Against the sacking?

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Agreed. But Clough got to the dizzy heights of 20 points off automatic with free reign over the transfer kitty - something Adkins didn't get anywhere near.

If promotion is the goal, and whoever the gaffer is fails, are they ever going to be given a chance to get it right? Or is this the gameplan forever now?
Its the game plan forever. Remember last year when we sacked Clough and got Adkins? It wasn't new, we've been making managers the scape goat managers for years - 9 managers in 9 years.... As i said last year, the last manager that had more than 2 seasons was a long time ago...

Adkins problem was that he made an absolute hash of the job, his signings were awful, his tactics - shocking, yes he played to win games, but he ended up getting us overrun for most of the season.

And his final act to slate the fans, its almost indefensible, but i'm guessing he wanted that last dig at the fans when he knew he was finished. McCabe's Forum pretty much saw to that.

Would i have sacked him? No, he would've had until Christmas, that was until the made his comments about the fans. He would've needed an extremely impressive summer and a title pushing start to the season to get fans on side...
 



flounce .. official :D
It is a flounce SP, I admit it.But they've brow beaten me to submission and I'm sick of one of the biggest things in my life making me feel miserable - and maybe it's time for me to do something about it rather than to moan - and the only thing i can do is to stop supporting the regime doing this to me so I'm revolting :D
 
As someone who can't film videos said on Sunday - how many teams go from 10th to Automatic Promotion the next year? I'd possibly suggest to Chris that he doesn't spend his Sundays looking at a new house to buy.
 
As someone who can't film videos said on Sunday - how many teams go from 10th to Automatic Promotion the next year? I'd possibly suggest to Chris that he doesn't spend his Sundays looking at a new house to buy.

He lives in Sheffield already, Rodders, so I don't think he'll be house hunting this June.
 
With Adkins at the helm (even if it was for 3 months up to Christmas) I believe we would have been heading for a 7th (YES SEVENTH) season in the third division - the ethos would not have changed and he would have had Hammond at the heart of hos plan - thinking that he will have gained his fitness from a 30 game stint (fuck - did he play that many) to get his circulation going.

As it is - there is a new broom, a change for the better, someone with up and coming success as opposed to hitherto successes.

Anyone that can make McEveley their captain when we were crying out for a new CB or two and a strong midfield pairing set their stall out early doors and lost any credibility from the off.

(McEv then went on the play reasonably well, blah, blah, blah, shuffle of crisp packets, etc - yeah, OK but he was pants and aint getting any quicker or commanding and is not the right captain for a promotion push - anyone could have worked that one out).
 
We all got swept along with Adkins spin when he was appointed. His track record probably didn't tell the whole story. I think he wasn't the right man for the job. As blades we need a straight talking passionate manager, as Mr Wilder appears to be. Mr Adkins may move on and be a success else ware but tbh I couldn't see him doing it with us. I totally agree with the board on this one get rid now rather than later when say we were mid table at Christmas and expect the new manager to perform a miracle.

What is a shame is we keep making the same mistakes and not learning. We change managers, it gets worse so we change again. One person keeps his job time after time yet we keep going backwards. Does anyone truly believe all the previous managers have been shit, or is it something else?
 
What is a shame is we keep making the same mistakes and not learning. We change managers, it gets worse so we change again. One person keeps his job time after time yet we keep going backwards. Does anyone truly believe all the previous managers have been shit, or is it something else?

A little from column "a" and quite a lot from column "b".
 
Mixed emotions from me too.

Adkins was strict with things, he was stubborn with things and he was also naive with things. The season wasn't a successful one, there's no hiding from that. But, we knew this mid-season. It was a "filler season" for me, one where he was clearing out the deadwood which he has done a great deal of you would think - If all the outgoing loanees are sold/released then he has started the foundations for the rebuilding exercise. Higdon, JCR, Freeman, Scougall, McNulty, Harris etc. are all average players who he has shipped out. Phipps said it would take 3 windows to rectify, the next window is the 3rd one so why get shut now?

Wilder again is a bit of an unknown. He's done OK at Oxford (as Clough did "OK" at Derby). He's done fantastically well at Northampton (as Adkins did at Scunny and Soton) but again he is unproven at our level.

The problem I see is that none of the manager's have been given a proper chance to build their own team. Neil Warnock (our most successful manager in recent times) took 7 years to get us promoted, some want a statue of him in the car park. In his time as manager of SUFC we finished 16th, 10th, 13th, 3rd, 8th, 8th, 2nd. My fear is that nobody will be given a chance to rebuild accordingly.

