Any other board in the PL

[Sean Thornton]

So low wages are needed but then you blame the recruitment? How does that actually correlate? Please advise which players you would have signed on the low wages?

The points I make are not to provide an unfair view, they are facts;

1. The court documents in the McCabe court case confirm the promised personal investment from the Prince never materialised.
2. The Prince confirmed that January ‘21 transfers would be made. Days later he confirmed the opposite to be true.
3. The Prince confirmed that investment in the infrastructure would be a ‘priority’. Again this has not happened despite the significant additional revenue generated from 2 seasons in PL and subsequent parachute payments.

I am merely pointing out, to the clowns that believe Wilder forced this outcome, the type of man he is working for and the challenges he faced.

Why else would a fairly sensible chap, being handsomely paid for his dream job, force a move away. It, of course, makes absolutely no sense at all.

The only thing l’ll comment on is regarding the infrastructure. Covid has affected income. The business plans have had to be torn up and redone. It’s quite obvious that infrastructure spending - other than fixing the roof - would go on the back burner. As a reason for CW being unhappy, It’s a non starter because anyone should understand budget cuts had to be made. But it looks good to some to harp on about it. If funds had gone on that rather than the team, imagine the outpourings then. It’s a comfortable red herring for those with no balance in any of this.

 

[blad3sman]

Not necessarily true though is it? Farke and Dyche didnt get the boot. Both had "credit" in the bank for getting teams promoted on a shoe string budget. But Wilder has been removed (not sure if by his own accord or the boards).

Yes results have been awful but lets not forget everyone thought we would be toast in the Championship. Everyone thought we would be toast in the Premier League. One bad season out of 5 doesnt make you a bad manager. The fact we bounced so high was because of his ability to get the best out of the players we had.

To be fair neither farke or dyche wasted 100million+ on signings. Farke never spent a penny last season and don’t think dyche has ever spent that much all the time he’s been at Burnley. You never heard them say they had the best transfer window ever than come out after every match having a go at the board for not backing them enough. I didn’t want wilder to go like this but he’s brought a lot of this on himself

 

[AWetFlannel]

Would have sacked Wilder after the losses we've suffered this season, the fact he has walked suggests the board arent the villains.

If this was any other manager we'd all have been calling for his head. Instead people are looking past this seasons failed signings and some how come to the conclusion the board is at fault.

It boggles my mind.

The delusion is strong, now we'll just say he walked without any evidence.

I think for some fans it's a defense mechanism, the easiest way to get over it is to turn Wilder into a villain.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Well he has tried to leave three times this season after Southampton 3-0 loss and the Everton defeat .So that makes him walking sound probable.He was on borrowed time anyway criticising the owners in the public media instead of face to face.Even if fair or not.

He tried to leave three times?

How did they stop him, taking Francesca hostage?

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I'm getting a bit bored of seeing people moan on social media groups, his pals writing messages constantly on twitter and a various other meltdowns I'm continuously seeing.

He's gone now, he fell out with the board, he didn't want to be here, he had bad season.

But despite all that, Bramall Lane still exists, The football club carries on and we still have a chance to go again next season, and the one after that and so on.

Let's just move on now. Enjoy that fact we witnessed Wilders reign and have the stories to tell. Nothing lasts forever

 

[SilkyBlade]

The only thing l’ll comment on is regarding the infrastructure. Covid has affected income. The business plans have had to be torn up and redone. It’s quite obvious that infrastructure spending - other than fixing the roof - would go on the back burner. As a reason for CW being unhappy, It’s a non starter because anyone should understand budget cuts had to be made. But it looks good to some to harp on about it. If funds had gone on that rather than the team, imagine the outpourings then. It’s a comfortable red herring for those with no balance in any of this.

I think you may have missed the important point....I am simply describing an emerging pattern of behaviour from one side of the fence which may have influenced the decision of the person on the other side. I have read far too many posts on this subject which fail to make this important point. There is blame on both sides but I simply won’t accept any arguments from so called fans that Wilder forced a move away without undue influence.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I think you may have missed the important point....I am simply describing an emerging pattern of behaviour from one side of the fence which may have influenced the decision of the person on the other side. I have read far too many posts on this subject which fail to make this important point. There is blame on both sides but I simply won’t accept any arguments from so called fans that Wilder forced a move away without undue influence.

