Outgoing? Arblaster

[Greasy Chap Butty]

I can see ArBlaster gone by 1st Sept if it’s for going rate of £25m to allow the rebuild now and not JTW.

If Anel goes as well Mepham/Worrell in, Gus (if we hang on) goes CMF to replace ArBlaster, Burrows moves left and mccallum/RND at LB.

New PL striker and cover player for DMF and then it’s tinkering in JTW not finishing rebuild

First sentence is key. The timing.
If we can't spend until it's a done deal, high likelihood it would be JTW until we could replace him with others.

 

[brownblade]

If you think we'd turn down 20-25 million for him you're nuts. We are a championship team and although he's a good young player his return in terms of goals and assists is pretty non existent. He would be easily replaceable. Some of the figures being banded about are just crazy.

Goals and assists are important, but not every player provides them. Oli has shown that he will, mind you. £25mill would be the absolute minimum fee in my mind.

But I don't think we'll want to sell or he'll want to leave. He'd obviously have to think long and hard if a "top 6" club came in offering crazy wages. But why leave the club you support when you're in the first team and a decent chance at a good season?

Hopefully the boy stays a few years.

 

[brownblade]

Agree with that sentiment. Of course you sell a player or an asset when they/it is at its maximum value (including potential value). But iro Arblaster, he is only just starting out on his career, is tied to a long contract, and is currently happy to be a Blades player. He has vast amounts of potential and the value in the market (I.e. the most ge is ever going to be worth) is in all probability, only going to go up from here with the trajectory of his career.

Unless there is an absolute necessity to be selling the lad from a financial perspective, then we would be absolutely mad to contemplate selling him unless a totally ridiculous offer comes in and blows us out of the water. There is said to be 3 x PL teams interested in the lad at around the £20m figure. There is a reason for that as they can see his potential and know they could potentially buy an asset who is a young technically gifted English lad with vast potential, who they can use and then flogged for a real profit in thr future if he goes on to do what they think he will do. If Archie Gray (who I was never overly impressed with personally) goes for £40m then we really need to stop thinking that £20m for our own young star who is captain material in the future, is only worth £20m. He's worth a lot more and the 3 clubs interested know it.

We should be telling them it starts at £40m or do one. If we are still in the Championship when he gets down to 2 years on his contract then maybe at that time we seriously start thinking about selling him for an optimum price. But right now you keep your main assets if you want to get back to the PL.

It amazes me just how many see a few £ signs and want to flog our crown jewels. I'm fine with player 'churn' but only when we have had proper use of that player and we have enjoyed watching them play and they are then sold at a premium. Barring a serious imjury, Arblasters value in the market is only going one way. Keep him.

Amen.

 

[TopBoy]

I love Arblaster, and he's a real joy to watch play, but the Premier League is very much all about strong physical and athletic types now, so I wonder what his ceiling is.

 

[Koh Samui Blade]

Loads of suggestions and ideas about adding a "sell on clause".
We very rarely get anything out of these, the clubs just sort out a "work around", and we end up with nowt!
If we are selling anyone, get the full value upfront..

 

[bladesmanluke]

No just no. Figures banded around of 20-25m are nothing short of a joke. We shouldn't even be talking about anything less than double that. It's 2024 and OA is a future England International and the only player we've got that looked comfortable in the premier league.

 

[Mouth of the South]

I can't imagine CW would want Arblaster to leave - if players want to leave and/or funds are required, I would expect Anel and Souza to be preferred.

A good season for Arblaster would see his value increase further - I'm not sure his stock is at its highest right now - mainly inflated due to a good start to his career and potential.

 

[gaffablade]

This is a nonsense post.

Blaster ain’t going anywhere

Just signed a new contract and no club is going to stump up £25m for the lad

Move on.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

He's not going to want to leave, at least not now.

I'm not saying he's going to be another Dane Whitehouse but at the very least he's got a golden opportunity to be a key player in getting us promoted back to the top flight before he moves on, which would guarantee him instant Blades Legend status.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

This is a nonsense post.

Blaster ain’t going anywhere

Just signed a new contract and no club is going to stump up £25m for the lad

Move on.

If they did he'd go, I know people are saying Leeds got £40m for Archie Gray but I just can't imagine any situation where we reject a bid of £25m for any of our players

 

[Weasel]

If they did he'd go, I know people are saying Leeds got £40m for Archie Gray but I just can't imagine any situation where we reject a bid of £25m for any of our players

That's cos you are institutionalised into the Blades selling mode from past owners (tbf, easily done!).

I'd like to think that if we had an offer of £25m for Arblaster, we would tell them to add another £10m to the figure before we talked again. Grays fee has set the precedence on young English midfield players and I don't see what we shouldn't get parity with what Leeds would want in the same scenario.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

That's cos you are institutionalised into the Blades selling mode from past owners (tbf, easily done!).

I'd like to think that if we had an offer of £25m for Arblaster, we would tell them to add another £10m to the figure before we talked again. Grays fee has set the precedence on young English midfield players and I don't see what we shouldn't get parity with what Leeds would want in the same scenario.

I agree, I just don’t think we would do what you’ve said. It’s a fine balance clubs have to weigh up at 20/21 you either go on to be a £40/50m player or when you turn 22/23 (still young I know) you end up being a £15/20m player.

