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kennyblade said:
sharp and lavery are the only 2 out of 5 strikers who could possibly score when we get to the chanpionship and even thats not a gimme so yes we do need another striker if not now certainly in the summer my own preference would be matty taylor but got a feeling if one does come in it will be bogle at grimsby but he too is only a league 1 or 2 striker so maybe we need 2 in
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Surely wait until the summer and have the opportunity to pick up a better player?
 

I like the look of Bogle.

Not because I think he's the next Brian Deane....or going to be a regular premier league player. But because he is different to anything else we have.
Clarke was supposed to be that player, but at the moment he's struggling to get a run of games and struggling for fitness. So out of all the names banded about, Bogle would be my choice.

Just a matter of whether we can afford his fee, and if we can see off bids from established championship sides....IMHO of course.

Oh...and assuming the manager is actually interested in the first place.
 
Blade58 said:
Star this morning reckons CW could still be after 2 players

If Riley is one, what is the position of the other?
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Well that's a bit worrying.
If the rumour is true and we are signing a striker, we definitely need a defender now Brown has gone.
So that would be the 2.
But in my view we definitely need at least 1 winger/wide player.
Unless we have already signed Riley and it's him plus 2 more.
 
Broomhall Blade said:
Well that's a bit worrying.
If the rumour is true and we are signing a striker, we definitely need a defender now Brown has gone.
So that would be the 2.
But in my view we definitely need at least 1 winger/wide player.
Unless we have already signed Riley and it's him plus 2 more.
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I think we need width if only to offer a change of plan.
But for the way we play at the moment, and has worked so well for us a winger would only be a back up plan.
So in that sense, this kid Riley might be the answer following the addition of Caruthers.
Duffy can also play wide, so with the addition of these two it allows us the flexibility all over the pitch to cover several options.
That's one of the reasons Bash is so popular with managers.
 
I think we'll still be after 3 players, 2 after Riley. I'd even say I'd be a bit surprised if we don't sign another 3. I think Wilder will want to strengthen at one end of the pitch - CB or CF - after signing Riley and a winger. And I think we'll be willing to spend more than usual.

As for the possible strikers, Bogle just has too much Championship interest, so I'd say the most likely is Lee Gregory. We've been quite strongly rumoured to be interested and it's clear that he'd want to sign for us, with him being a Blade and us being top. He has a release clause around the £1m mark but I'm not sure it can be activated until the summer. I'd still expect them to sell for around £1-1.3m.

Carruthers, Riley, Elliott Bennett and Lee Gregory.... that wouldn't be a bad window.
 
Grizzly blade said:
I think we need width if only to offer a change of plan.
But for the way we play at the moment, and has worked so well for us a winger would only be a back up plan.
So in that sense, this kid Riley might be the answer following the addition of Caruthers.
Duffy can also play wide, so with the addition of these two it allows us the flexibility all over the pitch to cover several options.
That's one of the reasons Bash is so popular with managers.
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I still think we need a proper winger if only has you have said to come on and give offer something different.
I think we rely on Duffy to much, I also think teams have cottoned on to this and are doubling up on him.
Riley seems more classed as a defender type player. That's only from reading the Man utd comments about him.
Carruthers I thought was a more central player but again I'm not 100% sure.
 
Hasn't Tevez been signed by Chengdu Blades or summat!?!??

Just sayin' like....
 
Priority area of the pitch where reinforcements are required.

If Sharp is out for any time, I couldn't honestly say any of the other available options could cut it.

UTB
 
Sounds like we're "stuck with" McNulty (given there's no way round that rule of only being able to play for the 2 clubs in one season).

And, if what CW says about needing 5 strikers here (& it being a mistake to let McNulty go on loan in the first place) as he has recently, then it seems the only way we'll get a striker in is by shipping Clarke or Done out. Don't know if that's very likely really.
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Sounds like we're "stuck with" McNulty (given there's no way round that rule of only being able to play for the 2 clubs in one season).

And, if what CW says about needing 5 strikers here (& it being a mistake to let McNulty go on loan in the first place) as he has recently, then it seems the only way we'll get a striker in is by shipping Clarke or Done out. Don't know if that's very likely really.
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The FIFA rule is not more than 3 clubs in a season including loans.

Andy Butler played for us, Walsall and Doncaster in 14/15.

If the opportunity is right we can still offload McNulty if he isn't needed.
 
But I really hope it is, we can't afford to be carrying players that don't offer enough to the squad, we need goals, if your job is to provide them and you can't, then your not doing your job. simples.
To replace these 2 would be ideal, aslong as the replacements are suitable to play our style and with Billy.
Lee gregory would be a smart choice, I think next to sharp, 2 blades in attack, should work well!
 
UnitedBlade said:
The FIFA rule is not more than 3 clubs in a season including loans.

Andy Butler played for us, Walsall and Doncaster in 14/15.

If the opportunity is right we can still offload McNulty if he isn't needed.
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Not sure that's the case, mate. Didn't we sign Butler before the season started?

Everything I've read suggests you can have 3 clubs in a season, but only play for two.
 
UnitedBlade said:
The FIFA rule is not more than 3 clubs in a season including loans.

Andy Butler played for us, Walsall and Doncaster in 14/15.

If the opportunity is right we can still offload McNulty if he isn't needed.
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Andy Butler did not play a competitive match for United in 14/15. As mentioned before you can sign for three clubs in a season but you can only play competitively for 2.
 

Alfreton14Blade said:
Not sure that's the case, mate. Didn't we sign Butler before the season started?

Everything I've read suggests you can have 3 clubs in a season, but only play for two.
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We did, but he went back to Walsall on loan before moving onto Donny, But did he play competitively for us? Or did the JPT not count?
 
