5 leagues of 20

[Damski]

Oi how would you like bit if after quite a thoughtout response. Someone responsed with vile abuse

 

[Damski]

It's a good idea. I think you all need to calm down with the B team stuff - No one is suggesting it, and it would be hugely unpopular with fans and clubs alike and would never pass through. 20 teams in a league is a solid idea. Fixture congestion in the English game is a legitimate problem and has been consistently given as a reason why we don't perform well at an international level, both for club and country. 20 teams in a league all of a sudden drops 8 games per team off the schedule. That's 6 weeks off the length of the season. I think the Paint Pot needs scrapping, no one worth their salt gives a monkey's bollock about it and it's high time it was dropped. The only other major European nation that has more than one domestic cup competition is France. Every other country has league and one cup. To my mind, that's the logical solution.

There is no need for lower league sides to contest 3 cups along with a taxing league program. It's actually ludicrous when you think about it - League 1 clubs will contest 49 games per season at the very least. If you get a decent cup run you're well into the mid 50s. That's a lot of games to cram into 10 months. (By my count, in our FA Cup run year a couple of seasons back we played fifty seven games, and if we were not a few points off the pace, we would have contested 60 games if we had got to the play-off final. That's madness.) Keep the FA Cup (and scrap the replays), scrap the others and that's your fixture congestion sorted in one fell swoop. Night games will still exist. They offer a practical solution to multi-competition seasons. They are not just a fancy option for atmosphere, they are genuinely needed.

You have to understand that we do it differently over here to most other countries, and that's not necessarily a good thing. I think on the whole we need to catch up with the rest of Europe. We do need less league games. We do need less cup games. We do need a winter break. This is something countless professionals within the game have been saying for years. It always strikes a chord with me when foreign managers are almost uniformly saying that English football has too many games. Plus, 100 teams in 5 leagues of 20? That's some nice symmetry you got going on there. It's a testament to the unique ubiquity of the English game that we can even consider 100 professional clubs in our league system, and it be genuinely achievable. Literally no other country could pull it off. We can. So we should.

 

[ken shabby]

It`s just a nice excuse to drop the number of games so that the premier league little luvvies can have a winter break,... because we all would play less games there`d be no reason to not go alongside europe, the space would be there.

Bugger europe, the christmas and new year games are a marvelous British tradition... if i can`t go to a boxing day game, pissed on mum`s Trifle, full to brim with ham, turkey, apple sauce and mince pies, then i`ll absolutely know it`s the end of the footballing world as we know it.

fuck `em

 

[Pollingtonblade]

It's a good idea. I think you all need to calm down with the B team stuff - No one is suggesting it, and it would be hugely unpopular with fans and clubs alike and would never pass through. 20 teams in a league is a solid idea. Fixture congestion in the English game is a legitimate problem and has been consistently given as a reason why we don't perform well at an international level, both for club and country. 20 teams in a league all of a sudden drops 8 games per team off the schedule. That's 6 weeks off the length of the season. I think the Paint Pot needs scrapping, no one worth their salt gives a monkey's bollock about it and it's high time it was dropped. The only other major European nation that has more than one domestic cup competition is France. Every other country has league and one cup. To my mind, that's the logical solution.

There is no need for lower league sides to contest 3 cups along with a taxing league program. It's actually ludicrous when you think about it - League 1 clubs will contest 49 games per season at the very least. If you get a decent cup run you're well into the mid 50s. That's a lot of games to cram into 10 months. (By my count, in our FA Cup run year a couple of seasons back we played fifty seven games, and if we were not a few points off the pace, we would have contested 60 games if we had got to the play-off final. That's madness.) Keep the FA Cup (and scrap the replays), scrap the others and that's your fixture congestion sorted in one fell swoop. Night games will still exist. They offer a practical solution to multi-competition seasons. They are not just a fancy option for atmosphere, they are genuinely needed.

You have to understand that we do it differently over here to most other countries, and that's not necessarily a good thing. I think on the whole we need to catch up with the rest of Europe. We do need less league games. We do need less cup games. We do need a winter break. This is something countless professionals within the game have been saying for years. It always strikes a chord with me when foreign managers are almost uniformly saying that English football has too many games. Plus, 100 teams in 5 leagues of 20? That's some nice symmetry you got going on there. It's a testament to the unique ubiquity of the English game that we can even consider 100 professional clubs in our league system, and it be genuinely achievable. Literally no other country could pull it off. We can. So we should.

We played over 60 games in season 88/89 and in 02/03 and they were 2 of my favourite ever seasons.

 

[Treeton Blade]

being proposed.

At least that means we'll never had been in the bottom league

It would make the JPT much harder to win, so it`s a no from me

 

[YES Blade]

We played over 60 games in season 88/89 and in 02/03 and they were 2 of my favourite ever seasons.

Because we were successful, not the amount of games! Drop the league matches by 8 those seasons and you would have still enjoyed it just as much.

 

[Bladesway]

How many on here want SUFC in the PL?

Not me either. But I thought the Premier League B team bollocks had been laughed out of town a while back. If they do it and get it though I would be amazed.

 

[S60 unitedite]

It`s just a nice excuse to drop the number of games so that the premier league little luvvies can have a winter break,... because we all would play less games there`d be no reason to not go alongside europe, the space would be there.

Bugger europe, the christmas and new year games are a marvelous British tradition... if i can`t go to a boxing day game, pissed on mum`s Trifle, full to brim with ham, turkey, apple sauce and mince pies, then i`ll absolutely know it`s the end of the footballing world as we know it.

fuck `em

No mention of the premier league dropping their numbers. It would only take cutting it to 18 and the precious souls could have a nice break to go and earn money around the world.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

We do need a winter break. This is something countless professionals within the game have been saying for years.