Right now I think the gamble is still there to take, if we were getting £25m at 21/22 ie next summer I presume that would be taken seriously if we’re still in this league.

 

[Pintor75]

If the new owners are serious about building this club he won't be sold, neither should Hamer, Brooks, O'Hare etc, they should have the money to be comfortable paying the bills and therefore withstand any bids coming in for one of our outstanding young players, look to the future,we don't want to be a selling club anymore, utb

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

If the new owners are serious about building this club he won't be sold, neither should Hamer, Brooks, O'Hare etc, they should have the money to be comfortable paying the bills and therefore withstand any bids coming in for one of our outstanding young players, look to the future,we don't want to be a selling club anymore, utb

Depends what their financial thinking is. If it's develop players and sell, and yo-yo. Then he'd go.

 

[COME BACK CHED]

We dont do sensible , when it comes to sales , but stupid to let him go for under 50million ,in todays market .

 

[A Storm of Blades]

You cant drive your 16

Drive my 16 what?

 

[Blade58]

Can’t say what the situation is regards Brentford and Southampton, but I think the Ipswich interest might be dead in the water?

 

[Blade56]

Just imagine what profit they’ll make offloading Toney. Bought for £15m…

 

[finlaytheblade]

Depends what their financial thinking is. If it's develop players and sell, and yo-yo. Then he'd go.

Surely buying the club for 100 million or something like that tells you they have funds to develop us! The Prince has said he's Selling because he can't take us to the next level. Selling a player who has great potential is counter productive really.Any player who wants to go fair enough! Blaster surely ain't one of those ! He's a Blade through and through selling in the future fair enough if he out grows us.

 

[Pintor75]

Surely buying the club for 100 million or something like that tells you they have funds to develop us! The Prince has said he's Selling because he can't take us to the next level. Selling a player who has great potential is counter productive really.Any player who wants to go fair enough! Blaster surely ain't one of those ! He's a Blade through and through selling in the future fair enough if he out grows us.

Exactly, owners should be thinking of premiership, not buying to stand still

 

[ghandi]

Surely buying the club for 100 million or something like that tells you they have funds to develop us! The Prince has said he's Selling because he can't take us to the next level. Selling a player who has great potential is counter productive really.Any player who wants to go fair enough! Blaster surely ain't one of those ! He's a Blade through and through selling in the future fair enough if he out grows us.

Not necessarily. What's to stop the new owners placing the debt on club when they complete the takeover just like the Glazers did at Manure.

 

[Paul1963]

I’m sure I read on here that new measures have been put in place to stop that from happening after Burnley’s takeover

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Surely buying the club for 100 million or something like that tells you they have funds to develop us! The Prince has said he's Selling because he can't take us to the next level. Selling a player who has great potential is counter productive really.Any player who wants to go fair enough! Blaster surely ain't one of those ! He's a Blade through and through selling in the future fair enough if he out grows us.

Does it? Don't know why they are buying the club.
If it can yo-yo and make money through things like Blaster sales, that's a 'good business' to a non-supporter.
This is the main issue with what people are expecting. Just because they've bought the club, doesn't necessarily mean they'll be spunkin money
.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Exactly, owners should be thinking of premiership, not buying to stand still

Why? That costs a shit ton to maintain. Are they investors or rich hobbyists?

 

[Pintor75]

Why? That costs a shit ton to maintain. Are they investors or rich hobbyists?

Buying a football club costs money, most investors buy hoping to succeed and the majority dont, as we all know, but I don't think they'd buy thinking we'll just keep plodding on, you back a horse to win, not to see it run ok. Just my opinion

 

[adiosmiamigo]

If they did he'd go, I know people are saying Leeds got £40m for Archie Gray but I just can't imagine any situation where we reject a bid of £25m for any of our players

If any of our players help us get promoted(unlikely,I know)25squillion will be nowt,tell whoever comes for 'em,fxxk right off.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

If any of our players help us get promoted(unlikely,I know)25squillion will be nowt,tell whoever comes for 'em,fxxk right off.

It's what we were saying about Ndiaye, I've stuck by that we should have sold Berge but kept Ndiaye. The Archer deal was in the end an expensive loan deal, NDiaye staying would have been similar as we'd have only had him for another season & lost him for free.

I'm yet to see that game-changing ability from Arblaster like Ndiaye albeit in different positions. There's a lot more to see from him though IMO

 

[adiosmiamigo]

It's what we were saying about Ndiaye, I've stuck by that we should have sold Berge but kept Ndiaye. The Archer deal was in the end an expensive loan deal, NDiaye staying would have been similar as we'd have only had him for another season & lost him for free.

I'm yet to see that game-changing ability from Arblaster like Ndiaye albeit in different positions. There's a lot more to see from him though IMO

I'd like to think Ollie would do a Whitehouse,refuse to be transferred,not likely with agents and suchlike,mores the pity,I believe he has it in him to be a great player,hopefully for us.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

I'd like to think Ollie would do a Whitehouse,refuse to be transferred,not likely with agents and suchlike,mores the pity,I believe he has it in him to be a great player,hopefully for us.

The difference is,we have him on a long contract,we DONT have to sell.

 

[Oohaah! Bob Bookah!]

The difference is,we have him on a long contract,we DONT have to sell.

and he doesn't want to leave!