UnitedBlade said:
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=33642&season_id=144
Played against Mansfield and scored then we loaned him to Walsall and sold him to Doncaster.
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rompodebailey said:
We did, but he went back to Walsall on loan before moving onto Donny, But did he play competitively for us? Or did the JPT not count?
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Yeah, you're right - my mistake. I can only imagine then it was something like as described in this article about Nicky Shorey, with the loan to Walsall classed as an emergency loan - a loan category that's been abolished this season (in large part to bring us into line with FIFA rules).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ky-Shorey-FIFA-probe-playing-club-season.html
 
UnitedBlade said:
Eh ? He scored against Mansfield in the League Cup !
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Apologies he did play in the cup, can only think then that cup matches don't count. I'm only going on the rules that I have read:

Article 5.3 of Fifa's regulations on the status and transfer of players states: “Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs.”
 
Danny_Boy said:
Apologies he did play in the cup, can only think then that cup matches don't count. I'm only going on the rules that I have read:

Article 5.3 of Fifa's regulations on the status and transfer of players states: “Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs.”
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That must be out of date, this is what the Sports Legal position is.

http://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/footballers-transfer-in-season/

There is absolutely no doubt United would have been castigated, deducted points and pilloried in Fatty Samuels column if we'd broken the rules !
 
UnitedBlade said:
That must be out of date, this is what the Sports Legal position is.

http://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/footballers-transfer-in-season/

There is absolutely no doubt United would have been castigated, deducted points and pilloried in Fatty Samuels column if we'd broken the rules !
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I suspect that (undated) legal advice is itself very old - dating from the time that emergency loans still existed prior to this season. One of the questions it answers is: "What effect will the creation of transfer windows have ...?" I don't know how long ago it was that transfer windows were brought in, but it was a good few years ago.

As I say, my hunch is that the Butler situation was legit (within the English set-up at the time), in that the Walsall move was likely classed as an emergency loan.
 
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UnitedBlade said:
That must be out of date, this is what the Sports Legal position is.

http://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/footballers-transfer-in-season/

There is absolutely no doubt United would have been castigated, deducted points and pilloried in Fatty Samuels column if we'd broken the rules !
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I think it's as Alfreton says, Walsall signed Butler under an emergency loan which back then did not count but these days emergency loans don't exist.

In fact after researching that is exactly what happened: http://www.expressandstar.com/sport...sall-alert-as-andy-butler-is-put-up-for-loan/

My interpretation of what I've read is that a player may sign for three clubs but can only play competitively for two. Suppose time will tell but my guess is McNulty is going nowhere this season.
 
Danny_Boy said:
I think it's as Alfreton says, Walsall signed Butler under an emergency loan which back then did not count but these days emergency loans don't exist.

In fact after researching that is exactly what happened: http://www.expressandstar.com/sport...sall-alert-as-andy-butler-is-put-up-for-loan/

My interpretation of what I've read is that a player may sign for three clubs but can only play competitively for two. Suppose time will tell but my guess is McNulty is going nowhere this season.
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Well if FIFA doesn't recognise emergency loans in its regulations and that was the Butler get-out then we are stuck with NcNulty. The only other option would be him going back to Bradford but they won't want him now they've signed Jones.

It's a ridiculous clause. If it's only 2 clubs why allow 3 registrations ?

Wilder must be extremely worried about injuries and not being able to land another striker. I can't see McNulty playing much.
 
UnitedBlade said:
Well if FIFA doesn't recognise emergency loans in its regulations and that was the Butler get-out then we are stuck with NcNulty. The only other option would be him going back to Bradford but they won't want him now they've signed Jones.

It's a ridiculous clause. If it's only 2 clubs why allow 3 registrations ?

Wilder must be extremely worried about injuries and not being able to land another striker. I can't see McNulty playing much.
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I wouldn't write McNulty off yet, just look at freeman and coutts
 
UnitedBlade said:
Well if FIFA doesn't recognise emergency loans in its regulations and that was the Butler get-out then we are stuck with NcNulty. The only other option would be him going back to Bradford but they won't want him now they've signed Jones.

It's a ridiculous clause. If it's only 2 clubs why allow 3 registrations ?

Wilder must be extremely worried about injuries and not being able to land another striker. I can't see McNulty playing much.
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I don't think Bradford have been that impressed with him either to be fair. Unless it's Clarke we are planning to offload for someone new.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think we need a quality striker before the window closes. It's a risk to rely on Sharp staying fit and firing. Lavery, although promising, isn't up to goal scoring speed yet. And Clarke, although providing a decent option off the bench, doesn't seem to be fit to lead a promotion charge. That leaves Done and McNulty, neither of whom possess the ability to grab us the goals we'd need to go up automatically. Now is the perfect time for the board to really back Wilder and push the boat out for a quality striker. Doing so would greatly improve our chances of promotion this season
 
Ldn_Rd_Blades said:
I wouldn't write McNulty off yet, just look at freeman and coutts
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He's a decent finisher at times but he doesn't have the fitness and work ethic I like to see, or more importantly Wilder likes to see.

But you're right if anyone can inspire better application it's Wilder.

Maybe impact sub as defences tire. United will certainly create more chances than Bradford do.

Hope he gets some crucial goals.
 

UnitedBlade said:
He's a decent finisher at times but he doesn't have the fitness and work ethic I like to see, or more importantly Wilder likes to see.

But you're right if anyone can inspire better application it's Wilder.

Maybe impact sub as defences tire. United will certainly create more chances than Bradford do.

Hope he gets some crucial goals.
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To be fair, when he as warming up in 2nd half against bury he looked like he has lost some timber
 
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