Whoever comes in won't be given 18 months never mind 7 years to build a legacy.
 
Apart from Nigel Clough we haven't made a change for the better in 9 years. And we sacked him, what makes you think this is going to be for the better?

I can feel it in me gnads, Bladesway.

Cop a feel and you'll see :o
 
I can feel it in me gnads, Bladesway.

Cop a feel and you'll see :eek:

It's OK I'll take your word for it. I don't agree it's a change for anything other than changes sake. Wilder if he comes in will be in a better position we hope. The good is that all the shit that we had that wasn't working will be out of contract, the bad is he will need substantial luck, contacts and/or budget. It really is a gamble. To be honest I worry about anyone coming into what is now a basket case club and doing anything positive with it. Whoever plays knows they can behave as badly as they want and so long as they have more than a season on their contract they will outlast the manager.
 



I'm one of them. The fanbase has been quite divided over NA and I suppose it's still the same now he's been sacked.

NA hasn't done himself many favours throughout the season but you can't get away from that it was always going to be difficult, left with all of Clough's bang average players and given hardly any funds in the transfer windows in just his first season in charge.

I think we should have at least gave him upto the first 3 months of next season or until Xmas to see where we were.

I'm going to give Chris Wilder my full support though, at least he knows about the lower leagues and you would think he'll have some young hungry players in mind. He'll also know what this club is all about and what is expected, he should be familiar at handling the pressure and expectation here however it is his first managerial role at a club of this size.


I will start by saying I was for Adkins appointment when we first signed him, however everything he has done and said has made me lose all faith in him,

1, signed Hammond, then resigned him in January despite knowing how poor he had been
2, told fans that they didn’t know what they were seeing
3, told fans we had always been negative since day one
4, sold/released/loaned out all cover for the Right and Left Back positions meaning when we lost Brayford we HAD to play 3-5-2 as we didn’t have any full backs
5, sold/released/loaned out players who were far better than we had remaining
6, spent money on resigning Hammond (despite desperately needing defenders..STILL from what he was on, we could have signed two decent league 1 defender)
7, Defended Hammond stating he will never openly criticise players… then criticises Adams, Reed and Whiteman for mistakes
8, says he wants a settled team, proceeds to change it more or less every week dropping players who played well for returning “old boys”
9, came out with baffling statements which made it seem he wasn’t watching the game (started well… where we conceded in the first 5 mins) and then constantly referred back to the opening comment when pressed about the rest of the performance
10, stated there had to be a pathway for the youth, (but he is the one picking the side, whether you have 40 players or 16 players… you pick the best.. if that means the youth player dislodging a more established player… so be it.. (look at Long for the ability to do so)
11, stating to the world that the team wasn’t good enough and many wouldn’t be here next season then expecting those players to play their best.
12, failing to see Collins playing was a mistake until it was too late.
13, failing to take players such as Sharp off (despite being dead on their feet)
14, always playing when fit the likes of Sharp/Hammond even when form dictated they should be dropped.
15, telling us all we were “going all out attack from the start” in one game and starting in the exact same manner… pass sideways and forwards and when we did go forward the snails were getting in the box before us.
16, concentrate on getting on 1 player… and failing to have a back-up plan when that player doesn’t materialise
I could go on… but let’s just think of the things that we criticised Clough for… and see how many fit with Adkins…
At least with clough there was seemingly a plan you could see it, it may not have worked… but at least you could see what he was trying.. (1 up front with 2 wingers joining them in the attack) with Adkins I cannot see what the man was trying to do… except bore us to death…. The fact only 1500 (at best) stayed to “clap” them for the end of the season shows it’s not just me (especially as many wasn’t clapping…)
Also If you actually look at the Clough signings (criticised for the number he brought in) he actually NEEDED to bring in many of them as those outgoing were out of contract thus there wasn’t a player for that position (in Cloughs first season we didn’t have a Full Back, and only had Porter (resigning so included in the figures)
The number of players signed by the new manager will be inflated considering how many are out of contract, (I think we currently have 1 CB at the Club in McGahay, 1 Injured RB in Brayford, 1 fit RB Freeman (returning I think) both LB are out of contract (Harris and McEveley) so before he even starts we need 5 players there… 3 CB and 2 LB) either that or Wingbacks and more CB’s
 
As someone who can't film videos said on Sunday - how many teams go from 10th to Automatic Promotion the next year? I'd possibly suggest to Chris that he doesn't spend his Sundays looking at a new house to buy.
I wouldn't give a mortgage to a Blades manager. Steelworkers have more job security.
 
