Against the sacking?

[Danny_Blade]

I'm one of them. The fanbase has been quite divided over NA and I suppose it's still the same now he's been sacked.

NA hasn't done himself many favours throughout the season but you can't get away from that it was always going to be difficult, left with all of Clough's bang average players and given hardly any funds in the transfer windows in just his first season in charge.

I think we should have at least gave him upto the first 3 months of next season or until Xmas to see where we were.

I'm going to give Chris Wilder my full support though, at least he knows about the lower leagues and you would think he'll have some young hungry players in mind. He'll also know what this club is all about and what is expected, he should be familiar at handling the pressure and expectation here however it is his first managerial role at a club of this size.

 

[Slim Man]

Mixed feelings.
Didn't want Adkins to go and I just feel we're putting ourselves back at square one. Don't trust the club at all.

Wilder has always needed a bit of time to mould his squad, he won't get that here. (Bit of time ala 2 years, not Clough's 10 at Burton!)

 

[Sean Thornton]

Changed my mind most days about him.
Makes you wonder if there was some sort of clause in his contract and that's what led to his comments on Sunday. Then again, wonder if he dug in over Hammond, in which case the Club did right to get rid.

 

[Ecco1889]

Think he had to go after Sunday tbh,the embarrassing walk of shame in front of a handful of fans tells its own story...

 

[Jonboy60]

I'm one of them. The fanbase has been quite divided over NA and I suppose it's still the same now he's been sacked.

NA hasn't done himself many favours throughout the season but you can't get away from that it was always going to be difficult, left with all of Clough's bang average players and given hardly any funds in the transfer windows in just his first season in charge.

I think we should have at least gave him upto the first 3 months of next season or until Xmas to see where we were.

I'm going to give Chris Wilder my full support though, at least he knows about the lower leagues and you would think he'll have some young hungry players in mind. He'll also know what this club is all about and what is expected, he should be familiar at handling the pressure and expectation here however it is his first managerial role at a club of this size.

Don't know much about Northampton players, any young, up and coming players. Normally a new manager brings a few players with him.

 

[Jonboy60]

Think he had to go after Sunday tbh,the embarrassing walk of shame in front of a handful of fans tells its own story...

He probably already knew he was on his way, hence the little dig at the supporters.

 

[Small Mendonca]

He's lucky he wasn't sacked on this night.

 

[TJB.]

Don't know much about Northampton players, any young, up and coming players. Normally a new manager brings a few players with him.

Top scorer for last season is 33.

Second top scorer is John-Joe O'Toole.

 

[alcoblade]

Tick. Joke club.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Embarrassed about yet another sacking but this season has been a shambles and I fully support a change because just another few months of the same would have seen a new squad assembled and all the expenditure that goes with it. Would I trust Adkins to do the job? No.

 

[grafikhaus]

NA hasn't done himself many favours throughout the season but you can't get away from that it was always going to be difficult, left with all of Clough's bang average players and given hardly any funds in the transfer windows in just his first season in charge.

That applies to every new manager. The previous guy was probably sacked for being crap or - at best - left to better himself in which case his 'way of doing things' will need untangling. NA had enough time but wasted it with his 'clean sheet', failure to see what was needed/who needed shipping out, garbage transfers, non-existent tactics, 'The Office' Tribute act etc. etc. Out of all the recent managers we've had, nearly all had something which made you think it might, just might work. With Adkins? Absolutely nothing.

Rather than give him another 3 months, Adkins should have been sacked in January when it was obvious to most of us that this team wouldn't get promotion. Like Newcastle, we didn't get rid soon enough.

(Unless, like Hammond, we didn't see the good work Adkins was doing...)

 

[super_pig]

I'm one of them. The fanbase has been quite divided over NA and I suppose it's still the same now he's been sacked.

NA hasn't done himself many favours throughout the season but you can't get away from that it was always going to be difficult, left with all of Clough's bang average players and given hardly any funds in the transfer windows in just his first season in charge.

I think we should have at least gave him upto the first 3 months of next season or until Xmas to see where we were.

I'm going to give Chris Wilder my full support though, at least he knows about the lower leagues and you would think he'll have some young hungry players in mind. He'll also know what this club is all about and what is expected, he should be familiar at handling the pressure and expectation here however it is his first managerial role at a club of this size.

answered your own question ..first line. "the fanbase is divided" .. end.
cloughs bang average players reached the playoffs last year so in that respect we have gone backwards. he has made a number of major mistakes this year that has alienated the fans/board
1. making mceveley captain
2. seemed to regard demolition at gillingham as nothing
3. the hammond obsession
4. constant positive talk made him sound deluded (I seem the Everton fans are thinking the same)
5. slagged the fans. .yeah we're a fickle bunch alright.. but the Man utd fans would be fickle after 6 years in league one

 

[Trickymicky]

He's lucky he wasn't sacked on this night.

