Adkins out.

[sheffielder]

and just to rub it in Higdons got 2 now dor Oldham

Didn't play like that for us so what does it matter

 

[travellingblade]

Although I'm not happy with performances and results, the idea of getting rid of yet another Manager is daft.

He's go to be given a full closed season to get HIS players in (get rid of the majority of the current waste of space).

I have to admit I'm NOT impressed with HIS acquisitions so far.

 

[blade too long]

And you said we were going up and got carried away when we won 4 on the bounce !

you start with faith and belief things will get better
last night was the beginning of the end for Adkins if he cant halt the slide

 

[blade too long]

Foxy, Foxy, someone's hacked BTL.

I alkways criticise when its needed
last night was unacceptable levels of professionalism
it lends itself to being ctitical about it

Adkins plan so far is falling well short of what he promised , as an experienced league one campaigner, its becoming more than disappointing now-
The "defending" last night I last saw when refereeing Killamarsh Dinamos under 10 s
Their third goal saw 2 missed tackles wide right then planted feet in the six yards bx allowing their forward an unchallenged tap in, awful awful lack of energy

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

He's quickly taking us back to those dark days of Weir. After the cup and playoffs last season it didn't need much to move us up a notch - just a bit of this famous Adkins positivity.

Instead results are worse and performances no better than under Clough. Apart from Sharp his signings have been dire, and after 19 games he still doesn't seem to know his best XI.

And he might get a bit of goodwill off fans if he acknowledged the mess he's made so far, rather than patronising us with talk of Hammond's unseen genius.

This slump has come at a bad time for Adkins. The board will no doubt be wondering whether to back him in January if the best we can dream of is the playoffs.

To save themselves the sleepless nights, I reckon they should get rid now.

We have got to get away from this signing up of old pals, Clough did it and landed us with a boat load of average dross, and NA is now repeating the formula. By the time these old boys are signing for us, their best days are behind them or they're crocked. Totally agree with Fulwood re Hammond to start with, I'd send him back tomorrow, adds nothing to the team that we haven't got already.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Yes you do. Adkins will sort it out ,but not overnight. If you want him out, who on earth do you think could motivate the squad that the Clough built? Genuine question. As 1889 says, maybe tongue in cheek, our manager has a good record regarding promotions. I would have hoped that the Prince would have dug a little deeper in his cash bag to resolve a dreadful situation FWIW the Saints supporters in my family think that we were fortunate to get Adkins.

What I would say is Nigel, your signings so far have been shockingly bad. You are better than that. Now take a deep breath and start again come January. No more waste of space squad fillers like your old mate Woolford, York are struggling at the moment and I'm sure they would welcome him back.

 

[bladesadviser]

I'm sticking by Adkins. He's been poor but he's inherited a mess. We can't keep changing managers. As long as we stay up and start building in summer, he needs another season.

Sorry Robbie, I don't agree he inherited a mess. He joined a team that only needed some tweaking to push on from a play off semi final and league cup semi final. Only Doyle left the club from last season prior to him joining and then Murphy left once he joined. In a rare moment of full agreement on this forum we all knew what positions needed strengthening and yet Adkins ignored it and to be honest from that awful first day at Gillingham has anyone been really impressed with any performance? Doncaster, possibly Chesterfield?

I don't know if the answer is continuing to sack managers but another 4 or 5 losses in the next few games (which looking at our fixtures is quite likely) and we could be in a relegation battle and may need the "new manager" bounce to get us out of trouble

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Sorry but madness is keeping a failing manager. To have faith in something it has
to be backed up with reason, Adkins hasn't given anyone a single reason to believe in him since he walked through the door. Your argument is one for us to show blind faith and that, everything considered, would be real madness.

At least I have MADE an reason - you have made NO reason.

Continuity is the reason - we give Adkins the time to solve the problem. Get rid and build from the bottom.

Clough was rebuilding after the Wier debacle and although not to every ones liking (yes he had issues), he at least had a modicum of a plan and if he had been here this year we may be bored to tears but at least it was a plan that was evolving.

