Adkins Tweet.

[I should coco]

Grow up just because I have different views from you? Says it all really, maybe you should take a leaf out of your own book

No, not because your view is different to mine but beacuse after 27.359 managers in 10 years, I thought you might have learned a lesson.

its been 7 months of utter boring shite football with him just talking crap after each game. 7 months is more than enough for me pal

So do you really want someone else to come and try to build another team in less than 6 months? Presumably if we haven't got promoted, qualified for the Champions league and won the World Cup by then, you will want him out too?

At some point we have to back some fucker.

NA may not be the best manager in the world but his track record says he is worth sticking with for a bit more than half a season.

ISC

 

[Ted Danson]

No, not because your view is different to mine but beacuse after 27.359 managers in 10 years, I thought you might have learned a lesson.



So do you really want someone else to come and try to build another team in less than 6 months? Presumably if we haven't got promoted, qualified for the Champions league and won the World Cup by then, you will want him out too?

At some point we have to back some fucker.

NA may not be the best manager in the world but his track record says he is worth sticking with for a bit more than half a season.

ISC

Ive backed just about all of the last managers, if you can be arsed youll find threads on here with me defending Blackwell, Wilson, Warnock, Clough, infact all of them except Robson, Weir and now Adkins as its been plainly obvious to me theyre no good and not a long term solution. I agree we have to back some fucker but not this one, we should have stuck with Clough. Now we need to get a new one who can get the best out of his players, not someone relying on past glories with other teams and positive spin.

 

[BushBlade]

Disagree, the way managers work they take the job with promises and the board don't deliver. Hang on in there, if results go against you, keep quiet get sacked, get paid everything owing to the end of your contract. Get another job confidentially blaming the board.

Weir walked with a rumoured £2m for a few months work and walked into a lucrative job. Nice.

If Weir walked away with £2m why did we struggle to attract a manager when we were offering such a big salary? Even over three years that's a lot for a L1 manager.

I've heard a number of managers being interviewed who've said that most contracts have a clause that if you're sacked, you're only entitled to a set amount of money; usually six months. This is pretty standard in the lower leagues.

If the person responsible for drawing up the contract didn't put such a clause in there he's both negligent and incompetent.

And no club in their right mind would pay off a contract in full, in one lump sum. You pay in instalments and as soon as the sacked manager gets a new job you renegotiate the payments based on the fact that his loss has reduced.

 

[BushBlade]

Ive backed just about all of the last managers, if you can be arsed youll find threads on here with me defending Blackwell, Wilson, Warnock, Clough, infact all of them except Robson, Weir and now Adkins as its been plainly obvious to me theyre no good and not a long term solution. I agree we have to back some fucker but not this one, we should have stuck with Clough. Now we need to get a new one who can get the best out of his players, not someone relying on past glories with other teams and positive spin.

On that basis it's clear you can't tell the difference between a good one and a bad one.

 

[Ted Danson]

On that basis it's clear you can't tell the difference between a good one and a bad one.

No, it shows that I support them and the last resort for me is sacking them if theyre showing any kind of promise. Adkins is not

 

[PeteBlade]

I think it would be great if he walked, then we wouldnt lose any money having to sack him, we'd then have a new manager who can hopefully motivate the players and hed have a chance to build a fresh squad in the summer. Adkins hasnt shown any good managerial skills that Ive seen so why not roll the dice again. People keep banging on like hes the only option but he isnt

Have you completely ignored the several threads on the wider issues at the club?

 

[BushBlade]

No, it shows that I support them and the last resort for me is sacking them if theyre showing any kind of promise. Adkins is not

Have you completely ignored the several threads on the wider issues at the club?

why should he? He's only taking the same approach as our board, in fairness.

 

[Ted Danson]

Have you completely ignored the several threads on the wider issues at the club?

No, the whole club is fucking rotten to the core I get that.

Also, if we are skint and cant buy any new players then thats another argument for why adkins walking would be good as hes shown that he cant work with these players and obviously needs players we cant afford so we should be looking at a manger who can motivate players / work with players from lower leagues rather than prem cast offs

 

[finlaytheblade]

Adkins would be perfectly justified in walking. If I were him I'd be asking for all sorts of assurances.

Surely he wouldn't have taken the job
without certain assurances, unless he's a fool and I don't beleave he is

 

[BushBlade]

No, the whole club is fucking rotten to the core I get that.

Also, if we are skint and cant buy any new players then thats another argument for why adkins walking would be good as hes shown that he cant work with these players and obviously needs players we cant afford so we should be looking at a manger who can motivate players / work with players from lower leagues rather than prem cast offs

I think he's shown at Scunny he can work within a tight budget.

I do agree with your other point though. It's clear he's struggled with a lot of our players and if we're not prepared to fund bringing in new players there's an argument that we should be looking at a more 'Clough-like' manager. It may be too late now but it's something we should have considered more when we recruited him.

Clough seemed to be an old style kick, bollock and bite micro-manager and he assembled a squad that would respond to that.

Adkins seems to be more about players taking responsibility for themselves and I'm not convinced some of our lot are capable of that.

