Adkins - The final verdict

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Nigel Adkins was the best possible appointment we could have made this time last year, but his reign was disappointing, in fact the perfect word I can use to describe his reign is underwhelming,

I gave him the season before I started throwing my toys out of the pram, and I would have backed him to have the first few games of next season to see what he could have done next season, as I think he needed more time to display what he could do, but I also had began to have doubts that his summer recruitment might not be what we wanted and there can be no doubts that sacking him is the right thing to do.

He came in as a manager with a superb track record of getting out of this division, with an excellent reputation as a motivator, and finding players on a budget, I know a couple of Scunthorpe fans and they said he was an absolutely outstanding manager, Southampton fans also rated him highly, but he had a spell that had also been disappointing at Reading and that was the precursor to his spell at the Lane.

His mistakes had been numerous, right from the start. The first was Connor Sammon, my understanding that he was already a done deal under Clough and Brannigan, but he didn't even seem to veto this deal and unfortunately we was lumbered with an awful player all season, he also failed to act quickly to jettison some of the deadwood from the squad last summer when he had the chance, and decided to give them all a fresh start, but by doing that he was effectively starting with the same set of failures, and putting more pressure on himself by effectively gambling on his own managerial skills to get the best out of an average set of players without strengthening sufficiently to give himself a better chance of being a success.

Tactically he looked poor, he didn't seem to be particularly quick to change this tactically when things weren't working, his substitutions were often baffling, and he often seems reluctant to change formations and tactics during a match especially when things hadn't been working well.

When he did change his tactics they was often after a spell of poor form, and th season can be broken down in to thirds, we started the season playing an attacking passing game that actually wasn't that bad to watch when we playing well, but when results dipped he turned to direct, long ball tactics that was awful to watch but did grind out a few results, before ditching that and going for a 3-5-2 formation that was also clearly not the solution.

His forays in to the transfer market were sporadic and hit and miss. The only signing he made that could be classed as an unqualified success was the signing of Billy Sharp, he also signed the awful Martyn Woolford, Sammon was more or less here before Adkins came, Edgar was a direct response to the Gillingham hiding, and he spent too long trying to bring in Dan Burn and Dean Hammond, the latter coming in and being a poor signing, for several reasons, and near the end of the season he brought in Alex Baptiste who was a vast improvement on the dire Neill Collins who was jettisoned 30 games too late in to the season.

With the rest of players we still saw the rest of the same old failures, failing again. Only a couple of players improved last season and they was George Long and Che Adams, the rest either stayed resolutely mediocre or regressed badly. His team selections seemed to be random at the start of season, and that set the theme with players coming for a few games before being dropped, often never to be seem again, whilst others would get tried and tried again despite never improving or adding anything to the side, then there was the favourites who seemingly became bombproof despite turning in poor performance with an alarming frequency. The core of the players who ended the season had been the same set of players who has been paramount in the last couple of seasons of League One mediocrity, he can't solely place the blame on the players for his sacking, but towards the end of the season you certainly didn't a sense that they was fighting for the manager, but then again you haven't seen them fighting for much this season.

All season the results had been poor, I struggle to think of more than 1 or 2 games where I came out of the match thinking that we had actually played well, whilst we picked up most of our points in games where we really should have expected to win, whilst the poor results and performances are the ones that lingered on in the mind the longest. I don't want to be disrespectful here but there defeats against Gillingham, Bury, Colchester, Shrewsbury, Bury, Rochdale and finishing the season meekly surrendering to his old side Scunthorpe, were for frequent and were totally unacceptable for Adkins job to remain tenable. His pre and post match media work became more and more deluded to the point where people actually wondered what he was taking, a lot of was guff about showing endeavour, grit and determination mixed with sound bites such as 'pressure makes diamonds' and often you wondered if he had actually lost the plot.

