Adkins' Most Important 4 Games of the Season

[robbiez666]

Coming up are:

H.

Crewe
Walsall
Gillingham

A.

Southend

If we don't beat Crewe and then struggle to get much from the other games I think Kev's twitchy trigger finger will be in action.

Come the 10th April if we've only gained 2 points from our last 4 games I fear for him.

We're down to a bare bones of options. Personally, I'd like him to continue where he left off against Oldham. I don't really care about results at this stage just showing signs of hope for next season and giving the kids a chance.

I doubt I'm in the majority.

 

[alcoblade]

Coming up are:

H.

Crewe
Walsall
Gillingham

A.

Southend

If we don't beat Crewe and then struggle to get much from the other games I think Kev's twitchy trigger finger will be in action.

Come the 10th April if we've only gained 2 points from our last 4 games I fear for him.

We're down to a bare bones of options. Personally, I'd like him to continue where he left off against Oldham. I don't really care about results at this stage just showing signs of hope for next season and giving the kids a chance.

I doubt I'm in the majority.

I don't care about giving the kids a chance as they don't look good enough, but I think we should be building for next drain.

I'm behind Adkins, but he does himself no favours by bringing players like Sammon back into the team. He needs to demonstrate that he has at least learned what needs to be done.

UTB

 

[yorkshirecoast]

The most important games of the season have passed us by - and Adkins and his players failed miserably.

As for the rest of the season I want to see what I wanted all along - positive, high tempo, totally commited, winning football.

Oh, and I also want to see McCabe and Adkins fuck off.

 

[Harry's Game]

We will beat Crewe, but I struggle to see us winning anymore until possibly the last game of the season.

 

[Deadbat]

I agree in some ways but it mattters little now in terms of results. The season is done. We would have to win the next 3 games to have any chance. Can anyone seriosuly see that happening. I think we will limp past Crewe, lost at Southend and maybe draw v Walsall and then lose to Gillingham. As above, doubt we will win more than a couple more games this season and finish well in the bottom half.

Ironically if Adkins played some more kids ad started to show a plan for next season even if we lost a few, think fans would live with that as you say.

However even with season nearly done, football is a results based business. Adkins has to show some optimisim for next season and basically prove he is worth another crack. McCabe has shown with so many other managers, he wont mess about (to his detriment you could say). I think like you say if we do have 3 or 4 poor results and slip to say 15th-17th as we probably would, McCabe may act.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Coming up are:

H.

Crewe
Walsall
Gillingham

A.

Southend

If we don't beat Crewe and then struggle to get much from the other games I think Kev's twitchy trigger finger will be in action.

Come the 10th April if we've only gained 2 points from our last 4 games I fear for him.

We're down to a bare bones of options. Personally, I'd like him to continue where he left off against Oldham. I don't really care about results at this stage just showing signs of hope for next season and giving the kids a chance.

I doubt I'm in the majority.

Them games will not make any difference . We may get 1 point out of 12 on current form.

Season ticket sales will be on the clubs mind , as results and performances appear to be secondary to the manager and players .

Lose games with the kids , you can take , lose games with so called professionals who play with nievity and a lack of responsibility comes down to Adkins , as why pick them in the first place . This is unacceptable .

Past caring of the results , just want to see commitment and passion . If Adkins cannot see the basics , he worries me.

It's like he is trying to orchestrate getting the sack , so he gets his compo , is another job coming up nearer to home , has he already been tapped up for a job coming up in the summer . There has to be a reason , as nobody can be this bad a manager surely unless it's accidentally on purpose .

UTB

 

[Lane Ender]

What a fucking disgrace that was lets go with the young uns what have we to loose.
Apart from Billy our few decent players are not performing
Make way for 4-5 youngsters against Crewe and let's have a go.

 

[Deadbat]

Yes it is odd. Yesterday I get the Millwall have some big players physically but then he played Cuvelier (what a no mark of a footballer he is) for Whiteman who is bigger. He cannot give me the he is young so may get intimidated rubbish too. Also dropping our best defender McEveley for Basham, and then Adams who is physically stronger than any of our other forwards for Sammon was just bewildering. We had just won 3-0; granted v dross. Why did he not just leave it as it was?

Bizarre decisions indeed.

