Are We in a Genuine Relegation Battle?

[Swannyblade]

If you look incapable of scoring and incapable of keeping a clean sheet, I’d say you’re ripe for a relegation battle

 

[jono_t2000]

I've gone undecided.

I think on one hand the cream always rises to the top and this squad easily has enough to avoid a relegation battle.

On the other hand, I'm concerned that we're getting to the point where autos are now out the question, and does this team have the right mentality to continue to put in performances when it becomes clear essentially nothing to play for.... especially with coming so close last season.

If the latter is the case, then we could easily see ourselves limping meekly towards relegation.

 

[TJ blade]

98 forum members need to change their bedsheets

Mines as dry as they come pal.... just explain to me who's going to get the goals! To get us out of the shit please

 

[bruce]

I'm obviously a bed wetter as I have voted yes.

Form this season and towards the end of last season shows we are.

I just cant see where the goals come from and as has already been mentioned above, other teams are picking up wins and we can't even pick a point up.

Hope im wrong, but I didnt see much fight at the end of last season and im not seeing any this season.

I was thinking when we re-appointed CW.
Has he ever been in a relegation battle and got out of one?

I think he did with Halifax? They might have gone down in the end, but I think that was because of their finances, not because of points gained/lost through results. I think it was a last day of the season survival, but then they subsequently went down or maybe even out of business because of they were insolvent.

 

[TJ blade]

We are 5 points adrift from religation, of course we are in a relegation battle we certainly aren’t in a promotion battle even if we did get 92 points last season or we once lost 4-0 to pigs.

Best we say hope for is Wilder changes formation and we creep up to top of bottom third. He might think he’s the messiah and 50% of the fans might believe it but his reputation is wearing thin.

The only hope he can save this club from relegation is the January window! But I'm not holding my breath on that, we could be well adrift come then. The fckg shocking recruitment season after season, might just be our downfall, and we end up in L1! To all the soft twats what preach " another bed wetter" fucking wake up! This group of players are fucking shite!

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

We won't go down, I'm absolutely as certain as I can be of that.

You can all stick it up my arse if we do!

 

[bruce]

No clean sheets and more than 8 hours without scoring suggests we are probably going down.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Wonder what odds we are now to be relegated, and on the flip side to be promoted.

 

[TJ blade]

We won't go down, I'm absolutely as certain as I can be of that.

You can all stick it up my arse if we do!

Tha gunner have a sore arse pal

 

[Houston_Blade]

Wonder what odds we are now to be relegated, and on the flip side to be promoted.

17/2 according to Sky Bet, pigs are 1/14

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Tha gunner have a sore arse pal

I'm safe. We're not going down, and even if we did, the tiddlers on this forum wouldn't hurt so much.

 

[Bla blade]

Looking at our league history it seems when we have a really poor season we’ve only avoided relegation 4 times (1921, 30, 54 and 65). In other words we don’t do close escapes very well. Since we were relegated in 2007 there have been only 6 seasons when we’ve not either gone up/down or been in a play-off. So we need to get up that table quickly or buck the trend of history!!

 

[Sky Blues]

Of course it's too early to say you will be in a relegation battle at the end of the season. But you're certainly in one right now.

Sheffield Wednesday are very poor. They will be lucky to be in with a chance of staying up in the last game of the season yet they've got 4 times more points than you've scored goals. That tells a story.

You will start picking up points under Wilder. He will bring back the siege mentally where you pick up points when not playing well. But the goals have got to come from somewhere.

The January window will be important. Bring in goals and you will be safe. Bring in more cheap options/not good enough and the relegation battle could well be on.

 

[Blade56]

The only hope he can save this club from relegation is the January window! But I'm not holding my breath on that, we could be well adrift come then. The fckg shocking recruitment season after season, might just be our downfall, and we end up in L1! To all the soft twats what preach " another bed wetter" fucking wake up! This group of players are fucking shite!

See our latest physio favourite looks like being Ings. When will we ever learn, once good players that no one else will touch wanting to sign for us are looking for an easy 2-3 yrs int treatment room.