The final straw came last Sunday, that was an absolutely unacceptable performance and defeat, and his thinly veiled attack on the supporters was the final straw. Thought the season there was a real sense that the United fans has given him time, and showed a lot more patience than a lot of other managers has been shown. We had continued to turn out in numbers, often with blind faith, and that level of support this season has been unprecedented and totally undeserved by the playing staff and management team, and the supporters had only really turned on that last day against Scunthorpe where the team rightfully got treated with a tumultuous mix of anger, apathy, and resentment as the frustrations of another bitterly disappointing season came to the fore, and we couldn't hide our disgust any more. Adkins aced all this by seeing through an completely pointless 'lap of appreciation' when they really should have cancelled it, I don't know what could ever be positively achieved, but by going on the attack, instead of being contrite and apologising for delivering a poor, poor season he had effectively signed his own death warrant.

At this conjuncture it can be hard to see how we proceed next, but it was made crystal clear for me with a couple of tweets from United player Wally Downes, where he stated that if Sheffield United attack and defend with purpose when the fans respond brilliant but when we play tiki taki football and try passing the ball off the park then Bramall Lane is like a library, he hit the nail on the head for me, but if Chris Wilder does come in, like has been widely speculated them I feel that is at least a start.

I've not written this as a personal attack on Nigel Adkins, for everything that went wrong I still believe he wanted to be a success and I think that he did everything he could to make his time at Bramall Lane a success but the crux of the matter is that for all his effort and 'endeavour', he just wasn't very good. That is why the club have done the right thing at the perfect time.
 

You don't become a bad manager overnight, he just needs a certain type of player to respond to his methods. He had that at Scunny and Southampton, he didn't have it here, and that's a bunch of triers who never say die, and whom have a backbone.

He'll take a break now I think.
 
You don't become a bad manager overnight, he just needs a certain type of player to respond to his methods. He had that at Scunny and Southampton, he didn't have it here, and that's a bunch of triers who never say die, and whom have a backbone.

He'll take a break now I think.

He took a break after Reading so he could study football psychology (I think it was) and that concerned me when he was appointed.
 
Nigel Adkins was the best possible appointment we could have made this time last year, but his reign was disappointing, in fact the perfect word I can use to describe his reign is underwhelming,

I gave him the season before I started throwing my toys out of the pram, and I would have backed him to have the first few games of next season to see what he could have done next season, as I think he needed more time to display what he could do, but I also had began to have doubts that his summer recruitment might not be what we wanted and there can be no doubts that sacking him is the right thing to do.

He came in as a manager with a superb track record of getting out of this division, with an excellent reputation as a motivator, and finding players on a budget, I know a couple of Scunthorpe fans and they said he was an absolutely outstanding manager, Southampton fans also rated him highly, but he had a spell that had also been disappointing at Reading and that was the precursor to his spell at the Lane.

His mistakes had been numerous, right from the start. The first was Connor Sammon, my understanding that he was already a done deal under Clough and Brannigan, but he didn't even seem to veto this deal and unfortunately we was lumbered with an awful player all season, he also failed to act quickly to jettison some of the deadwood from the squad last summer when he had the chance, and decided to give them all a fresh start, but by doing that he was effectively starting with the same set of failures, and putting more pressure on himself by effectively gambling on his own managerial skills to get the best out of an average set of players without strengthening sufficiently to give himself a better chance of being a success.

Tactically he looked poor, he didn't seem to be particularly quick to change this tactically when things weren't working, his substitutions were often baffling, and he often seems reluctant to change formations and tactics during a match especially when things hadn't been working well.

When he did change his tactics they was often after a spell of poor form, and th season can be broken down in to thirds, we started the season playing an attacking passing game that actually wasn't that bad to watch when we playing well, but when results dipped he turned to direct, long ball tactics that was awful to watch but did grind out a few results, before ditching that and going for a 3-5-2 formation that was also clearly not the solution.

His forays in to the transfer market were sporadic and hit and miss. The only signing he made that could be classed as an unqualified success was the signing of Billy Sharp, he also signed the awful Martyn Woolford, Sammon was more or less here before Adkins came, Edgar was a direct response to the Gillingham hiding, and he spent too long trying to bring in Dan Burn and Dean Hammond, the latter coming in and being a poor signing, for several reasons, and near the end of the season he brought in Alex Baptiste who was a vast improvement on the dire Neill Collins who was jettisoned 30 games too late in to the season.

