Adkins interview

[sheffielder]

I suspect not all the money is available this window, some will be spent in January.

He won't get many out this window either, mainly because the ones we want to get out have no value.

Once players are fit again, he can move the surplus out in January.

We have to trust him to get the balance right quickly as Clough left an unbalanced, bloated squad which just wasn't good enough.

I think he will try and get as many players as he can out before August, and expect more to happen towards the end of the month. Looking at pre-season and the games so far he is quickly finding a nucleus of players he likes and trust, whether we like them or not. JCR, Collins, McEverley and Baxter spring to mind as players you thought might not make it. If the rumours are true that Coutts is on his way to Derby, I think anyone not training with the first team (injured cough) will be on their way out. Higdon wasn't on the bench yesterday, Cuvellier, Alcock and Flynn lead the candidates. I can see further loans for Long, McGahey, McFadzean and Diego.

Nobody wants a squad this big.

 

[Gavlar]

Not our best player never was never could be just dont get the hype about him. Good yes, best not a chance! 21 goals in 112 games for a number 9 says it all to me!

Well he wore no 9 but is a left winger, that's not a bad goal return, plus all the assists for me.

Go on then, who would you say is our best player?

 

[Worksop II]

From what I can gleen from what has been said

Murphy sold for "undisclosed"

Jimbo has said the Manager will have 100% of that

Adkins has "undisclosed" for strengthening



Football Finance 2015 by J Phipps

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Not got everything but this is a lot of it:

• Starts with a grumble - He wants us to play better
• Che is a raw talent, needs to develop fitness and understanding
• Praise for back four
• Size Matters...at dead balls
• Wants more control of the game
• Need different goalscoring threats, and we've got that
• It's very early days - we are a work in progress (eg need control of the game as mentioned above)
• Murphy - turned down offers for a month, he trained with the team on Thursday, disappointed, but it's football
• More Players In? - Dead bat

Good interview again. Buchan/Adkins.

Good interview , and take on board it was directly after the match .

Indeed we all know we are work in progress , and i have no doubt further plyers will be coming in and out.

To move this club forward , failure cannot be a word in Adkins vocabulary . He may have played a dead bat , when asked the question , about more players in , all of us would have done exactly the same , if we were in his shoes.

This result was more than 3 points , its brought back some credability to the manager and players.

UTB

 

[stringjunior]

Cutting our cloth.

I'm not entirely sure why this phrase is almost always deemed to be negative. It can just as easily mean we have loads of cash and will need a bloody big cloth.

 

[sheffielder]

I think he will try and get as many players as he can out before August, and expect more to happen towards the end of the month. Looking at pre-season and the games so far he is quickly finding a nucleus of players he likes and trust, whether we like them or not. JCR, Collins, McEverley and Baxter spring to mind as players you thought might not make it. If the rumours are true that Coutts is on his way to Derby, I think anyone not training with the first team (injured cough) will be on their way out. Higdon wasn't on the bench yesterday, Cuvellier, Alcock and Flynn lead the candidates. I can see further loans for Long, McGahey, McFadzean and Diego.

Nobody wants a squad this big.

Coutts to Cardiff *

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I think he will try and get as many players as he can out before August, and expect more to happen towards the end of the month. Looking at pre-season and the games so far he is quickly finding a nucleus of players he likes and trust, whether we like them or not. JCR, Collins, McEverley and Baxter spring to mind as players you thought might not make it. If the rumours are true that Coutts is on his way to Derby, I think anyone not training with the first team (injured cough) will be on their way out. Higdon wasn't on the bench yesterday, Cuvellier, Alcock and Flynn lead the candidates. I can see further loans for Long, McGahey, McFadzean and Diego.

Nobody wants a squad this big.

Based on a conversation in the car park yesterday that last line might be more true than you think ;-)

 

[HolmesfieldBlade]

Adkins obviously didn't know weather the money would be re-invested so spouted a generic answer to cover his arse, basically. I wouldn't worry about that too much.

 

[Bladesway]

As a few have mentioned, i'm glad Adkins has thought this one through.

He did exactly the right thing, he emphasised we are in the market for players without foolishly stating how much we have to play around with. Credit to him.

Agree. Think its easy to over analyse every little thing said. Only by the close of the transfer window will we really know.

 

[sheffielder]

Based on a conversation in the car park yesterday that last line might be more true than you think ;-)

Unfortunately we are going to have to take a little hit on getting many out. We won't get much of a fee for the likes of Coutts, Alcock, Harris, McGahey eg however will be getting them off the wage bill, as will sending youngsters out on loan. If we could get 10 out by either method, you're looking at saving about 20k minimum per week.