 

[Kenilworth]

I'm reading between the lines here, but here is what I think has happened:
- First off, I think everyone is keen to get where we need to get to. For all his failings I do believe that McCabe wants this club in the PL. Agree with that or not, that is my belief.
- I think the board underestimated the task that was required following the sacking of Clough in the summer. They brought Nigel in, i believe with the sole aim of getting up this year.
- Nigel being as good as I believe he is and as honest as I believe he is, has assessed the squad and gone back to the board and said, look gents, we've got 40-odd professionals here! This is huge for a club in League 1.
- The board have sat up and thought.....holy christ! No wonder the budgets are stretched, we need to have a re-think here.
- Adkins, having been promised a certain remit in the interview to get us up, has had to agree to trimming the squad right down, with limited incomings.
- On the proviso that as long as we do not have a disastrous season, he will be given the summer to make wholesale changes, no matter the division.

Thats just how I see it. I think the board knew that Clough had been a bit too active in the transfer market, but not to the extent identified later. Adkins is purely another victim of the Clough regime, and as much as the board are getting the flack for a poor transfer window, i think the tack being taken is correct in setting up the summer for Adkins to truly put his mark on our club, I just hope he truly gets the opportunity.

UTB

I love the thought that Adkins "assessed the squad and gone back to the board and said, look gents, we've got 40-odd professionals here! This is huge for a club in League 1"
As though the sole result of his assessment was that he counted them all.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ........, 7, 8, 9, ... zzzzzzz, 10, 11, zzzzzz Oh shit!

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ........, 7, 8, 9, ... , 10, 11, .. Baxter, 14, Higdon, 19, 20, 21 ......... 40 - Right. Where's that Board Room - there's too many players here, don't they realise the implications?

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Blackwell, Wilson, Warnock, Clough, infact all of them except Robson, Weir and now Adkins as its been plainly obvious to me theyre no good and not a long term solution.

The length of your list might suggest there might be a problem elsewhere.

 

[SotonBlade]

Soz

I love the thought that Adkins "assessed the squad and gone back to the board and said, look gents, we've got 40-odd professionals here! This is huge for a club in League 1"
As though the sole result of his assessment was that he counted them all.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ........, 7, 8, 9, ... zzzzzzz, 10, 11, zzzzzz Oh shit!

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ........, 7, 8, 9, ... , 10, 11, .. Baxter, 14, Higdon, 19, 20, 21 ......... 40 - Right. Where's that Board Room - there's too many players here, don't they realise the implications?

 

[judge]

I like it how people read it and then think its code for something else

Its fucking twitter not bridge of spies

 

[Grecian2000]

I wonder if WHF has him on "ignore" after that outburst?

Only Phippsy left now I'd have thought.

 

[Darthblade]

What, turn into someone who looks like my gran?

Oh, I see what you mean. Fuck off up the road for loads more money then pretend he'd been let down by our board.

Then after getting sacked and taken on by Wigan, he could fuck off again for more money. Then when he finds Palarse isn't as wonderful as he thought he could try to fuck off to Brum but Simon Jordan wouldn't let him.

He is a wanker and a serial quitter.

I really can't believe the low level of vitriol he gets when he comes to BDTBL. He should be chased out of town with sticks.

Pathetic plastic Geordie Manyoo tosspot wanker.

ISC (There, that's better)

All that may be true ..... but he was also another one in a long line of Blades managers who were lied to and misled by our own Board(s).

Deja vu ......

UTB & FTP

 

[Darthblade]

I'm reading between the lines here, but here is what I think has happened:
- First off, I think everyone is keen to get where we need to get to. For all his failings I do believe that McCabe wants this club in the PL. Agree with that or not, that is my belief.
- I think the board underestimated the task that was required following the sacking of Clough in the summer. They brought Nigel in, i believe with the sole aim of getting up this year.
- Nigel being as good as I believe he is and as honest as I believe he is, has assessed the squad and gone back to the board and said, look gents, we've got 40-odd professionals here! This is huge for a club in League 1.
- The board have sat up and thought.....holy christ! No wonder the budgets are stretched, we need to have a re-think here.
- Adkins, having been promised a certain remit in the interview to get us up, has had to agree to trimming the squad right down, with limited incomings.
- On the proviso that as long as we do not have a disastrous season, he will be given the summer to make wholesale changes, no matter the division.

Thats just how I see it. I think the board knew that Clough had been a bit too active in the transfer market, but not to the extent identified later. Adkins is purely another victim of the Clough regime, and as much as the board are getting the flack for a poor transfer window, i think the tack being taken is correct in setting up the summer for Adkins to truly put his mark on our club, I just hope he truly gets the opportunity.

UTB

Our Board(s) always underestimate the task ...... because they are usually comprised of individuals who know three parts of f**k all about football ........

How else do you explain McCabe bringing Robson in or many of the other inexplicable anomalies that have befallen us over the years ?

UTB & FTP

 

[robbiez666]

This is the first thing he's ever said which isn't full of spin and bullshit.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I like it how people read it and then think its code for something else

Its fucking twitter not bridge of spies

Perhaps that's the bridge we have to cross then we are on our way?

 

[Kenilworth]

Soz

Well you made me smile with that vision, anyway Sotty, so - thanks