Embarrassed about yet another sacking but this season has been a shambles and I fully support a change because just another few months of the same would have seen a new squad assembled and all the expenditure that goes with it. Would I trust Adkins to do the job? No.

Woody to be honest . Take away all the comments , rumours and innuendo , your post just really sums it up. Think we are all embarrassed and worn out with this seasons saga . We all expected better with a good management appointment but could we trust the fella - sorry to say like you No.

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It's OK I'll take your word for it. I don't agree it's a change for anything other than changes sake. Wilder if he comes in will be in a better position we hope. The good is that all the shit that we had that wasn't working will be out of contract, the bad is he will need substantial luck, contacts and/or budget. It really is a gamble. To be honest I worry about anyone coming into what is now a basket case club and doing anything positive with it. Whoever plays knows they can behave as badly as they want and so long as they have more than a season on their contract they will outlast the manager.

Absolutely spot on mate. I'm not pissed off about sacking Adkins (as I said earlier), I'm pissed off that the same people keep making the same mistakes in running the club but aren't accountable for it and learn nothing from their mistakes. I think anyone who takes on the job working for these idiots, and thinks they can be successful is a basket case himself / herself. Actually, thinking about it, a female manager is about the only "type" we've not tried. What's Hope Powell doing these days? :confused:
 
Absolutely spot on mate. I'm not pissed off about sacking Adkins (as I said earlier), I'm pissed off that the same people keep making the same mistakes in running the club but aren't accountable for it and learn nothing from their mistakes. I think anyone who takes on the job working for these idiots, and thinks they can be successful is a basket case himself / herself. Actually, thinking about it, a female manager is about the only "type" we've not tried. What's Hope Powell doing these days? :confused:

Poor record there's no doubt but "not accountable" - their bank balances will belie that I suggest.

Nobody has more to gain from success than the owners.
 
I don't understand why so many views are skewed to
It's the boards fault
Or
It's the managers fault

It is possible that both have culpability for our current predicament. And on my view they have.
 
Delighted Adkins is gone, personally. And really chuffed that McCabe/Prince had the gonads to give Adkins the heave-ho. Would have been very easy to hide behind the "we're a sacking club" nonsense that is lazily chucked our way (usually from journalists who presumably reckon we should just meekly accept our Third Division fate).

You've got to earn the right to be given a bit of leeway. Adkins just didn't earn it. In fact, the prospect of him continuing to take us backwards & deeper into the mire was a very real one had he been allowed to stay.
 
Poor record there's no doubt but "not accountable" - their bank balances will belie that I suggest.

Nobody has more to gain from success than the owners.

Not every type of accountable is about £'s, unless you are a banker/accountant of course. McCabe keeps making the same mistakes but ultimately he won't be on his uppers because of it. You can guarantee that any money McCabe "loses" is ring fenced against companies and he will still maintain his life of luxury. Isn't that right Kev?
 
What you really really want?
I'll tell you what you want.
What you really really want.
Id like a manager who I've got confidence in for a start and I think Mr Wilder might be that man. He's successful now not 4 seasons ago. He's not out of work and wanted by other clubs. How many clubs will be queuing up for Mr Adkins ?
 
Delighted Adkins is gone, personally. And really chuffed that McCabe/Prince had the gonads to give Adkins the heave-ho. Would have been very easy to hide behind the "we're a sacking club" nonsense that is lazily chucked our way (usually from journalists who presumably reckon we should just meekly accept our Third Division fate).

You've got to earn the right to be given a bit of leeway. Adkins just didn't earn it. In fact, the prospect of him continuing to take us backwards & deeper into the mire was a very real one had he been allowed to stay.

"We're a sacking club" nonsense?

What else would we call the last ten years?
 



What is a shame is we keep making the same mistakes and not learning. We change managers, it gets worse so we change again. One person keeps his job time after time yet we keep going backwards. Does anyone truly believe all the previous managers have been shit, or is it something else?
I for one minute do not think we should have sacked Adkins. The difference with the Wilder appointment though is you have an experienced manager who is "on the way up". All the previous appointments have been people who have been sacked from previous higher placed jobs or in two cases no experience whatsoever.
 

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