 

[boo radley]

Cutting our cloth.

I'm not entirely sure why this phrase is almost always deemed to be negative. It can just as easily mean we have loads of cash and will need a bloody big cloth.

Good point but I gave you a like for your picture. I particularly like the one against Spurs.

 

[sheffielder]

Didn't Derby raise their asking price for Freeman or someone last summer after Hull released the Transfer fee for Maguire which was meant to be private? I swear something like that happened.

I think the Freeman fiasco happened because Forest were due an add on from any sale. I believe he ended up a free and the 'fee' went on Coutts. Could be wrong and often am though

 

[stringjunior]

Good point but I gave you a like for your picture. I particularly like the one against Spurs.

You've lost me.....

 

[BeatleBlade]

I think the Freeman fiasco happened because Forest were due an add on from any sale. I believe he ended up a free and the 'fee' went on Coutts. Could be wrong and often am though

Haha, is it us or Derby who wanted them to get nothing? Very sneaky haha

 

[60Williams]

Well he wore no 9 but is a left winger, that's not a bad goal return, plus all the assists for me.
Go on then, who would you say is our best player?

Best player last season For me Bash, even Mcnulty with less appearances scored more goals Done was better so was Flynn but thats just my opinion!

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Cutting our cloth.

I'm not entirely sure why this phrase is almost always deemed to be negative. It can just as easily mean we have loads of cash and will need a bloody big cloth.

Exactly!!

This cut our cloth statement is an ink blot test. How you see it says more about you than what was actually said:
If you're a misery-guts then our cloth is an urchin's rags, if you're a blissfully happy-clapper then our cloth is a Technicolour Dreamcoat.

UTMB

 

[secretchief]

Exactly!!

This cut our cloth statement is an ink blot test. How you see it says more about you than what was actually said:
If you're a misery-guts then our cloth is an urchin's rags, if you're a blissfully happy-clapper then our cloth is a Technicolour Dreamcoat.

UTMB

This is not correct.

It only actually makes sense if the amount of cloth available is less than ideal and therefore impinges upon the quality/size of coat you can make.

The way you are interpreting it is meaningless. There is no necessity for anyone to say 'we have an unspecified amount of cloth, so the coat will be in some proportion to that unspecified amount'.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

This is not correct.

It only actually makes sense if the amount of cloth available is less than ideal and therefore impinges upon the quality/size of coat you can make.

The way you are interpreting it is meaningless. There is no necessity for anyone to say 'we have an unspecified amount of cloth, so the coat will be in some proportion to that unspecified amount'.

I disagree with this in about 20 different ways.

Like I said it's an ink blot test. The statement has no intrinsic value - the reactions contain the information.

Do you see

a) a bat
b) a group of blokes sitting in a smoke-filled room conspiring to sell the Blades' best players and trouser the profits

 

[secretchief]

I disagree with this in about 20 different ways.

Like I said it's an ink blot test. The statement has no intrinsic value - the reactions contain the information.

Do you see

a) a bat
b) a group of blokes sitting in a smoke-filled room conspiring to sell the Blades' best players and trouser the profits

In the context of this discussion, that is neither - it's an ink blot.

I just explained to you why this isn't an 'ink blot' phrase. You ignored them. Just because you are using it to make a point about something else doesn't mean the rest of us are similarly befuddled.

For you to be right, there would have to be examples of people using this phrase as a prelude to major expenditure. There aren't. It refers to adapting to straightened economic circumstances.

 

[Pinchy]

I've listened again to the interview. There was absolutely no suggestion that there is no money to spend. None whatsoever. Nigel spoke specifically of the need for further recruitment.

The truth is there is money to spend on new players and there will be players in before the end of the window. No question about it. Come back in a couple of weeks and tell me I'm wrong...

 

[Yewsman]

How does this follow? We didn't want to sell him therefore the money must be made available?

The club have said the money will be made available, but I don't get the logic in the statement quoted.

Anyway...



How on Earth was he suggesting otherwise? We do have to cut our cloth accordingly. Everyone does. Is there a team that doesn't? We have a huge squad and we have added to it. This is not sustainable.

As it stands we've got a few quid in for Murph; we'll be spending it on "the right players, not just any players". Sounds good to me.

UTMB

I think we may have already spent the money from the Murphy transfer. We've signed Billy reportedly for £500k plus he's presumably on big wages, and we've got Sammon and Edgar both presumably on Championship wages on loan but reportedly we are paying all the wages. We've also signed Woolford who again is presumably on something approaching championship wages. By the end of the season that will have used up the Murphy fee. Having watched Adams perform on Saturday I think Brighton have bought the wrong player! If he continues like he did I don't think we will miss Murphy although I am sorry to see him go.