One exception was Souter. Brilliant player that genuinely got a horrific injury. Then we sent him back and left a gapping hole to sign another project player that didn’t work out. Whatever we paid for Cannon was too much.

As for Wilder, I’ve moved to sit on the fence, hope he can be the messiah that saves us but can’t see it. Didn’t want him back second or third time. SUFC are no longer about football it’s about nieve inept owners and polishing Wilders ego. If he is wanting to help he should have stayed away and admitted time is up.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but considering where we are I can't help wonder whether the owners have tried to change too much, too quickly in sacking Wilder and overhauling a side that amounted a huge points tally.

I know it's early yet but I haven't seen a Leeds or a Burnley yet and the league looks very open yet I wouldn’t even fancy us against Wednesday at the moment.

 

[GVBlade]

Time for a Christmas party perhaps

 

[UTB Blade]

Time for a Christmas party perhaps

 

[GymClassHero]

We won't go down, I'm absolutely as certain as I can be of that.

You can all stick it up my arse if we do!

I'd get the Vaseline ready if I were you. We're going down

 

[GymClassHero]

17/2 according to Sky Bet, pigs are 1/14

That's fucking good odds. I'd stick a tenner on to soften the blow

 

[mattbianco1]

Mines as dry as they come pal.... just explain to me who's going to get the goals! To get us out of the shit please

No clean sheets and more than 8 hours without scoring suggests we are probably going down.

At this stage of the 2023/24 season, Middlesbrough and Wednesday (Xisco) were both on 1pt each.

It was game #14 when the pigs picked up their first win of the season. As they entered November, they had 6 points and were 8 points from safety.

The pigs finished 3pts above the drop and Middlesbrough finished 8th, 4pts off the Play Offs.

Our squad is miles better than the squad the pigs had and in Wilder we have a manager who knows the division and he knows how to win games.

Selles was our Xisco. Wilder is Danny Rohl, but a much more experienced version, with a much better squad.

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Yes. There's probably only 4 shittish teams this season and a lot of teams who'll comfortably finish mid table aswell as about 10 who'll be there abouts for play offs by end of season.

So we have to get our shit together and quickly! If Oxford beat us this wknd and other results go against us we could find ourselves 3 wins adrift at the bottom and play even more nervously going forward.

 

[GymClassHero]

Yes. There's probably only 4 shittish teams this season and a lot of teams who'll comfortably finish mid table aswell as about 10 who'll be there abouts for play offs by end of season.

So we have to get our shit together and quickly! If Oxford beat us this wknd and other results go against us we could find ourselves 3 wins adrift at the bottom and play even more nervously going forward.

The Oxford game is absolutely must win, no ifs or buts. We lose that and results go against, as you've rightly pointed out, we could be 8 adrift. That's not a small deficit to overturn.

 

[ekke287]

Two managers have had seven games, a full preseason and a number of months to get a tune out of this squad, and the net results are 2 goals, zero points and fuck knows how many conceded.

Now that fall guy Selles has gone, the reality is even harder to comprehend, that the players weren’t sacking it off, they simply aren’t good enough.

I expect CW will get us moving up the table to finish safe but not troubling promotion, and fans will be ready to build the statue. Unfortunately next year we’re out of parachute payments and with a board seemingly panic buying and changing their approach after every power nap.

This season now is the same as the last, except our narrow wins have swung to be comfortable defeats.

Let’s say we go ahead in a game, is anyone confident we could see it out? The writing was on the wall for all to see that we were riding our luck most games, but because we were winning and had “one of our own” in charge, it became irrelevant.

We’re not even in the “find out” stage of the “fuck around and find out” model anymore. Tanganga looks a decent signing, but literally everyone else haven’t pulled any trees up this season, and we look a total mess from front to back.

Best start believing in relegation battles lads, we’re in one, and at the moment we have no weapons.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Look, when the pipe dream of promotion finally disappears into the distance, the hurt we’re feeling now will subside. It’s the hope that’s killing us at the moment, but when the panic is replaced by reality we’ll all be in a better place.
After Saturdays performance, it became apparent Wilder has a gargantuan task ahead of him.

