Outgoing? Arblaster

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He's probably worth £20m-£25m with him being under contract for several years. The club would be silly to turn that money down, albeit for a promising young player.

He's home grown so that money is all profit, plus with a decent sell on fee it makes good business sense.

We could replace him and upgrade a few other positions with that sort of money.
 
Sander off to Fulham for £20m. I imagine it’d be a similar amount for Blaster, maybe an extra 25% for the young and English tax. Can’t see him really fancying any of the 3 teams mentioned but if someone a bit more Prem sustainable comes in…
 
If you think we'd turn down 20-25 million for him you're nuts. We are a championship team and although he's a good young player his return in terms of goals and assists is pretty non existent. He would be easily replaceable. Some of the figures being banded about are just crazy.
 
If you think we'd turn down 20-25 million for him you're nuts. We are a championship team and although he's a good young player his return in terms of goals and assists is pretty non existent. He would be easily replaceable. Some of the figures being banded about are just crazy.
What if I told you, not all the best players score 20+ goals.
He's 2 games into his first full season, and has already got his first.
 
If you think we'd turn down 20-25 million for him you're nuts. We are a championship team and although he's a good young player his return in terms of goals and assists is pretty non existent. He would be easily replaceable. Some of the figures being banded about are just crazy.

Personally I hope he stays

Sell the players that aren’t contributing or at least try to move them on. Slimane for one.

I only see Blaster improving with age. Two footed, has good passing range, knows where his team mates are and has a good tackle on him. As for his goal scoring record, one in two games this season ain’t that bad. The fact that premier league clubs are interested tells you that they see he’s well capable of playing in the PL and we’ve already seen that anyway.

If we want to be successful, we keep our best players and build around them not keep selling them. I hope these new owners have a similar view
 
If you think we'd turn down 20-25 million for him you're nuts. We are a championship team and although he's a good young player his return in terms of goals and assists is pretty non existent. He would be easily replaceable. Some of the figures being banded about are just crazy.
His role at the moment isn’t measured by goals & assists.
 
Personally I hope he stays

Sell the players that aren’t contributing or at least try to move them on. Slimane for one.

I only see Blaster improving with age. Two footed, has good passing range, knows where his team mates are and has a good tackle on him. As for his goal scoring record, one in two games this season ain’t that bad. The fact that premier league clubs are interested tells you that they see he’s well capable of playing in the PL and we’ve already seen that anyway.

If we want to be successful, we keep our best players and build around them not keep selling them. I hope these new owners have a similar view
agree about slimane the english game is too physical for him i think we will move him on
 
If someone offered to buy your house that you liked and didn’t need to sell, would you agree to it? If so would you sell it at market value or at a premium?

For the longest time we’ve been known as a selling club and I’ve lost count of the players we’ve sold because we’ve “had to”.

One of the reasons I’m looking forward to this season is because we have some great young talent and I’m proud that United have developed them rather than bought them. Let’s hang onto them.
 
Continually selling your best players hasn't been a great policy for United over the years.
Some folk get excited by £ signs and then end up wondering where the money went after it gets dribbled away on expensive loans and lower standard players, sometimes both at the same time.
 
If Archie Gray is worth £40m in today’s market, then that has to be the opening bid for OA.

You couldn’t replace him for £20m, so why would we sell him at that?
 

If Archie Gray is worth £40m in today’s market, then that has to be the opening bid for OA.

You couldn’t replace him for £20m, so why would we sell him at that?
We have a better player playing on the LW that could easily replace him.

Take the money and add more quality to the squad.
 
We have a better player playing on the LW that could easily replace him.

Take the money and add more quality to the squad.
Assuming you mean Brookes? I wouldn’t agree with that, besides why would you sell any young emerging local talent, to replace it with…”more quality”… he’s top quality, so what’s the point of selling him to buy another clubs academy product or someone five year older, for the same or similar money? Madness, at this stage imo
 
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Assuming you mean Brookes? I wouldn’t agree with that, besides why would you sell any young emerging talent, to replace it with………”more quality”…… he’s top quality, so what would be the point?
The point is we have £20m plus to reinvest as it's all profit.

And Brooks is playing RW. Gus is a natural CM.
 
The point is we have £20m plus to reinvest as it's all profit.

And Brooks is playing RW. Gus is a natural CM.

Absolutely, selling Arblaster would solve an issue of getting Hamer in his best position and allow us to strengthen 3 other positions.

For anyone saying that we shouldn't sell for 20-25 million + add-ons is just gambling.

Arblaster is good but nothing to take your breath away over.

There is a chance that he may go for more in the future but that is a gamble that's just as likely to not come off than actually happen.

I would prefer not to sell him obviously but I think the correct strategic decision from a business perspective would be to sell in all honesty.

(PS, people saying he's shown his worth to be as much as Archie Gray are in fantasy land)
 
Agreed, he’s a step behind Archie IMHO
Agree, but that’s exactly why we should take an informed gamble and keep him for another 12 months minimum if the offers are only around 20-25m.