With the rest of players we still saw the rest of the same old failures, failing again. Only a couple of players improved last season and they was George Long and Che Adams, the rest either stayed resolutely mediocre or regressed badly. His team selections seemed to be random at the start of season, and that set the theme with players coming for a few games before being dropped, often never to be seem again, whilst others would get tried and tried again despite never improving or adding anything to the side, then there was the favourites who seemingly became bombproof despite turning in poor performance with an alarming frequency. The core of the players who ended the season had been the same set of players who has been paramount in the last couple of seasons of League One mediocrity, he can't solely place the blame on the players for his sacking, but towards the end of the season you certainly didn't a sense that they was fighting for the manager, but then again you haven't seen them fighting for much this season.

All season the results had been poor, I struggle to think of more than 1 or 2 games where I came out of the match thinking that we had actually played well, whilst we picked up most of our points in games where we really should have expected to win, whilst the poor results and performances are the ones that lingered on in the mind the longest. I don't want to be disrespectful here but there defeats against Gillingham, Bury, Colchester, Shrewsbury, Bury, Rochdale and finishing the season meekly surrendering to his old side Scunthorpe, were for frequent and were totally unacceptable for Adkins job to remain tenable. His pre and post match media work became more and more deluded to the point where people actually wondered what he was taking, a lot of was guff about showing endeavour, grit and determination mixed with sound bites such as 'pressure makes diamonds' and often you wondered if he had actually lost the plot.

The final straw came last Sunday, that was an absolutely unacceptable performance and defeat, and his thinly veiled attack on the supporters was the final straw. Thought the season there was a real sense that the United fans has given him time, and showed a lot more patience than a lot of other managers has been shown. We had continued to turn out in numbers, often with blind faith, and that level of support this season has been unprecedented and totally undeserved by the playing staff and management team, and the supporters had only really turned on that last day against Scunthorpe where the team rightfully got treated with a tumultuous mix of anger, apathy, and resentment as the frustrations of another bitterly disappointing season came to the fore, and we couldn't hide our disgust any more. Adkins aced all this by seeing through an completely pointless 'lap of appreciation' when they really should have cancelled it, I don't know what could ever be positively achieved, but by going on the attack, instead of being contrite and apologising for delivering a poor, poor season he had effectively signed his own death warrant.

At this conjuncture it can be hard to see how we proceed next, but it was made crystal clear for me with a couple of tweets from United player Wally Downes, where he stated that if Sheffield United attack and defend with purpose when the fans respond brilliant but when we play tiki taki football and try passing the ball off the park then Bramall Lane is like a library, he hit the nail on the head for me, but if Chris Wilder does come in, like has been widely speculated them I feel that is at least a start.

I've not written this as a personal attack on Nigel Adkins, for everything that went wrong I still believe he wanted to be a success and I think that he did everything he could to make his time at Bramall Lane a success but the crux of the matter is that for all his effort and 'endeavour', he just wasn't very good. That is why the club have done the right thing at the perfect time.

Good post.

But I'm unsure as to the relevance / accuracy of tweets from the football genius aka Wally Downes !!!

I do not believe that a total roots and branch overall of our playing style is whats required. A significant change over in personnel, absolutely.

But with a bit, and I mean a bit, of fine tuning, I think we are on the right path.

UTB.
 
Good post.

But I'm unsure as to the relevance / accuracy of tweets from the football genius aka Wally Downes !!!

I do not believe that a total roots and branch overall of our playing style is whats required. A significant change over in personnel, absolutely.

But with a bit, and I mean a bit, of fine tuning, I think we are on the right path.

UTB.

The tweets from Wally Downes just summed up where was going wrong.
 
You don't become a bad manager overnight, he just needs a certain type of player to respond to his methods. He had that at Scunny and Southampton, he didn't have it here, and that's a bunch of triers who never say die, and whom have a backbone.

He'll take a break now I think.
He didn't become a bad manager overnight. He was shit at Reading too.
 
My final verdict: A good manager and a good man failed by cunts in the boardroom and cunts in the dressing room, as we attempt to compete with Newcastle and Aston Villa as the biggest joke of a club in football.

What????

If they're our competition for the award we've pissed it by miles. When clubs like that spend half a decade in the lower leagues then they might come within a country mile of us as under achievers.
 