Adkins said he would evaluate the whole squad - which he has and probably still is doing.
Adkins said pre season, the squad was not good enough for promotion - how right he is, but is probably a lot worse than ever he imagined.
Adkins has tried to change a squad bought for boring 4-5-1 into something more suitable. Sadly the players are incapable of doing that or even come anywhere close. The players (and yes even some of Adkins buys) are not suitable for 3rd tier football.
Adkins will (IMHO) be given time to resolve the problem, whether you and other kneejerk reactionary fans want him sacked or not.

These are not his players and whilst Adkins (like Clough) should accept some failures along the way, getting rid of yet another manager is not the solution.

I put it to you, and other Adkins out people to put forward a solution - don't just say........he's failed..........put forward a solution. Put forward how you would solve the problem. It's so easy to say.........."sack the manager".

The solution for me and others is to let Adkins start again and that he has a reasonable amount of time.

Over to you and others on this "Adkins out" thread.............

UTB as always and yes, I am as pissed off as I ever have been - even in the dark days of relegation to the 4th tier

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Not often I disagree with you Fulwood, but no mate, no.

"... tell Adkins he has minimum 2 and a half years to turn it round...."

thanks for the first line - appreciated.

As for a post of mine to "chipsncake", put forward an alternative solution to getting rid of Adkins.

I don't mind discussing alternative arguments on any topic - but it has to be followed up with constructive debate about a solution.

Saying "Sack Adkins" is easy.

We are seeing the folly of getting rid of Clough - all I see now is when the going gets tough, fans are picking the dead easy option.

solution?

UTB

 

[marsh blade]

you start with faith and belief things will get better
last night was the beginning of the end for Adkins if he cant halt the slide

I wonder if he should keep a spine of experienced players ie Bash and Edgar at centre half Hammond in midfield then flood the rest with youngsters and a re-call for our most promising player this season K.Wallace even get that lad Khan back from his loan spell give him a run for our trip to Barnsley also let the so called senior pro's from last night train with the academy coaches and Adkins and co coach the youngsters tell them there going to get a run as 1st teamers ! It may still not work but at least we will get some hunger and fight back.

 

[marsh blade]

I wonder if he should keep a spine of experienced players ie Bash and Edgar at centre half Hammond in midfield then flood the rest with youngsters and a re-call for our most promising player this season K.Wallace even get that lad Khan back from his loan spell give him a run for our trip to Barnsley also let the so called senior pro's from last night train with the academy coaches and Adkins and co coach the youngsters tell them there going to get a run as 1st teamers ! It may still not work but at least we will get some hunger and fight back.

Also stick Brayford straight in .

 

[blade too long]

needs serious surgery at the back
score 2 at home again but seriously let down , more by really bad organisation ,no ones bossing the back 4
no one bawling out instructions or handing out bollockings

Id play morgan with a zimmer frame rather than go out that lacking in leadership

 

[Jan Age]

Adkins is just the filling in a shit sandwich. With the bread being the players and the board.

He must really wonder what he's walked in to.

Shit players with no passion, fight or belief to one side of him.

2 chairman 10,000's miles away and a mouthpiece with no idea about football to the other.

It's easy to say sack a manager but whoever you put in between those two things it will still be a shit sandwich.

He is the only one with an ounce of credibility amongst the lot with the results to back it up.

He must be singing: clowns to the left of me jokers to the right...

 

[beatific blade]

I feel sorry for Adkins.

If he's 'lost the dressing room' then the dressing room can fuck right off!

Who on earth do they think they are?! They're collectively shite!

Adkins has a proven track record of success. This squad has a proven track record of being dog shit. Go figure that one out, ffs.....

 

[him behind you]

Don't need to say anymore.

Just put you on ignore piggy. New member and easy subject to wind people up. Nice troll.

 

[breeny]

Adkins is still selecting players which he probably thinks are shit!!! How??!

I think that he needs to freeze players out and go with his instincts on the best team.

Triple half time substitution though? Amateur.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I feel sorry for Adkins.

If he's 'lost the dressing room' then the dressing room can fuck right off!

Who on earth do they think they are?! They're collectively shite!

Adkins has a proven track record of success. This squad has a proven track record of being dog shit. Go figure that one out, ffs.....