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

What was blatantly obvious on Saturday, was that the transfer window has been nothing short of disastrous.Losing 2 top end Championship players, and other proven championship reliability, and replacing them with, League 1 standard, (Tanganga excepted) or young lads who are a million miles off the first team, was utterly ridiculous.
Yes, Selles was out of his depth but so are a lot of the players we have left.Make no mistake we’re in a relegation battle, and one we could easily end up losing, even before we get to January’s transfer window.

 

[Bell4]

We won't go down, I'm absolutely as certain as I can be of that.

You can all stick it up my arse if we do!

What do you have in mind ?

 

[bruce]

At this stage of the 2023/24 season, Middlesbrough and Wednesday (Xisco) were both on 1pt each.

It was game #14 when the pigs picked up their first win of the season. As they entered November, they had 6 points and were 8 points from safety.

The pigs finished 3pts above the drop and Middlesbrough finished 8th, 4pts off the Play Offs.

Our squad is miles better than the squad the pigs had and in Wilder we have a manager who knows the division and he knows how to win games.

Selles was our Xisco. Wilder is Danny Rohl, but a much more experienced version, with a much better squad.

Fair comment and I hope you are right.
But I note that both of those sides had scored 4 goals after 6 games. Not a lot of goals, but 4 times as many as us and shows that they did at least carry some goal threat. And that is what I think our ongoing problem is. I think Wilder may be able to tighten us up a bit defensively, but I just do not see how we are going to score many goals and therefore we will struggle to pick up points quickly.

 

[bruce]

Looking at our league history it seems when we have a really poor season we’ve only avoided relegation 4 times (1921, 30, 54 and 65). In other words we don’t do close escapes very well. Since we were relegated in 2007 there have been only 6 seasons when we’ve not either gone up/down or been in a play-off. So we need to get up that table quickly or buck the trend of history!!

1984-5 was a pretty poor season. We were in a relegation struggle for all of it bar the first few games. But we avoided relegation. Probably more down to how poor the sides around us were, rather than anything positive from ourselves. But we still avoided it.
1992-3 went down to the last few games (technically we still needed something from the last game). The final table is a bit misleading as to how the season went and how close we were to relegation. There was only 3 points between us in 14th place and Crystal Palace in 20th.We won our last 3 games, but we're still only 3 points clear, which shows how survival was touch and go.

 

[radio]

Of course we are in a relegation battle, despite the euphoria when Wilder returned I saw his main job as keeping us up (we had P5 L5 ). , For some reason and it is quite illogical but good players can go on losing runs which are difficult to stop ,( the too good to go down brigade) , equally so , average teams get in the habbit of winning. ,, I saw , what I thought was vast over enthusiasm of our situation last week with talk of play offs or even automatic , yes both are possible but "small steps" , we need a point ,we needs a win we need to climb the table ,we need to get out of the relegation places , Despite the predictions of 3-0 ,4-0 , 5-0 v Charlton , I was prepared to punch the air with a point at 0-0 ,we need points , absolute sucker punch their winner , to hold out for 0-0 would have been a start .I get there's a long way to go but for those doubting our situation ,, "if" we win on Saturday we are still bottom ,"if" we win our next 2 games ( Oxford A, Southampton H);we will even then probably still be in the bottom 3 ,, despite the optimism of promotion I would like to be above the bottom 3 by the next international break , I was confident we would win The League, with Wilder half way through the 2 year rebuild , until the close season experiment failed, I am relieved Wilder is back I cannot think of anyone else who I would trust to get us out of the mess we have put ourselves in , and fearing the worse , if it is League One next season I would want Wilder then as well ,, Am I overly worried ? , I hope so ,, Do I think we will go down ? Probably not (;we are too good to go down--- see above ) , do I think we will go up via playoffs or automatic ? We might , , We have the right manager we have good enough players we just somehow need to get rid of the losing habbit UTB COYRAWW

 

[54yrblade]

If we lose another five games in a row I think the players will be chased out of Sheffield.

I'd be interested in the reaction to Wilder too, if that panned out. Or would we reserve vilifification only for those none Blades/ Sheffield types in the management world?