Have already posted this, but it probably belongs more in this thread.

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When we hired him I remember saying "if this man, with this CV, can't get us out of this division - who can?" Sadly it hasn't worked out, the scale of the mess that Clough left behind was underestimated by many, including I. Adkins inherited a squad of largely poor athletes, many with dismal injury records, on wages disproportionate to their talents (see the numerous players who have left us on downward trajectories - several into League 2), however his earliest decisions last summer really crucified him.

I wrote on here before the season had started that I was starting to worry a little bit about Adkins, we all knew what our biggest problems were from last season; poor defenders (McEveley the worst of them), a lack of mobility in all areas of the pitch (Murphy an exception to that rule), not enough height and a weak spine starting at goalkeeper. His answer was to sign Woolford, Sammon and Sharp, no defenders and make McEveley his captain. That remains to be some of the worst management I've seen at Sheffield United in recent years (and recent years have been terrible). When we lost 4-0 to Gillingham with a back 5 of Long, Freeman, Collins, McEveley and McFadzean, in hindsight, nobody should have been at all surprised. There was talk of "big consequences" but even worse still, he didn't do anything. Instead he allowed a few decent results (not peformances) to cover everything up... And then the window shut, Murphy sold, despite the "not going anywhere" spiel, crucially he wasn't replaced (see Stephen Quinn, Nick Blackman, Harry Maguire, Matt Lowton, Kevin McDonald for examples of what inevitably happens next).


The results continued to be poor, the performances inept, but above all of this the response from Adkins was virtually non-existent. There was no radical change in tactics, formations or style of play and the January transfer window (incredibly) didn't see us strengthen at all, though he did manage to ship out a lot of the dross. Week after week the same boring, dishonest interviews, insulting to the 18,000+ fans as if they hadn't just been and watched the game for themselves. His parting shots at the fans were poor of a man who despite his failings as a manager, I always thought was a decent bloke. There is an element of truth to his accusations, we can whip up a bit of a nasty atmosphere, but we've been in free fall for almost a decade, half of which has been spent in League 1 now, you'd think there would have been more of an understanding. He never felt like a great fit for this football club, I was always under the impression he had read too many American "how to be a success" manuals and his constant repetitive, positive outbursts contradicted the reality and were never going to resonate with a largely working class, South Yorkshire demographic, more used to straight talking realism and often prone to pessimism.

Truth be told, I would have given him another shot at it, our hire and fire policy means that many of our managers can legitimately argue they weren't given enough time to build. But my views are purely based on his CV, as Blades manager he has done nothing to make me sad to see him go and he's the master of his own making. Really hope Chris Wilder can sort out this mess, but sadly I'm not sure he can. Our problems go deeper than the manager and having watched McCabe holding court with the fans the other night I'm pretty sure I know where they lie.
UTB
 

My verdict ....Too early to tell if he would have been any good
 
verdict.. didn't see enough to show that we would have been in any different a position by december. hammond ultimately cost him his job
that .. and the shrewsbury game was the worst i've 'EVER' seen us play. i was laughing it was so shambolic and so were many others
 
New poster here, hello all. will save all the intro stuff for correct place .... that aside i guess now's as good a time as any for a first post.

As with the vast majority, was chuffed with Adkins appointment and was very optimistic in spite of what he was inheriting. For the record I wouldn't have sacked Clough when we did but couldn't help quickly getting excited about Nige Mk11. Do I generally consider myself easily won over? Two faced? Maybe ... but im probably more just a bit of slag when it comes to this Club.

Its not worked out, for reasons many. But I don't think NA's ability has suddenly turned to shite and I think he'll get his wheels back in motion soon. To succeed here he needed different circumstances. I don't blade KM or the Prince either. Football decisions aside though, I really couldn't listen to his post match interviews. Both him and Big Jim - more waffle than a Bruges High Street.

It's a bit weird being a Blade at the minute. Im not outraged, nor happy. Would love to think we'll have a long term gaffer in the future but who the feck knows.