“So called fans”.

Think l’ll leave it with you.

 

[BushBlade]

Ranieri actually won the Premier League at Leicester, then got the sack the following season and has a better cv than CW

Ranieri lost the seniors players by trying to change their style of play to suit the champions league. Vardy and some of the others stuck the knife in his back. After yesterday it didn’t look like Wilder had lost the players. Quite the opposite.

We’ve spent most of the season arguing whether he should stay or be sacked, it’s happened now, there’s not much point continuing to argue about it, nothing will change. Right now, I feel like I’m sat on a plane and I can see smoke coming out of the engine. I can’t do anything about it other than hope the pilot will get us to the airport and land the plane. There isn’t much point arguing with the fat woman sat next to me about how the mechanic should have been more thorough.

 

[Bladesmanstan]

Why do I keep seeing "the Prince never backed Wilder with his own money"? He owns the club so the clubs money is his money. Also why would he need to put his hands in his pockets to fund the club, when we've just got £250M or whatever for 2 seasons in the PL to fund the club?

 

[Rodley]

Be music to the boards ears this forum. Bet they can't believe how quick you've rolled over and had your bellies tickled.

Can anyone tell if he resigned what they were negotiating for 24 hours? How he was going to clear his desk, closewise or anti-clockwise?

 

[JJBlade]

Yes
If he'd been sacked we wouldn't have had the two day circus, it would have just been, clear your desk and off you pop sunshine. (mind you it's Sheffield United, of course there'd have been a circus)

 

[mancunianblade]

Knill may well go when CW gets his next job.

what I’ve been told is that no severance was put to AK and such he’s staying for the foreseeable.. both him and Wilder signed 3 year deals so he’s perfectly within his right

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I'd get on to the 'so this is what happened' thread on the rumour mill, listen from 41 mins and reassess your views after that.

This, one way or another, through broken promises, lack of funding, or funding that forced CW to go for his 3rd choice targets (thereby reducing the squad quality or ability to compete) is why we're in this mess.

Wilder's conduct in press conference may have been questionable, but it was a bloke frustrated and wanting assurances.

The blame lies with the board.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

After yesterday it didn’t look like Wilder had lost the players. Quite the opposite

The players looked as equally lost as they have all season.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

If the company I work for made decisions that the customers didn’t like? Well, the competition would benefit.

Fans are most often held in contempt because we are bound to come back. I’m not about to follow Wilder to his next job (most especially if it’s Celtic) because the Blades board have let me down.

There’s also the issue that fans of any club are emotionally committed to it whereas the board aren’t (which is probably a good thing when it comes to business.. but football is not a business like any other.. it’s really quite awful, but we love it)

This is so true. Football (or sport) is the rare place where normal forces of supply and demand go out of the window.

 

[scouseblade]

To be fair neither farke or dyche wasted 100million+ on signings. Farke never spent a penny last season and don’t think dyche has ever spent that much all the time he’s been at Burnley. You never heard them say they had the best transfer window ever than come out after every match having a go at the board for not backing them enough. I didn’t want wilder to go like this but he’s brought a lot of this on himself

Yes true but the point is that they stuck with their managers and reaped the reward. Be interesting to see how Norwich go next season. They are the same team essentially minus Godfrey and Lewis. They might get the chequebook out again, unless, their plan is to yo-yo for several seasons. Burnley, well I would say Dyche has performed miracles keeping them in the division but he was again given time at the top end.

You think Wilder might have been disingenuous with that comment? Wanted to sound happy when really he was disappointed but was ready to see how things went. I do recall the fan fair on here when those signings came in, all hailed by most blades as good signings and then within months we were turning on them and the other players signed last season. Wilder wanted Watkins, Cash, Robinson etc etc, he made no secret about them being our top targets. Instead we got who we got and it has not worked. Yes, Wilder picked them but was he hand forced on wages?