Hey hold on. There's is no shame in losing to the mighty Shrewsbury who went on to finish the season in the heights of................
hold on a minute,
shit,
ignore me

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I'm one of them. The fanbase has been quite divided over NA and I suppose it's still the same now he's been sacked.

NA hasn't done himself many favours throughout the season but you can't get away from that it was always going to be difficult, left with all of Clough's bang average players and given hardly any funds in the transfer windows in just his first season in charge.

I think we should have at least gave him upto the first 3 months of next season or until Xmas to see where we were.

I'm going to give Chris Wilder my full support though, at least he knows about the lower leagues and you would think he'll have some young hungry players in mind. He'll also know what this club is all about and what is expected, he should be familiar at handling the pressure and expectation here however it is his first managerial role at a club of this size.

Clough guided a team of "bang average players" to 5th. Adkins then took that team minus a decent winger, plus a decent striker to 11th.

Debate over.

 

[TJB.]

Nigel Adkins wasn't perfect by far, but I think far too much of the blame for his season has been laid at his feet by a board who let his predecessor sign a shitload of bang average players and wouldn't back him in January. Yes, Hammond & Woolford were shit signings (Sammon supposedly all but agreed before NA's arrival), but I don't for a second think those signings would have been first choice if the purse strings weren't tightly closed. Hammond had served him well in the past; how was he to know that his legs had gone if he wasn't getting near Leicester's first team? Even LCFC fans thought he was a cracking signing.

Nigel and his team will have had plans in place for next season. They'll have known what we needed, who they were going to go for, a plan for next season etc. etc. That's down the shitter now, and we'll have yet another guy, with different ideas, a different style, a different way of doing things. Been said by NTFC fans that he needs time to build his team and I have absolutely no confidence that this board will allow him to do that.

I'm not vehemently pro-Nigel, but I'm definitely anti-sacking. I don't see how appointing Wilder puts us in better stead for a promotion push next season, which has already been stated as our top priority. I don't see chopping and changing until we get it right as a viable way to run a football club. In fact, I think it's suicidal.

Che Adams has been here 18 months and he's on his third gaffer. It's just ludicrous.

 

[Jesus_was_a_Blade]

Not going to lie, personally I would have given him funds and until Christmas and then assessed from there. That been said, I think Wilder is a decent choice, although the same could have been said for Adkins once upon a time.

The only problem for me is that whoever we have/get in, the players simply don't seem good enough for automatic promotion. We could have the love child of Mourinho and Guardiola in charge, but with this current squad I still doubt we'd go up

UTB

 

[TJB.]

Clough guided a team of "bang average players" to 5th. Adkins then took that team minus a decent winger, plus a decent striker to 11th.

Debate over.

Can we please dispel this fallacy that finishing 5th under Clough was a great achievement?

20 points off our target of automatic promotion. 20. 8 points off the side who knocked 7 past us over two legs in yet another play-off fuck up.

 

[sheffielder]

Clough guided a team of "bang average players" to 5th. Adkins then took that team minus a decent winger, plus a decent striker to 11th.

Debate over.

It was a bang average side built by clough...

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

It was a bang average side built by clough...

Still got it into the playoffs and to two cup semi finals though. If they were that bad then Clough must have at least been a tactical genius then.

Adkins took his team, got knocked out of both cups early and moved it down six places in the league. There is no argument for keeping him. None whatsoever.

 

[SwissBlade]

Can we please dispel this fallacy that finishing 5th under Clough was a great achievement?

20 points off our target of automatic promotion. 20. 8 points off the side who knocked 7 past us over two legs in yet another play-off fuck up.

Better than 11th though....

 

[TJB.]

Better than 11th though....

Agreed. But Clough got to the dizzy heights of 20 points off automatic with free reign over the transfer kitty - something Adkins didn't get anywhere near.

If promotion is the goal, and whoever the gaffer is fails, are they ever going to be given a chance to get it right? Or is this the gameplan forever now?