I was sad to see Osula go but I agreed with the club taking the money because it really is a guess whether he makes it, despite his obvious physical attributes. But Blaster is a bit different for me. He’s got the technique, tactical brain, mentality and enough physicality to be a top, top player. He’s properly two-footed (see through ball to Brooks v Preston) and has England age-group pedigree. Even if we finish 5th / 6th but he has a good season (say 10-15 combined goals / assists), that profile of player is 40-50m. Crazy, but that’s the market we operate in. Or, if we do go up, we’ll have a ready-made, 22 year old, premiership midfielder.

We have to trade to progress. But sometimes you need to stick for a year or two, rather than twist.
 
What’s the actual excitement factor of Archie Gray?

I must confess in recent years I’ve been more of a United fan than an overall football fan so I’ve paid far less attention to other teams and it seems Gray played most of his matches in the Championship when we were in the Premier League. I saw he came on for the last 12 minutes for Spurs.

He doesn’t have a scoring record of great note and he doesn’t have an assist record of great note either.

He’s English (or Scottish) and he’s 1.87m, so a decent height.

But what is it that makes him a 40m player? Is he a remarkable passer of the ball? Does he cover ever blade of grass? Does he read the game remarkably well?

40m appears a lot. Was he deemed worth it?

To some of the points above, the selling club has no requirement to offload at market value. If we see Arblaster as a key component to promotion then it should take a ridiculous fee for us to even consider.

For those saying that selling him puts Hamer in his preferred position, I’d say so does selling Souza and Arblaster has a far higher ceiling than Souza.
 
I can see ArBlaster gone by 1st Sept if it’s for going rate of £25m to allow the rebuild now and not JTW.

If Anel goes as well Mepham/Worrell in, Gus (if we hang on) goes CMF to replace ArBlaster, Burrows moves left and mccallum/RND at LB.

New PL striker and cover player for DMF and then it’s tinkering in JTW not finishing rebuild
 
I can see ArBlaster gone by 1st Sept if it’s for going rate of £25m to allow the rebuild now and not JTW.

If Anel goes as well Mepham/Worrell in, Gus (if we hang on) goes CMF to replace ArBlaster, Burrows moves left and mccallum/RND at LB.

New PL striker and cover player for DMF and then it’s tinkering in JTW not finishing rebuild
New owners should be able to cover costs of strengthening for a crack at promotion without selling our crown jewels.
What's the point of a takeover if not.
 
New owners should be able to cover costs of strengthening for a crack at promotion without selling our crown jewels.
What's the point of a takeover if not.
Selling a player at the most they are ever going to be worth is also a good tactic no matter where in the ownership stage the owners are. Totally different markets and situations but when we sold Slew we sold him for the most he would go for on his career. That was a win for us.
 
Selling a player at the most they are ever going to be worth is also a good tactic no matter where in the ownership stage the owners are. Totally different markets and situations but when we sold Slew we sold him for the most he would go for on his career. That was a win for us.

Agree with that sentiment. Of course you sell a player or an asset when they/it is at its maximum value (including potential value). But iro Arblaster, he is only just starting out on his career, is tied to a long contract, and is currently happy to be a Blades player. He has vast amounts of potential and the value in the market (I.e. the most ge is ever going to be worth) is in all probability, only going to go up from here with the trajectory of his career.

Unless there is an absolute necessity to be selling the lad from a financial perspective, then we would be absolutely mad to contemplate selling him unless a totally ridiculous offer comes in and blows us out of the water. There is said to be 3 x PL teams interested in the lad at around the £20m figure. There is a reason for that as they can see his potential and know they could potentially buy an asset who is a young technically gifted English lad with vast potential, who they can use and then flogged for a real profit in thr future if he goes on to do what they think he will do. If Archie Gray (who I was never overly impressed with personally) goes for £40m then we really need to stop thinking that £20m for our own young star who is captain material in the future, is only worth £20m. He's worth a lot more and the 3 clubs interested know it.

We should be telling them it starts at £40m or do one. If we are still in the Championship when he gets down to 2 years on his contract then maybe at that time we seriously start thinking about selling him for an optimum price. But right now you keep your main assets if you want to get back to the PL.

It amazes me just how many see a few £ signs and want to flog our crown jewels. I'm fine with player 'churn' but only when we have had proper use of that player and we have enjoyed watching them play and they are then sold at a premium. Barring a serious imjury, Arblasters value in the market is only going one way. Keep him.
 
Selling a player at the most they are ever going to be worth is also a good tactic no matter where in the ownership stage the owners are. Totally different markets and situations but when we sold Slew we sold him for the most he would go for on his career. That was a win for us.
Slew never played in the premiership so no comparison .Never pushed on at Blackburn and we were in the 1st division at the time.
Blaster is a youth international as well! No comparison between the two of em!.
 
I don't see Gray as better than blaster. I see Gray as overrated and Blaster underrated

There is a lot of hype with Archie Gray, mainly due to him being part of the Leeds 'brand' and him being from the family of a Leeds United legend. Put it this way, if Arblaster was at Leeds and his old man had been a LUFC star, you can bet your bottom dollar that he would also be valued at the same figure (if not more).

He has age on his side granted, but I have never been overly impressed when I've seen him play. Much ado about nothing. Arblaster looks a far better player imo.
 

i think if any offer of 20m comes in for any of our players we will sell wilder will have targets lined up for any of the 4 players we could receive bids for
 

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