Am I Being Cynical ?

[originaltrueblade]

When a player has been shite for ages then in the last two games all of a sudden he puts in brilliant performances by his previous standard am I being cynical or does the attachment have something to do with it?

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Probably not.......

 

[Westran]

I think you're being cynical if you don't mind me saying.

Mcburnie's performances for us have been impacted by more factors than just his ability and desire. There are two long spells where you couldn't really blame him.

Firstly the prem season where we weren't giving him service and everyone was playing shit.

Then last season he was plagued by injury and long covid. He's not going to be able to perform with long covid.

Just to add I also think Billy Sharps form has prevented a few players getting a chance to string a few appearances together and get into their stride, McBurnie hasn't had as much playing time as he might have got, we just expect him to switch it on whenever he gets a 20min sub cameo.

I reckon there is still, and always has been a quality player in there and he just needs a run of playing time before it clicks, he's started getting his chances to play and he's taking them, nothing to do with a potential move.

Maybe I'm being the opposite of cynical! I stand by what I say though.

 

[biggiesablade]

I would hope not I can't see the benefit of purposfully playing like shite for him. It doesn't make him an attractive buy for anyone. Its normally the other way round when a player wants a move isn't it? Play well then down tools to force a move.

 

[@thelane]

When a player has been shite for ages then in the last two games all of a sudden he puts in brilliant performances by his previous standard am I being cynical or does the attachment have something to do with it?

I think you’re being cynical to be honest….but who knows

 

[originaltrueblade]

I think you're being cynical if you don't mind me saying.

Mcburnie's performances for us have been impacted by more factors than just his ability. There are two long spells where you couldn't really blame him.

Firstly the prem season where we weren't giving him service and everyone was playing shit.

Then last season he was plagued by injury and long covid. He's not going to be able to perform with long covid.

Just to add I also think Billy Sharps form has prevented a few players getting a chance to string a few appearances together and get into their stride, McBurnie hasn't had as much playing time as he might have got, we just expect him to switch it on whenever he gets a 20min sub cameo.

I reckon there is still, and always has been a quality player in there and he just needs a run of playing time before it clicks.

Maybe I'm being the opposite of cynical! I stand by what I say though.

I sincerely hope I’m wrong and hope I’m proved wrong if he remains and his performances are like they were on Satdy after 1st September I will be the first to hold my hands up

 

[originaltrueblade]

I think you’re being cynical to be honest….but who knows

Time will tell

 

[Houston_Blade]

Hopefully it’s because he’s stopped concentrating on using vacuum cleaners to make porn videos and has actually knuckled down to play football.

 

[Bell4]

I think you're being cynical if you don't mind me saying.

Mcburnie's performances for us have been impacted by more factors than just his ability and desire. There are two long spells where you couldn't really blame him.

Firstly the prem season where we weren't giving him service and everyone was playing shit.

Then last season he was plagued by injury and long covid. He's not going to be able to perform with long covid.

Just to add I also think Billy Sharps form has prevented a few players getting a chance to string a few appearances together and get into their stride, McBurnie hasn't had as much playing time as he might have got, we just expect him to switch it on whenever he gets a 20min sub cameo.

I reckon there is still, and always has been a quality player in there and he just needs a run of playing time before it clicks, he's started getting his chances to play and he's taking them, nothing to do with a potential move.

Maybe I'm being the opposite of cynical! I stand by what I say though.

I agree

 

[Rufus Smalls]

I think you're being cynical if you don't mind me saying.

Mcburnie's performances for us have been impacted by more factors than just his ability and desire. There are two long spells where you couldn't really blame him.

Firstly the prem season where we weren't giving him service and everyone was playing shit.

Then last season he was plagued by injury and long covid. He's not going to be able to perform with long covid.

Just to add I also think Billy Sharps form has prevented a few players getting a chance to string a few appearances together and get into their stride, McBurnie hasn't had as much playing time as he might have got, we just expect him to switch it on whenever he gets a 20min sub cameo.

I reckon there is still, and always has been a quality player in there and he just needs a run of playing time before it clicks, he's started getting his chances to play and he's taking them, nothing to do with a potential move.

Maybe I'm being the opposite of cynical! I stand by what I say though.

I also think if his price tag had been £2m (not his fault at all) he wouldn’t have took as much stick from the fans. I hope he pushes on and provides us with some much needed strike power up front.

 

[Flumps]

Can't say I've ever been one of his fans. I won't say I'm his biggest critic either, if we get some cash for him then he can go for me.

That's not to take anything away from his last two appearances mind which have been positive and much better, I think I've just lost faith in him. Despite what we think here we are considered to be and should be one of the teams going for autos and at the very least we should expect playoffs again and I'm just not sure I like the idea of bringing McB on even for the last 20 minutes in a tight game if he's not in the mood to put in a good performance.

I'm 100% open and hoping to be wrong, I've no issues if he ends up coming good for us, he's obviously capable.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

Not being cynical at all, just keeping the hourly McBurnie threads going. Outstanding effort, well done

 

[Captain Obvious]

The bloke has been a joke since he got here both in output and professionalism. He’s scored a total of 7 goals and he’s in his 4th season with us, I will never understand the level of support he gets - quite frankly, he doesn’t deserve it. The guy is stealing a living as a footballer and we’ve wasted a ridiculous amount of money on him, West Brom or any other club are welcome to him as far as I’m concerned.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Not being cynical at all, just keeping the hourly McBurnie threads going. Outstanding effort, well done

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[Stretch]

McBurnie (imo) never lacked effort since he came to us, he has just struggled to take his chances. The performance we saw v Blackburn confirmed this, x 100. His off field antics have also not helped, but let's also be right in saying that a portion of our fanbase took an instant (and seemingly irreversible) dislike to him because of how he dresses.