Lastly, i dont agree that we need a complete overhaul in every department to get out of this league - its generally pretty bad and given how especially bad we were, it was amazing we still relatively competitive for a 6th spot finish going in to last few games. If we're not a million miles away when we're wank than we can afford ourselves a wee bit of confidence :)
 
Verdict:

11th in League One after being allowed to bring in Hammond, Sharp and Baptiste on massive wages is a failed season.

His remit was promotion, he even says in the London press conference from last year his aim is to get promoted this season. He failed.

He was also so thick as to have a go at the fanbase, completely forgetting that the board is 90% made up businessmen from Sheffield, who are all lifetime blades fans.

Goodbye Nigel, thanks for your endeavours but you just couldn't do it in the arena.
 
i dont agree that we need a complete overhaul in every department to get out of this league - its generally pretty bad and given how especially bad we were, it was amazing we still relatively competitive for a 6th spot finish going in to last few games. If we're not a million miles away when we're wank than we can afford ourselves a wee bit of confidence :)


Out of curiosity, out of the players we have in the team at the minute who would you rate as keeping, excluding Sharp, Adams, Basham and Brayford?

Now is the perfect time for the changes in direction we need. Half of the dross are out of contract and a new man coming in can bring in his own team from the start.

I think, given how poor of a league it has been this season in league one (and it has because there's not really been much competition between the teams and no stand alone candidate) to finish where we have is a disgrace given the resources we have at our disposal (I'm not talking millions flowing in the bank etc I include the infrastructure, the crowd asset etc). This season, with this set of players, shows how far off we really have been.



Welcome by the way :D
 
Out of curiosity, out of the players we have in the team at the minute who would you rate as keeping, excluding Sharp, Adams, Basham and Brayford?

Now is the perfect time for the changes in direction we need. Half of the dross are out of contract and a new man coming in can bring in his own team from the start.

I think, given how poor of a league it has been this season in league one (and it has because there's not really been much competition between the teams and no stand alone candidate) to finish where we have is a disgrace given the resources we have at our disposal (I'm not talking millions flowing in the bank etc I include the infrastructure, the crowd asset etc). This season, with this set of players, shows how far off we really have been.



Welcome by the way :D


Hi Clarky and thanks!

I agree totally with what you say - didn't really articulate things as I should. if we can replace the superbly qualified crap sacks then we definitely should. I was more broadly suggesting (purely for my own faith concerns) that just a few additions (primarily at the back) would do wonders for our chances. We've leaked so many pathetic goals this year.

In the deffo keep net I'd put Done and Long.
 
My final verdict: A good manager and a good man failed by cunts in the boardroom and cunts in the dressing room, as we attempt to compete with Newcastle and Aston Villa as the biggest joke of a club in football.

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Nailed it
 
The Titanic only sank because it was holed under the water line....but I'm glad to see Chris Wilder appointed. I hope we don't do a Micky Adams to him.

The mad monk is still ringing the bells.
 
New poster here, hello all. will save all the intro stuff for correct place .... that aside i guess now's as good a time as any for a first post.

As with the vast majority, was chuffed with Adkins appointment and was very optimistic in spite of what he was inheriting. For the record I wouldn't have sacked Clough when we did but couldn't help quickly getting excited about Nige Mk11. Do I generally consider myself easily won over? Two faced? Maybe ... but im probably more just a bit of slag when it comes to this Club.

Its not worked out, for reasons many. But I don't think NA's ability has suddenly turned to shite and I think he'll get his wheels back in motion soon. To succeed here he needed different circumstances. I don't blade KM or the Prince either. Football decisions aside though, I really couldn't listen to his post match interviews. Both him and Big Jim - more waffle than a Bruges High Street.

It's a bit weird being a Blade at the minute. Im not outraged, nor happy. Would love to think we'll have a long term gaffer in the future but who the feck knows.

Lastly, i dont agree that we need a complete overhaul in every department to get out of this league - its generally pretty bad and given how especially bad we were, it was amazing we still relatively competitive for a 6th spot finish going in to last few games. If we're not a million miles away when we're wank than we can afford ourselves a wee bit of confidence :)

"...I don't blade KM or the Prince either...."

I should hope not, carrying a knife is not big and it's not clever!
 
For me he was absolutely the right appointment. Ticked all the boxes in terms of track record, modern day manager (so I thought) that had studied the game and been there right through the leagues. Hoped his Reading spell was a blip.