I don't, just listened to his interview on RS, talks bollocks.

 

[true99blade]

Last night was the final straw for me. At the end of the day Sheffield United conceding more goals in the league than Blackpool shows some sign of ineptitude of the manager. He's come in, been made aware of the problems regarding defence and in general the shiteness of this team, but opted NOT to move on players or bring in quality judging from pre-season ganes against the likes of fecking Macclesfield. Extremely shitty management. If Matty Done is sold in January then I think I may just crack finally. The one player who tries. The one player who possesses some real quality. He's the one player Adkins seems determined to be rid of. It saddens me what is happening. I joined in with the chant "you're not fit to wear the shirt" and I read that people are 'happy' to have sung such song. I didn't see any happiness from that. It needed to be said. That's what saddens me.

 

[Deaneandagana]

thanks for the first line - appreciated.

As for a post of mine to "chipsncake", put forward an alternative solution to getting rid of Adkins.

I don't mind discussing alternative arguments on any topic - but it has to be followed up with constructive debate about a solution.

Saying "Sack Adkins" is easy.

We are seeing the folly of getting rid of Clough - all I see now is when the going gets tough, fans are picking the dead easy option.

solution?

UTB

Your argument re continuity stacks up, after all where would Man Utd be if Sir Alex had got the bullet in 1986 or whenever it was. Having reflected all day over last nights debacle, I'm kind of split over what the solution should be.

The argument for NA is purely based on the continuity scenario, given the Port Vale 1999 style performance last night there can be no other supporting criteria.

The arguments against are numerous and have been well documented on this site therefore in all probability the average man on the Clapham Omnibus would have had him sacked last night.

Perhaps he needs help, an older experienced head to act as a critical friend, someone like, for example, Joe Royle or David Pleat - the sort of person to view goings on from a distance & offer guidance.

As a side issue, I would love to see / hear what Gary Neville makes of us when him & Carragher do their MNF analysis and perhaps hearing something like that may help NA.

One thing is for sure performances & results can not carry on in this manner otherwise we're playing Dagenham & Redbridge next year.

 

[Sirius]

I don't, just listened to his interview on RS, talks bollocks.

Adkins, could address this squad until the cows come home; in one ear and out the other. This lot of miss matched fools on the pitch will not, cannot show any improvement. For a start they are easily bullied and knocked off the ball.
Clough and Adkins, IMO would have liked to play exiting football. It seems to me that they are in the wrong league for that, and would be served better by one or two hard men, willing to put themselves about a bit
How many of us would take the old style Wimbledon teams, just for a year until we escape this horrible third division?

 

[Sirius]

Your argument re continuity stacks up, after all where would Man Utd be if Sir Alex had got the bullet in 1986 or whenever it was. Having reflected all day over last nights debacle, I'm kind of split over what the solution should be.

The argument for NA is purely based on the continuity scenario, given the Port Vale 1999 style performance last night there can be no other supporting criteria.

The arguments against are numerous and have been well documented on this site therefore in all probability the average man on the Clapham Omnibus would have had him sacked last night.

Perhaps he needs help, an older experienced head to act as a critical friend, someone like, for example, Joe Royle or David Pleat - the sort of person to view goings on from a distance & offer guidance.

As a side issue, I would love to see / hear what Gary Neville makes of us when him & Carragher do their MNF analysis and perhaps hearing something like that may help NA.

One thing is for sure performances & results can not carry on in this manner otherwise we're playing Dagenham & Redbridge next year.

Erm erm Cheer up David Pleat. A failed Pig Meister Not for me thanks. Adkin's CV suggests that he is more capable than those you suggest as helpers. He is his own man and should stand or fall by his own efforts. I believe that he will turn things round but it will take time.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[marsh blade]

What a "look at me i'm a fucking idiot " btb.The man is a fruit cake ! A funny one though.

 

[chipsncake]

If you bought sky TVs at £50 / month and didn't like the programs would you tell them to cancel after the first month and pay £550 cancellation charge to get Virgin in?

We can't just keep hiring high profile managers and their army of back room staff then spending what money is avaiable on cancelling their contracts!

We have no

At least I have MADE an reason - you have made NO reason.