 

[Lane Ender]

Yes it is odd. Yesterday I get the Millwall have some big players physically but then he played Cuvelier (what a no mark of a footballer he is) for Whiteman who is bigger. He cannot give me the he is young so may get intimidated rubbish too. Also dropping our best defender McEveley for Basham, and then Adams who is physically stronger than any of our other forwards for Sammon was just bewildering. We had just won 3-0; granted v dross. Why did he not just leave it as it was?

Bizarre decisions indeed.

That really puzzled me as well things were better against Oldham why change it.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

then Adams who is physically stronger than any of our other forwards for Sammon was just bewildering.

The Adams dropping was very much a message to the player, as made clear by Adkins in his interview – by all accounts Adams just didn't put the effort required into training this week. You would presume that had he done so he'd have been starting again. McEveley being dropped was the only one that seemed completely unexpected to me.

 

[grafikhaus]

As for the rest of the season I want to see what I wanted all along - positive, high tempo, totally commited, winning football.

Prepare for disappointment, then. Neither our players nor manager have the skill or tactical nous to play this style. United's future worries me greatly, especially with the pigs in the ascendancy. But an even bigger worry is this talk of 'giving the kids a chance'. They'd be eaten alive by the hardened pros. in Div. 3. If that's our only thing to hope for, it's 'hello Division Four'. Adams, maybe but I've seen nothing from the likes of Reed, D C-L etc. to inspire any confidence.

 

[Deadbat]

I kind of agree that I have not seen anything really exciting from any of the kids; save for Adams in flashes. Whiteman looked steady and Reed and DCL look like they will struggle to be professionals to me.

However we aint going to have a better chance of blooding a few and a few more than the next few weeks. Rather watch them than people who are not going to be here.

I saw nothing from Jagileka in watching 2 seasons of him in the reserves and youth to suggest he would make an England player. One might just surprise us.

 

[Tezza1889]

I think like you say if we do have 3 or 4 poor results and slip to say 15th-17th as we probably would, McCabe may act.

This part of your post has proper made me sit up and take notice, as I have spent a lot of time defending Adkins in general this season and banging the drum about sticking with it, if that's the best he can do with a team featuring, Brayford,Hammond,sharp, Adams and Done then I am really concerned if he doesn't get sacked....

Ir really really wanted this to work, I'm learning that as mcabe said we fans know fuck all about football..most qualified manager we could get, manages us to 17th in league one..... We surely couldn't think he'd lead us to the title next year..

 

[Isar]

I think he as till the end of the season, if then no play-offs he is gone.

 

[alcoblade]

This part of your post has proper made me sit up and take notice, as I have spent a lot of time defending Adkins in general this season and banging the drum about sticking with it, if that's the best he can do with a team featuring, Brayford,Hammond,sharp, Adams and Done then I am really concerned if he doesn't get sacked....

Ir really really wanted this to work, I'm learning that as mcabe said we fans know fuck all about football..most qualified manager we could get, manages us to 17th in league one..... We surely couldn't think he'd lead us to the title next year..

He'd get rid of most of the players that have led us to 17th. Though he's done a poor job this year, let's not over inflate the players he's working with.

I can't defend Hammond re signing if he does, but overall, the players are mid table third division players. It's clearly evidenced by the clubs that are coming in for them.

UTB

 

[axel smeets]

Coming up are:

H.

Crewe
Walsall
Gillingham

A.

Southend

If we don't beat Crewe and then struggle to get much from the other games I think Kev's twitchy trigger finger will be in action.

Come the 10th April if we've only gained 2 points from our last 4 games I fear for him.

We're down to a bare bones of options. Personally, I'd like him to continue where he left off against Oldham. I don't really care about results at this stage just showing signs of hope for next season and giving the kids a chance.

I doubt I'm in the majority.

I don't fear for Adkins, but the near 20k who are turning up every week after 5 years in Division Three.

 

[SwissBlade]

Coming up are:

H.

Crewe
Walsall
Gillingham

A.

Southend

If we don't beat Crewe and then struggle to get much from the other games I think Kev's twitchy trigger finger will be in action.

Come the 10th April if we've only gained 2 points from our last 4 games I fear for him.