 

[him behind you]

I'm completely and utterly pissed off by the sacking and with the club as a whole. Not that I think Adkins has done well but simply because:
a) We need stability and to allow a manager time to build his own team as we did with Warnock & Bassett.
b) I don't trust the board to make the appointment. By their own acts they've got the last 9 wrong (sacked them all).
c) The board have put us back to square 1 (the position we've been in for most of the poor sods who've been given the job recently except BR and NC possibly) in that we'll have another new manager with no money because we've probably pissed it away on compensation to the outgoing manager and the club of the incoming manager.

This is the first time in my 49 years of supporting United (actually watching them) that I'm feeling that I no longer want to give them my money. I've made no secret of my feelings about the majority of the current playing squad and their attitudes, and the fact that despite missing only 2 matches up to the end of Feb, I've not been to a mach since. I'm now in the position that I'm delighted that I've not renewed my season ticket and won't be unless the manager appointed is one which peaks my interest (certainly not a Warnock / Evans type and I reserve judgement on the likes of Wilder who's not actually achieved as much as Adams had but is a Blade just like he is) and, even then, is supported by the board and allowed to build a team for the coming season.

If they have, as I fear, pissed away the money and aren't able to back the new manager - they can fuck right off because I've had enough of them. Maybe that makes me no longer a blade but I don't give a toss.

 

[him behind you]

Agreed. But Clough got to the dizzy heights of 20 points off automatic with free reign over the transfer kitty - something Adkins didn't get anywhere near.

If promotion is the goal, and whoever the gaffer is fails, are they ever going to be given a chance to get it right? Or is this the gameplan forever now?

I fear that this is now our business plan. Spend no money on players but expect a manager to get the club promoted. If he doesn't, sack and recruit, spending next years transfer kitty on compo therefore spending no money on players but expect a manager to get the club promoted. REPEAT.

 

[Jonboy60]

Top scorer for last season is 33.

Second top scorer is John-Joe O'Toole.

Oh dear god.

 

[TJB.]

If they have, as I fear, pissed away the money and aren't able to back the new manager - they can fuck right off because I've had enough of them.

This. A thousand times. I can't personally say I've had enough (partially because I've already renewed), but I can't support the way the club is being run.

A simple yes or no answer from Kevin McCabe to the following question:

'Has the transfer budget for next season now been reduced because we're having to pay compensation to Adkins and his staff?'

 

[PeteBlade]

Personally think it's pretty stupid to sack our 8th manager in 8 years with what he's had to cope with.

Wilder will come in to a position of strength with all of the deadwood on their way out and assuming he'll be able to bolster the squad proper unlike the non existent backing Adkins received.

Wilder would have equally struggled had he come in last year.

That being said I fully back Wilder, won't be on his back and think this should be the one for the long term.

 

[Bugboyblade]

We all got swept along with Adkins spin when he was appointed. His track record probably didn't tell the whole story. I think he wasn't the right man for the job. As blades we need a straight talking passionate manager, as Mr Wilder appears to be. Mr Adkins may move on and be a success else ware but tbh I couldn't see him doing it with us. I totally agree with the board on this one get rid now rather than later when say we were mid table at Christmas and expect the new manager to perform a miracle.

 

[PeteBlade]

. As blades we need a straight talking passionate manager.

No, what you're after is a huge cliche.

 

[super_pig]

I'm completely and utterly pissed off by the sacking and with the club as a whole. Not that I think Adkins has done well but simply because:
a) We need stability and to allow a manager time to build his own team as we did with Warnock & Bassett.
b) I don't trust the board to make the appointment. By their own acts they've got the last 9 wrong (sacked them all).
c) The board have put us back to square 1 (the position we've been in for most of the poor sods who've been given the job recently except BR and NC possibly) in that we'll have another new manager with no money because we've probably pissed it away on compensation to the outgoing manager and the club of the incoming manager.

This is the first time in my 49 years of supporting United (actually watching them) that I'm feeling that I no longer want to give them my money. I've made no secret of my feelings about the majority of the current playing squad and their attitudes, and the fact that despite missing only 2 matches up to the end of Feb, I've not been to a mach since. I'm now in the position that I'm delighted that I've not renewed my season ticket and won't be unless the manager appointed is one which peaks my interest (certainly not a Warnock / Evans type and I reserve judgement on the likes of Wilder who's not actually achieved as much as Adams had but is a Blade just like he is) and, even then, is supported by the board and allowed to build a team for the coming season.

If they have, as I fear, pissed away the money and aren't able to back the new manager - they can fuck right off because I've had enough of them. Maybe that makes me no longer a blade but I don't give a toss.

flounce .. official

 

[Tyler Durden]