Continuity is the reason - we give Adkins the time to solve the problem. Get rid and build from the bottom.

Clough was rebuilding after the Wier debacle and although not to every ones liking (yes he had issues), he at least had a modicum of a plan and if he had been here this year we may be bored to tears but at least it was a plan that was evolving.

Adkins said he would evaluate the whole squad - which he has and probably still is doing.
Adkins said pre season, the squad was not good enough for promotion - how right he is, but is probably a lot worse than ever he imagined.
Adkins has tried to change a squad bought for boring 4-5-1 into something more suitable. Sadly the players are incapable of doing that or even come anywhere close. The players (and yes even some of Adkins buys) are not suitable for 3rd tier football.
Adkins will (IMHO) be given time to resolve the problem, whether you and other kneejerk reactionary fans want him sacked or not.

These are not his players and whilst Adkins (like Clough) should accept some failures along the way, getting rid of yet another manager is not the solution.

I put it to you, and other Adkins out people to put forward a solution - don't just say........he's failed..........put forward a solution. Put forward how you would solve the problem. It's so easy to say.........."sack the manager".

The solution for me and others is to let Adkins start again and that he has a reasonable amount of time.

Over to you and others on this "Adkins out" thread.............

UTB as always and yes, I am as pissed off as I ever have been - even in the dark days of relegation to the 4th tier

You really need the reasons for sacking Adkins spelling out ? How about player recruitment, tactics, motivation, team selection, substitutions, even aftermatch interviews which are so far from an acceptable standard it's embarrassing.
So we give him more time? Based on what? Never mind his CV, this can be seen as either very good or worrying depending on which slant you want to put on it. How has this man advanced the cause of SUFC in any way shape or form? Your arguements are trying to buy him time and fair enough if you think they are reasons, but for me, sorry, just because we have -ucked up so many times in the past it is no reason to persevere with a manager who has so clearly lost the changing room. Have you listened to his interviews? At a time when we so clearly need inspiration he sounds more and more out of his depth with every word.
What are you looking for as a solution? Is there any other solution than replacing a manager who is not up to the job? Stick with him and prolong the agony? Don't understand what you're looking for here, if its names then no one could come in and do any worse, but for starters Dean Smith, Hassailbank, Flitcroft and Edinburgh would all be worth an interview and in truth any board worth it's salt would be constantly making themselves aware of who would be worth looking at and that would include having a serious awareness of what is available beyond these shores.
Let Adkins start again? Where have you been for the last 6 months, not assessing the contribution of the manager that's for sure.
And you're not the only one who is more pissed off with the club than they have ever been before, there are thousands of us, and maybe you should be asking how much Adkins is responsible for you feeling this way.
Kneejerk reaction? How much further do we have to plummet before you realise we are heading in only one direction and that's the wrong one?
Continuity? Why on earth should we continue with something that is so obviously failing? Because our track record when it comes to appointing new managers is atrocious?Come on, judge the manager on his performance and nothing else, his signings alone are good enough reason to move him on.
To conclude, its all about opinions and the strong feelings that are obviously about just show how much we are all concerned with our current predicament.

 

[Bladesman]

What a "look at me i'm a fucking idiot " btb.The man is a fruit cake ! A funny one though.

I thought it was TrueBlade.

 

[Grappler]

thanks for the first line - appreciated.

As for a post of mine to "chipsncake", put forward an alternative solution to getting rid of Adkins.

I don't mind discussing alternative arguments on any topic - but it has to be followed up with constructive debate about a solution.

Saying "Sack Adkins" is easy.

We are seeing the folly of getting rid of Clough - all I see now is when the going gets tough, fans are picking the dead easy option.

solution?

UTB

I don't mean we should sack Adkins but another two and and half years (if things continue to go wrong) will mean another expensive contract to buy out /manager on gardening leave, if he gets the shove. Another year by all means, but another two and half could be costly.

I am not sure what is going wrong at BDBTL, I wanted Adkins, I did not think there was anyone better who was available, who would come to League one for a team of perrenial "second bests", his CV is good, he seems an astute bloke, yet things are going from bad to worse. We need the board to step up in January or we will have a shit second half of the season.