I might also point out a slight flaw in the op's logic, that West Brom had (allegedly) already lodged an interest in McB prior to the last 2 games. So did they somehow, magically know hat he would play a blinder in those matches, or did they (more likely) already think that he was worth a punt?..... refer to my first sentence to explain why that might be the case.

 

[knowsnowt]

I don't have any issue with his fisting antics, but drunk driving is unforgivable.
He can pop the fuck off on a free to the s6 scum as far as I care.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

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Top bantz

 

[Charlieblade]

Put yourself in his place for a moment.

A young footballer, living the dream. Not the sharpest tool in the box, and his off field performance has carried more weight than his time on the pitch.
Wilder worked him hard, and insisted on the lad contributing to defensive duties.
He has had time in the PL and now he is back where he started.
Maybe he has just grown up, and maybe he has felt the benefit of PH and MCall tutoring and encouraging him.
He certainly seems to be a previously wayward lad who has had his tea leaves read to him.
Buckle down and work hard. The harder you work, the luckier you get. Last chance saloon! Perform for United on decent wages, or follow all the other young failures who have had their heads turned by big money, just for doing what they love.
The modern game requires application if you are to enjoy the fruits of a relatively short career at the top.

I don’t think the op is being cynical, just pointing out another way down the slippery slope for a bloke who now seems to suddenly realise that he is in danger of losing something we would all love to do. Playing football for silly money.

I honestly hope it works out for the lad, and for us!

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Felt like we signed him as he scored 20 goals in the championship and that's it he was okay in the premier league 1st season which is a fair level above this. He's now fit and being played by a manager who has worked with him before and he's starting to look better.

 

[mattbianco1]

When a player has been shite for ages then in the last two games all of a sudden he puts in brilliant performances by his previous standard am I being cynical or does the attachment have something to do with it?

The attachment has sod all to do with it.
In the risk of repeating myself - he had a very bad injury then covid and struggled to regain proper fitness levels following it.
That meant he never got a really consistent run of games last year so could never get going.

He has no said he's as fit as he has been and due to others being injured has an opportunity, which he's trying to take.

Edit - ignore all that. He's a donkey. Get him released now!

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Alot of his game is good tbf (Heading, touches, passing and effort) but I don't think his finishing is good enough when at his feet.

 

[metalblade]

If he went elsewhere and knocked in 20 goals it would serve some of you lot right. The treatment he has had from Sheffield United fans has been both shameful and embarrassing far worse than our other record signings (at the time) Brewster and Berge received.

 

[Blade56]

You’re probably so Bob on I’m going to call you Bob-on-origioanleble from now on. If he doesn’t go this window he’ll be back on his personal treatment table by 1st September.

That said it was nice seeing for 2 games what we thought we had bought.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

If he went elsewhere and knocked in 20 goals it would serve some of you lot right. The treatment he has had from Sheffield United fans has been both shameful and embarrassing far worse than our other record signings (at the time) Brewster and Berge received.

Serve some of us right?

What a weird comment that is. I don't abuse McBurnie personally but for the money we paid for him you'd expect more than 7 goals in 3 years. Jesus.

 

[El Volví]

When a player has been shite for ages then in the last two games all of a sudden he puts in brilliant performances by his previous standard am I being cynical or does the attachment have something to do with it?

Not cynical at all.

 

[Oohaah! Bob Bookah!]

When a player has been shite for ages then in the last two games all of a sudden he puts in brilliant performances by his previous standard am I being cynical or does the attachment have something to do with it?

Maybe he’s now fully fit and is capable of showing what he’s actually about.

Refer to Coutts for a previous example

 

[blade too long]

been unfortunate with one niggling injury after another so hasn't. played often enough to show what.weve seen in the last 2 . Fully fit he's an asset.

 

[El Volví]

Can't say I've ever been one of his fans. I won't say I'm his biggest critic either, if we get some cash for him then he can go for me.

That's not to take anything away from his last two appearances mind which have been positive and much better, I think I've just lost faith in him. Despite what we think here we are considered to be and should be one of the teams going for autos and at the very least we should expect playoffs again and I'm just not sure I like the idea of bringing McB on even for the last 20 minutes in a tight game if he's not in the mood to put in a good performance.

I'm 100% open and hoping to be wrong, I've no issues if he ends up coming good for us, he's obviously capable.

For me he still needs to show consistency and one sub appearance and however long he was on for Saturday isn't enough time to show that.
If he plays well again Friday and even better if he finally takes one of the numerous chances we're now creating, then I think he may well have finally turned a corner!

 

[Flumps]

For me he still needs to show consistency and one sub appearance and however long he was on for Saturday isn't enough time to show that.
If he plays well again Friday and even better if he finally takes one of the numerous chances we're now creating, then I think he may well have finally turned a corner!

More than happy for it to happen, I don't think we've ever had a player that I can remember that I disliked for the sake of disliking and wanted them gone but I've said often he doesn't seem to fit. If he's turned that corner and now we have a striker on our hands hungry to bag goals then that's only a positive as far as I'm concerned and he gets his chance.

 

[Badger Blade]

Its a tough one to weigh up because he's in the last year of his contract and from a pure finance perspective, based on his output (regardless of covid, beating up a teenager in Knaresborough, drink driving and a lack of goals) you'd cut your losses and take £2m from West Brom or wherever else.

The other side of it is, do you sacrifice that £2m based on the fact that now, most of those factors are water under the bridge and that he's now starting to look like he can produce something and that sacrificing that £2m could result in a much bigger payout if we went up, even if he only scored 5 or 6 goals between now and May which could be a deciding factor in the long run.

Like getting to the final chase, you might have some dope who took the lower offer but them just being there and answering one question gave you that extra 1% to get over the line.