Are we there yet dad? What are you thinking at the moment? MANAGER POLL 1

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Wilder - is he the Messiah or just a naughty boy?

  • Are you happy for Wilder to sell the best players (Hamer, Campbell, Peck, Brookes, Serilki)and stay

    Votes: 12 5.1%
  • Wilder is a great manager and will sort out who needs to stay and do the best for the club

    Votes: 51 21.7%
  • You were right, Warnock should have been brought in at the last break to assess the squad properly

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • I'm gone beyond caring and will not go or take an interest. I have no hope for the future

    Votes: 19 8.1%
  • I think COH are useless and could not appoint correctly anyway as with Selles. So keep Wilder fo now

    Votes: 65 27.7%
  • Sack him now and appoint someone available now to assess the squad. They SHOULD know who!

    Votes: 69 29.4%
  • Sack him when he gives another list of over 30 journeymen to sign

    Votes: 7 3.0%
  • Let's just start calling and writing and protesting to remove him while we can

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sack and replace just when he thinks he's guaranteed to stay next season before he releases or signs

    Votes: 6 2.6%

  • Total voters
    235

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My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)
 



My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)
Two votes for 'Wilder is a great manager' before I voted!
Not sure if it was Wilder and Knill
or Wendy fans Alan Biggs and Rob Staton
 
Shall I put you down as undecided then?🤔
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)
 
My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)

Nice try. We're not having you back Ruben.
 
My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)
I agree with everything that you say, almost… barely. That’s why I voted to keep wilder as we restructure and sell the players of value to sustain the football club
 
My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)

I love posts like this.

I do have a few points of note though...
  • Ivan Toney - played 44 games and scored 10 goals under Wilder in 2014/15, resulting in Newcastle signing him at the end of that season.
  • Calvert-Lewin - signed on loan by Wilder at Northampton - scored 8 goals in 26 games... recalled by United in January... Northampton won the league
  • Regan Slater - made 1 League appearance, 1 FA Cup Appearance and 1 FA Trophy appearance for United.
    • David Brooks made 37 apps under Wilder before being sold for £12m
      • Slater wasn't chosen over Brooks as he played less games and isn't a winger
    • Ramsdale was 19yo when he was sold and the £1m fee was used to fund a title winning 100points season
      • Slater wasn't chosen over Ramsdale, because Ramsdale is a Goalkeeper
    • Calvert-Lewin was sold at the same time as Ramsdale to help rebuild the squad and win the league
      • Wilder opted for Leon Clarke instead who went on to score 9 goals that season and 32 overall for Sheffield United
        • Slater wasn't chosen over DCL as Slater is a midfielder, not a striker
    • Che Adams - again was used to fund the squad that won the League 1 title.
  • Hackford made 1 substitute appearance in the 2020-21 covid season. He was 16 years old at the time and considered United's best talent at the club.
    • Iliman Ndiaye had returned from a loan spell at semi-professional club Hyde United. He was given 11 minutes at the end of the season under Paul Heckingbottom
      • Wilder didn't select Hackford over Ndiaye
    • William Osula signed a professional contract in July 2021... under Paul Heckingbottom
    • Hackford over Brooks? Which one? David left in 2018 so i assume Andre Brooks
      • Andre Brooks is a winger/Central Midfield player. He made his debut aged 19 in 2022 under Paul Heckingbottom.
      • Hackford (the striker), didn't play over the 17 year old winger
 



MAYBE Micky Adams?

🤣🤣🤣
its a long time ago now. but i feel like we were already on the way down because of decisions from mccabe & poor recruitment & Micky Adams was just the unfortunate person to be the fall guy

he didnt sign nosworthy, calve, parrino, ertl, bogdanovic, fallout with paddy kenny & bring in simonsen. bring in leon britton & bypass the midfield
 
My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)
90 posts since Oct 2024 and the ones I cared to check mentioned Wilder.
 
youve lost the argument here selles, adkins, weir, heath. maybe micky adams are far more damaging. it seems like you hate him personally
And you didn’t even need to mention the most damaging, Robson! It took until 2016 to find a manager who could finally repair the damage Robson did to the club. Now, who was that again?
 
Anyone remember what this idiot's original username was?

It's definitely him but can't remember what he used to post as.

And he 100% hates Wilder. Our Chris must have fucked his wife at some point I reckon 🤔 .
 
My opinion is clear.
He is clearly the most damaging, THE WORST manager in sufc history
His money signings are appalling
eg Zero return on even club record signings Freeman, Robinson/Burke, Mousset, McDonkey, Brewster
His judgement of young players is appalling
eg failed to recognize two future England internationals at fourth division Northampton town (Ivan Toney, DCL )
eg Slater over (Adams,) DCL, Ramsdale, Brookes et al
eg Hackford over Iliman, Osula, Brooks et al
His tactics comprise for the last three seasons of the worst anti-football facets of a perverse Spanish way of playing with players unable to counter them
eg inverted wingers and aimless possession football passing endlessly in front of the opposition
The football is boring, destroys and disables even top players and has failed for three seasons
His player favourites bias.
An appalling bullying and blame everyone else so called personalty
ps I will be the one vote for you were right about should have brought Warnock in to assess the squad PROPERLY under sensible tactics with players playing correctly in their best positions.
and poetic justice for Wilder stabbing him in the back at Boro (were he failed) and Heckingbottom (and Selles?) here (were he has failed yet again)
I’ve chosen the “sack him now” option, though I don’t think they’ll have a clue who to replace him with.. that’s why I HOPE they have an actual interview process and not just pick some numpty.
 
Best option would be, announce a DoF and supporting cast that run the football side of the club - who try to appoint a manager (not COH) before June starts.
 
Does any other club have a manager who has done what Wilder has done for their club - who have fans that seem to actively hate him despite all he has done for us?

I can understand being unsure, disgruntled with performances or generally feeling like his time has passed.
But the vitriol some of you spout on here about the best manager in my lifetime (33) is honestly baffling to me.
 



Does any other club have a manager who has done what Wilder has done for their club - who have fans that seem to actively hate him despite all he has done for us?

I can understand being unsure, disgruntled with performances or generally feeling like his time has passed.
But the vitriol some of you spout on here about the best manager in my lifetime (33) is honestly baffling to me.
Not sure people hate him. Think people have lost patience with the performances.

Nobody is denying he did an incredible job in his first spell.
 

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