We've had a season long break for the last five years, not done us much good.

 

[SwissBlade]

How many on here want SUFC in the PL?

Nope

 

[cahill]

I think they should regionalise the bottom two divisions, If it's to save clubs and fans money why not ?. What's the point in Carlisle fans travelling to Exeter or Plymouth, it would save clubs and fans travel costs etc. You could have a North and South league like they used to back in the 1950s. This would mean bigger away followings, hence more gate money.

You know it makes sense

 

[cahill]

Not me either. But I thought the Premier League B team bollocks had been laughed out of town a while back. If they do it and get it though I would be amazed.

That idea's dead in the water I believe

 

[BushBlade]

I can understand the point in expanding the league as there are more professional clubs than there used to be. Lots of former semi-pro clubs have grown to be big enough to turn pro, like Stevenage, Morecambe etc.

The rest, I'm not so sure about

 

[Slim Man]

That idea's dead in the water I believe

They'll do whatever they can to resurrect it

 

[Sheffsteel]

I agree that there will be an underlying motive for the reorganisation which could be

1: Winter break
2: B teams from PL clubs entering or
3: Celtic and Rangers joining the new 5th tier.
4: Experts think the real reason is to prevent the PL forming a new PL2 league (invitation only) with no relegation and promotions from PL2 to the Football League.

The main issue that would need addressing is the reduction of income due to losing gate receipts from 4 home matches. So I can't see enough football clubs voting for it without some sweeteners.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

... if i can`t go to a boxing day game, pissed on mum`s Trifle, full to brim with ham, turkey, apple sauce and mince pies, then i`ll absolutely know it`s the end of the footballing world as we know it.

If I ever come round yours for Christmas Kenners, remind me to pass on the pissed on trifle will you please mate? I dread to think what the yule log tastes of!!

 

[carthesis]

I think the Paint Pot needs scrapping, no one worth their salt gives a monkey's bollock about it and it's high time it was dropped. The only other major European nation that has more than one domestic cup competition is France. Every other country has league and one cup. To my mind, that's the logical solution.

There is no need for lower league sides to contest 3 cups along with a taxing league program. It's actually ludicrous when you think about it - League 1 clubs will contest 49 games per season at the very least. If you get a decent cup run you're well into the mid 50s. That's a lot of games to cram into 10 months. (By my count, in our FA Cup run year a couple of seasons back we played fifty seven games, and if we were not a few points off the pace, we would have contested 60 games if we had got to the play-off final. That's madness.) Keep the FA Cup, scrap the others and that's your fixture congestion sorted in one fell swoop. Night games will still exist. They offer a practical solution to multi-competition seasons. They are not just a fancy option for atmosphere, they are genuinely needed.

You have to understand that we do it differently over here to most other countries, and that's not necessarily a good thing. I think on the whole we need to catch up with the rest of Europe. We do need less league games. We do need less cup games. We do need a winter break. This is something countless professionals within the game have been saying for years. It always strikes a chord with me when foreign managers are almost uniformly saying that English football has too many games. Plus, 100 teams in 5 leagues of 20? That's some nice symmetry you got going on there. It's a testament to the unique ubiquity of the English game that we can even consider 100 professional clubs in our league system, and it be genuinely achievable. Literally no other country could pull it off. We can. So we should.

I mostly agree with you. The Paint Pot and the Worthless Cup need fucking off ASAP.

And i think you're right about we should celebrate the fact that we're the only country that could have 100 professional teams in league competition without the bottom 50 teams or so just being a fucking joke. Don't like 5x20 as an option though. What's wrong with 4x25? Other than the fact the PL would never ever go for it because it means they'd have to share the TV money with a few more teams. Letting the PL form independently of the FA just so they could get a better telly deal was perhaps the biggest mistake the game has ever made.

 

[Booker4]

Good luck with that when the clubs need to pay wages out of 38 games instead of 46.

If a club needs a fan to fork out £28 for a ticket then expect him to cough up £34 instead, still up for it?

I'm saying that we should keep the 46 game season mate, not scrap it. The point I made over ticket prices is that the FA the Premier League and the Football League should be doing more to encourage or enforce cheaper tickets, but instead they'e focused on harebrained schemes like the one proposed yesterday.

 

[Slim Man]

We'd still have games in midweek due to postponements, cup runs etc.

The only thing that puts me off is the thought of Rangers/Celtic and Prem B teams being involved.
It's a no from me until both of these ideas have cold water thrown on them.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

We'd still have games in midweek due to cup runs
.

Bloody clapper

 

[forever_blade]

With it not coming into place till 2019/20 if agreed upon, there's still time for us to be the inaugural members of that league...

Full details: http://mobile.football-league.co.uk//news/article/2016/a-whole-game-solution-3119809.aspx

Well it would have to be the year we would have been promoted

Maybe abit early for our promotion season 2018/19.
We'll have just missed out on promotion after a season of false hope where Jack Lester's took over as Gaffer with Chief Wayne Allison as his assistant. Billy Sharp will still be knocking about but he's being carried by the rejuvenated & guilt-free Chedwyn Evans who stood on a record 40 goals with three games left to play. We still mathematically can be caught but it'll need a huge 10+ goal difference to be overswung by Cambridge United who would need to gain maximum points from all their remaining fixtures & rely on us losing all our remaining games. Disaster strikes on the eve of our third to final fixture as the courts have ordered a third & final re-trial on the Ched Evans case where new evidence leads to him being sent down again.
We brought James & Craig Beattie back out retirement for one last push but it's all in vain as Craig gets injured in the warm-up & James is sent off after 2 minutes of the final day fixture.
We lose our remaining games & Nigel Adkins Cambridge United bounce over us to promotion

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I'd be all in favour regionalising everything below the championship. Might make it a bit easier for us to get promoted then.