We're down to a bare bones of options. Personally, I'd like him to continue where he left off against Oldham. I don't really care about results at this stage just showing signs of hope for next season and giving the kids a chance.

I doubt I'm in the majority.

Forget this season, its over. Play the kids and rebuild for next year

 

[Jostein's Bandage]

Dropping Adams because he's an arse is all well and good, but he's probably thinking fine keep dropping me. You'll get the sack playing Sammon so do what you fecking want.

 

[Esablade]

Dropping Adams because he's an arse is all well and good, but he's probably thinking fine keep dropping me. You'll get the sack playing Sammon so do what you fecking want.

Think I might pop down Shirecliffe and run me bollocks off for a few days, never know, I might get a start

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Forget this season, its over. Play the kids and rebuild for next year

Agree Swiss, whether Adkins continues as manager or not .

I know Adkins would earn more respect if he said it how it really is , instead of the political stance he takes . He has nothing to lose , the players are going , we ain't getting promotion this season , and all things being equal point that he will still be in a job next season. , unless he has no idea about his futures, and he keeps edging his bets.

To me the bloke may talk with confidence , talk is cheap , but in his defence we have lower end 3rd division players , hence we are were we are , even with Hammond .

UTB

 

[SwissBlade]

Agree Swiss, whether Adkins continues as manager or not .

I know Adkins would earn more respect if he said it how it really is , instead of the political stance he takes . He has nothing to lose , the players are going , we ain't getting promotion this season , and all things being equal point that he will still be in a job next season. , unless he has no idea about his futures, and he keeps edging his bets.

To me the bloke may talk with confidence , talk is cheap , but in his defence we have lower end 3rd division players , hence we are were we are , even with Hammond .

UTB

The players aren't bad, they're in a bad time of the careers.

And as for Adkins, he's not really going to come out and say that until its mathematically impossible to get into the play offs (personally i think he should say it when 2nd is mathematically impossible)

 

[grafikhaus]

This part of your post has proper made me sit up and take notice, as I have spent a lot of time defending Adkins in general this season and banging the drum about sticking with it, if that's the best he can do with a team featuring, Brayford,Hammond,sharp, Adams and Done then I am really concerned if he doesn't get sacked....

Ir really really wanted this to work, I'm learning that as mcabe said we fans know fuck all about football..most qualified manager we could get, manages us to 17th in league one..... We surely couldn't think he'd lead us to the title next year..

It amazes me that a lot of fans seem to think that it's us to blame for the last few seasons. We're 'impatient'. 'Can't keep sacking managers', 'Give him time.' etc. etc. You're right. Adkins' arrival was greeted with terrific goodwill when he came. Ditto Clough. We all wanted it to work. But the fact is, we've got significantly worse since last season. Now all we hear is 'Let him build his own team/ship out the dross' but how long do we give him? I reckon we're the most patient fans in football. If there was the slightest sign of a better future, then OK. But there isn't.

And as for chucking the kids into battle, that's something you do gradually so they can get guidance from the 'senlor pros'.

'You'll never win anything with kids'. Hitler tried it in Berlin in 1945, and look how that ended up.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Jesus was nailed to a cross on Good Friday,i think Adkins is getting very close to being nailed too.

 

[finlaytheblade]

I kind of agree that I have not seen anything really exciting from any of the kids; save for Adams in flashes. Whiteman looked steady and Reed and DCL look like they will struggle to be professionals to me.

However we aint going to have a better chance of blooding a few and a few more than the next few weeks. Rather watch them than people who are not going to be here.

I saw nothing from Jagileka in watching 2 seasons of him in the reserves and youth to suggest he would make an England player. One might just surprise us.

Very true Deadbat 18 year old can go either way but to write Reed & DCL and others off is stupid.Yesterday was always going to be a battle that's Millwall
and obviously Adkins went for experience leaving the kids on the bench .with hindsight you can say he got it wrong as we lost anyway but I can understand why he did what he did.Being physically intimidated is not ideal at there stage of development,I think one or two will be back for the Crewe
game and I look forward with anticipation to that.

 

[Deadbat]

Very true Deadbat 18 year old can go either way but to write Reed & DCL and others off is stupid.Yesterday was always going to be a battle that's Millwall
and obviously Adkins went for experience leaving the kids on the bench .with hindsight you can say he got it wrong as we lost anyway but I can understand why he did what he did.Being physically intimidated is not ideal at there stage of development,I think one or two will be back for the Crewe
game and I look forward with anticipation to that.