The defence looked much better - Collo played well and Edgar looks a really good signing. Attacking looked good. The problem was midfield. Hope fully Nigel will go onto sort that.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I just explained to you why this isn't an 'ink blot' phrase. You ignored them.

Thank you for sharing with me the contents of your giant intellect. If I may though, Your Cleverness, I'll just point out that:

• your view of what constitutes an explanation and mine differ
• Sentence 2 does not agree with sentence 1
• (Incidentally) I pointed out that I disagreed in about 20 different ways - that's disagreement which is different from ignoring

It refers to adapting to straightened economic circumstances.

straightened -> straitened

For various reasons I'm not going to respond further.

Have fun

 

[Gavlar]

Best player last season For me Bash, even Mcnulty with less appearances scored more goals Done was better so was Flynn but thats just my opinion!

Flynn was better? Really? Wow!!!

McNulty is a striker, Murphy is a winger, of course McNulty should score more.

I like Bash and Done, but theres no way they are a patch on Murphy. But it's all about opinions tho of course mate!

 

[secretchief]

Thank you for sharing with me the contents of your giant intellect. If I may though, Your Cleverness, I'll just point out that:

• your view of what constitutes an explanation and mine differ
• Sentence 2 does not agree with sentence 1
• (Incidentally) I pointed out that I disagreed in about 20 different ways - that's disagreement which is different from ignoring

straightened -> straitened

For various reasons I'm not going to respond further.

Have fun

Pointing out those mistakes, none of which alter the substance of what I said, does not change the fact that the meaning of the phrase 'cut our cloth' means living within one's means.

 

[60Williams]

Flynn was better? Really? Wow!!!

McNulty is a striker, Murphy is a winger, of course McNulty should score more.

I like Bash and Done, but theres no way they are a patch on Murphy. But it's all about opinions tho of course mate!

It may have been neg Nigel's fault in the way he was played last season. For a true winger his crosses were wowful, he cut inside to much for me instead of getting to the touchline and firing the ball across the box, maybe i'm old but i like a winger to get chalk on his boot and be able to deliver a cross, cutting inside is something that works now and again but if its done 90% the time the defenders work it out and nullify it.Getting past the full back and banning in a cross is much harder to defend and it occupies the full back stopping him venturing forward. Again in my opinion but that's what makes the game we love so interesting.
I think Adams may suffer from this once the opposition's analysts get enough info on him, i hope not, I hope he has more about him than that! As i said Murf was a really good player on his day but those day were getting further and further apart, I think the step up may suit him, i hope the lad does well for whoever he plays for he certainly has the skill, just didn't show it often enough for me. but I can see why some liked what he did, just not my sort of player.

 

[BushBlade]

Personally, I think you can only benefit from crosses when you're counter attacking with pace. Once defenders are set it's much harder to beat them, unless you've got someone who's big and strong and really knows how to use it, like Toure doing Ivanovic yesterday.
Most goals from crosses tend to be more like Lukaku's on Saturday.
Be interesting to see how Murphy plays when surrounded by better players.

 

[Pinchy]

Personally, I think you can only benefit from crosses when you're counter attacking with pace. Once defenders are set it's much harder to beat them, unless you've got someone who's big and strong and really knows how to use it, like Toure doing Ivanovic yesterday.
Most goals from crosses tend to be more like Lukaku's on Saturday.
Be interesting to see how Murphy plays when surrounded by better players.

.... Including the opposition!

He'll probably stop in his tracks and cut back inside rather than get to the line....

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Didn't Derby raise their asking price for Freeman or someone last summer after Hull released the Transfer fee for Maguire which was meant to be private? I swear something like that happened.

Think it was reported Freeman had upped his wage demands. Freeman tells a different tale

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/shef...delighted-to-finally-become-a-blade-1-7079363

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Personally, I think you can only benefit from crosses when you're counter attacking with pace. Once defenders are set it's much harder to beat them, unless you've got someone who's big and strong and really knows how to use it, like Toure doing Ivanovic yesterday.
Most goals from crosses tend to be more like Lukaku's on Saturday.
Be interesting to see how Murphy plays when surrounded by better players.

John Barnes and Pat Nevin were discussing this a.couple of days ago on Radio 5. Don't recall the details but they agreed getting to the byline was old school, and not as effective or desirable as it used to be. Of course.to be really effective you have to be able to go outside or inside, it's just that cutting inside is a much bigger part of the game than it used to be.

 

[BushBlade]

.... Including the opposition!

He'll probably stop in his tracks and cut back inside rather than get to the line....

And play a perfect pass to a striker making an intelligent run.
Wonder what influence COG has had in this deal?