top of that the Bundesliga restart have shown that 'home' teams haven't won the majority of the restart games. I reckon it'll be a draw, but we need the 3 points.
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Hope your team and manager agree it’s too soon to play ... Christ all they’ve had to do is train and then 3-4 weeks back at the clubs to sharpen up.

Check Wilder and our players attitude to returning and CW even stating yesterday they wish they were playing the weekend before the full schedule.... that’s how it should be !
 
peter w said:
As for the game itself...

first of all a brief line or two whether it should be being played at all. I think June 17th is far too early given the amount of time they have had away from what tantamounts to pre-season training. All clubs have only just started full contact training and in 2 weeks or so the season starts. The possibility of serious muscle injuries for elite sports people is being largely ignored. One game may be okay, maybe even the first couple. But given that each club is expected to play 9/10 games over a 6 week period having come out of a near comatose state is reckless to see the least.

To the game - the break helped us. We may still lose the next ten, or play better and go down, but if we hadn't have had the break we were on a downward trajectory which i doubt we would have got out of. Mings was trying to cover the whole defence and getting pulled all over the shop and making mistakes. SuperJack was clearly physically and mentally knackered and offering little (albeit still more than others), McGinn was still out (3 months), and although Samatta showed that he is a decent centre-forward in the old fashioned number 9 sense it didn't appear that we'd worked out that he likes crosses into the box.

So, the break will allow Grealish to have the break he needed (wherever it was he went..), and for McGinn to get back into midfield. it gives us a chance to get mings a rest and remind the defence that up until December weren't performing that badly that the idea is to appear that they have at least met each other before, and to just remind the whole squads that we have 10 games to right the mess that we had got ourselves into. We've got the basis of a decent enough team to do it, they just now have to believe in each other a bit more.

Won#t be easy, and I do think you're not the ideal team to start against. Someone sitting comfortable mid table like a Palace or Everton maybe. On top of that the Bundesliga restart have shown that 'home' teams haven't won the majority of the restart games. I reckon it'll be a draw, but we need the 3 points.
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If you win it would be Watford in relagation?

It did spring out to me that this benefited Villa. I thought you were as good as down when McGinn got injured.

It's hard to guess now given the break. Will Watfords revival continue? They seem to have been hit by this.

I've not made my mind up whether this was good for us or not. Historically we haven't been great after a break and whilst we have a fit team it isn't just a benefit it is a necessity for our game.
 
www.dailymail.co.uk

Premier League clubs 'pushing to delay Project Restart to June 26'

June 12 and June 19 have both been proposed as potential start dates but a host of clubs are now keen to push that date back to ensure players return safely and don't suffer muscle injuries.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Apologies for using this rag and it's mention of the S*n...remember players have had around 1 week of close contact training and nothing else. No ball work with other players before this, just individual sessions. Therefore, you'd ordinarily be looking at around 6 weeks from starting training to getting a season going. here, after a longer than usual lay-off the PL are looking at a 3/4 week turnaround.
 
BladeInIreland said:
If you win it would be Watford in relagation?

It did spring out to me that this benefited Villa. I thought you were as good as down when McGinn got injured.

It's hard to guess now given the break. Will Watfords revival continue? They seem to have been hit by this.

I've not made my mind up whether this was good for us or not. Historically we haven't been great after a break and whilst we have a fit team it isn't just a benefit it is a necessity for our game.
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You could be right, to be honest I haven't looked at the table from 19th up, other than the points of whoever sits in 17th. Same as not paying any attention to the PL for the 3 years we were out of it.
 
peter w said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Premier League clubs 'pushing to delay Project Restart to June 26'

June 12 and June 19 have both been proposed as potential start dates but a host of clubs are now keen to push that date back to ensure players return safely and don't suffer muscle injuries.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Apologies for using this rag and it's mention of the S*n...remember players have had around 1 week of close contact training and nothing else. No ball work with other players before this, just individual sessions. Therefore, you'd ordinarily be looking at around 6 weeks from starting training to getting a season going. here, after a longer than usual lay-off the PL are looking at a 3/4 week turnaround.
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Why ? Bundesliga had the exact same preparation and they seem fine
 
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Niceguyeddie said:
Why ? Bundesliga had the exact same preparation and they seem fine
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They suspended their season mid-March, and were back in training by mid-April. So only one month off. Nowhere near a comparison to how long PL players have been off.
 

I'm firmly in the 'this is great news' camp. Can't wait to see the boys playing again!
 
Roygbiv said:
roysviewfrom.com

Aston Villa Fans Views On The Restart — The View From

"This break will throw up all sorts of surprise results for the run in""I’ve only had a glance at some of the Bundesliga and it confirmed what I already knew, football without us is crap. This isn’t gonna change suddenly with the Premier League for me personally, hope we can stay up but won’t be
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Wow you are so on the ball Roy - should have been a politician as you are so at the front of things
 
peter w said:
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They suspended their season mid-March, and were back in training by mid-April. So only one month off. Nowhere near a comparison to how long PL players have been off.
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They only started contact training the week before the season started so your argument falls down there
If your players haven't been doing fitness training that's their problem ,very unprofessional considering the season could have restarted at any time
 
Niceguyeddie said:
They only started contact training the week before the season started so your argument falls down there
If your players haven't been doing fitness training that's their problem ,very unprofessional considering the season could have restarted at any time
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The contact training referred to here are things like man marking at corners, tackling and so on. What the German players had that we haven't is training with other players and not just individually. We have jumped directly from training by yourself to full contact. for the first few weeks/games it won't make a great deal of difference but players will become more susceptible to muscle tears as the games go by. Anyway, time will be of the telling.
 
Hahaha love it!
Not a chance though...
Personally I have teams I'd "prefer" to see go down. But we just keep going from strength to strength, our boys will be up for it I can guarantee you that!
 
peter w said:
His parents died the season before the cabbage throwing so your point really isn't that valid.
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Season before maybe, but you know that calender year thing that actually measures time, well that records the cabbage as just a few months after his parents dying, so not great is it.

I doubt Bruce was magically healed from the loss as soon as the fixtures came out.
 
bromtom said:
Season before maybe, but you know that calender year thing that actually measures time, well that records the cabbage as just a few months after his parents dying, so not great is it.

I doubt Bruce was magically healed from the loss as soon as the fixtures came out.
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No but doesn't really fit with your point. Neither episode is particularly edifying, but one deals with the day of someone's death, and the other is around 6 months after. Not like for like so the comparison doesn't fit. The incident alone doesn't reflect well on the club or the person, lumping it in with people dying is a strange position to take.
 

Roygbiv said:
roysviewfrom.com

Aston Villa Fans Views On The Restart — The View From

"This break will throw up all sorts of surprise results for the run in""I’ve only had a glance at some of the Bundesliga and it confirmed what I already knew, football without us is crap. This isn’t gonna change suddenly with the Premier League for me personally, hope we can stay up but won’t be
roysviewfrom.com roysviewfrom.com
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Thanks Roy, missed these nearly as much as the footy
 
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