I do not think I am writing them off but anyone who questions whether they will make it have good reason. Neither player looks close to being anywhere near a regular in a mid table third tier side. Reed has barely played this season but noone has wanted to take him on loan it would seem. Calvert Lewin scored a few goals at Northampton but was a sub as much as he played. I am going on what my eyes tell me. They both are painfully weak physically but more than that they don't look good enough ability wise. I may be proved wrong but both have a long way to even make it as a lower league professional. Both have another couple of years on their contract but really have to make significant strides or I fear they will go same way as Kennedy, McFadzean, Ironside and many others who sadly have not been good enough. Reed has got worse since his debut not better.

I have seen nothing in either of them this season to suggest they could be even close to major contributors in a promotion winning team.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

That really puzzled me as well things were better against Oldham why change it.

Sounds to me that it was "let's pick a team to counter their strengths, rather than pick a team that are our strength" ..
Read that back and i'm sure I said the same on another forum about "Previous Nigel."

 

[blade67]

Dropping Adams because he's an arse is all well and good, but he's probably thinking fine keep dropping me. You'll get the sack playing Sammon so do what you fecking want.

Exactly. Not much of a threat if the guy brought in is incapable. In that scenario, the player gets a bollocking but told to carry on. Can't wait for the end of this season

 

[blade67]

I do not think I am writing them off but anyone who questions whether they will make it have good reason. Neither player looks close to being anywhere near a regular in a mid table third tier side. Reed has barely played this season but noone has wanted to take him on loan it would seem. Calvert Lewin scored a few goals at Northampton but was a sub as much as he played. I am going on what my eyes tell me. They both are painfully weak physically but more than that they don't look good enough ability wise. I may be proved wrong but both have a long way to even make it as a lower league professional. Both have another couple of years on their contract but really have to make significant strides or I fear they will go same way as Kennedy, McFadzean, Ironside and many others who sadly have not been good enough. Reed has got worse since his debut not better.

I have seen nothing in either of them this season to suggest they could be even close to major contributors in a promotion winning team.

Interesting. I quite rate Reed as a prospect because I see good form one week followed by a schoolboy performance the next which is exactly what I'd expect t from a light weight youth prospect.

As regards DCL not seen anything from him yet. Early early days though.

Utb

 

[robbiez666]

I'm guessing he decided to protect the youngsters. It was a gamble which didn't pay off obviously, but he has limited options.

Let's see what happens against Crewe.

 

[finlaytheblade]

I do not think I am writing them off but anyone who questions whether they will make it have good reason. Neither player looks close to being anywhere near a regular in a mid table third tier side. Reed has barely played this season but noone has wanted to take him on loan it would seem. Calvert Lewin scored a few goals at Northampton but was a sub as much as he played. I am going on what my eyes tell me. They both are painfully weak physically but more than that they don't look good enough ability wise. I may be proved wrong but both have a long way to even make it as a lower league professional. Both have another couple of years on their contract but really have to make significant strides or I fear they will go same way as Kennedy, McFadzean, Ironside and many others who sadly have not been good enough. Reed has got worse since his debut not better.

I have seen nothing in either of them this season to suggest they could be even close to major contributors in a promotion winning team.

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Accept what you say Deadbat, you mentioned jags and he needed time to find his feet and strength was never his problem. Reed & Dcl are not as physically advanced as jags was they need time to fill out and as with jags introduced gradually that is the right way to get them up to speed. Some young players hit the ground running and obviously command a shirt we don't have any of those so patience is the name of the game,that's how Adkins is doing it.Having said all that there's no guarantee any will make it but too much exposure can ruin some young players.We have a number of young
players coming through as the 21s results suggest, but the gap between that league and 1St team football is massive.But as a regular watcher of 21s there are some real good lads in there. We currently have a kid in goal Ramsdale ( 17 yrs old) who is outstanding keep your eye on him could be the best since hodgy and that is some accolade.going to be interesting how many make it but
there's more quality in that group
than Maguires youth team which made the final. The future could be bright but there's no guarantee.