Sadly less than a year later and it did not work. I cannot blame the board really. They made a great appointment I thought. A coup I felt at the time. He gave him tools to sign a lot of players on big wages (Sharp, Edgar, Sammon, Hammond, Woolford) regardless of whether he had chance to sign many permanent players. Sure he inherited a lot of dross but most of the squad had played this level or higher. If someone had said we would finish mid table I would have been shocked and wondering what went wrong.

The reality is he was really poor. Seemed a nice guy (up the ridiculous rant at fans on Sunday - he knew he was gone I think but should have handled himself with more class but frustration took over) and I think he really wanted it to work. He worked very hard and seemed to really immerse himself in Sheffield and its culture. It just did not work. Seems like we say it a lot.

However regardless of what the board has done before there were not many reasons to keep him sadly. I saw nothing to suggest he would get the players in, or change the approach to see us doing that much better next season really. We have not really improved much all season so not sure why fans think in 3 months we will be a different side. Sure he may get a few new players in but his signings have been dreadful.

As for Wilder? Not sure. No point speculating as none of us know as proved by Adkins a year on. He could be great. He could flop. No idea.

Gut feeling is he may find this job a completely different animal to that he has left. At Northampton he did brilliantly (players not paid) but was very much overachieving. He has been around the lower leagues for a while and done ok but I am not convinced totally it is the right appointment. I personally feel (never thought I would say this) that it was somewhat rushed. Sure he may go elsewhere but if he wanted job enough he would wait. Why did we not consider anyone else?

We will see but my gut feeling is this could be a bit Micky Adams.

Feel free to come back and slate me in 6 months if we are top of the league and flying!

I would love it to work. He seems a down to earth bloke, a Blade (does help this and feels our pain and will know the club etc) and I am sure will give it his all.
 

For me he was absolutely the right appointment. Ticked all the boxes in terms of track record, modern day manager (so I thought) that had studied the game and been there right through the leagues. Hoped his Reading spell was a blip.

Sadly less than a year later and it did not work. I cannot blame the board really. They made a great appointment I thought. A coup I felt at the time. He gave him tools to sign a lot of players on big wages (Sharp, Edgar, Sammon, Hammond, Woolford) regardless of whether he had chance to sign many permanent players. Sure he inherited a lot of dross but most of the squad had played this level or higher. If someone had said we would finish mid table I would have been shocked and wondering what went wrong.

The reality is he was really poor. Seemed a nice guy (up the ridiculous rant at fans on Sunday - he knew he was gone I think but should have handled himself with more class but frustration took over) and I think he really wanted it to work. He worked very hard and seemed to really immerse himself in Sheffield and its culture. It just did not work. Seems like we say it a lot.

However regardless of what the board has done before there were not many reasons to keep him sadly. I saw nothing to suggest he would get the players in, or change the approach to see us doing that much better next season really. We have not really improved much all season so not sure why fans think in 3 months we will be a different side. Sure he may get a few new players in but his signings have been dreadful.

As for Wilder? Not sure. No point speculating as none of us know as proved by Adkins a year on. He could be great. He could flop. No idea.

Gut feeling is he may find this job a completely different animal to that he has left. At Northampton he did brilliantly (players not paid) but was very much overachieving. He has been around the lower leagues for a while and done ok but I am not convinced totally it is the right appointment. I personally feel (never thought I would say this) that it was somewhat rushed. Sure he may go elsewhere but if he wanted job enough he would wait. Why did we not consider anyone else?

We will see but my gut feeling is this could be a bit Micky Adams.

Feel free to come back and slate me in 6 months if we are top of the league and flying!

I would love it to work. He seems a down to earth bloke, a Blade (does help this and feels our pain and will know the club etc) and I am sure will give it his all.

Good post . Only time will tell if he is another Micky Adams. It's whether or not Wilder can deal with the expectations , from both club and fans . Hope he can but history tells us otherwise . Players ins and outs will set the benchmark for me .

It's up to Wilder to kill the bladey blade nonsense . Time will tell , but for once lets us all be in unison with a managerial appointment, instead of slagging off , when less than a day into the job.

UTB
 

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