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I mean i'm all for incoming players because we definitely need some fresh players, but for the financial stability of the club and also the performance on the pitch I would like to see at least 3 players leave as well. Norwood, Freeman, Mousett should be on our priority list to ship out while they still have some value.
 

Roygbiv said:
It is bizarre. You'd think we'd be wrapping them up in cotton wool if we were desperate to sell them. I just can't think of a relegated team who haven't lost players after coming down. I thought Berge and Ramsdale would have been long gone by now and that money would have been reinvested into building a new side.
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I don’t think Berge will go, we want top money for him and he’s not proved he’s worth that. We see small glimpses of quality, when paying £35m / £40m clubs will want to see more than that.

Ramsdale on the other hand I do think will go, but as you said in one of your earlier posts we need to replace him immediately and the longer this goes on the more risk we don’t have time
 
Celi mentioned in those 5! We’re desperate for a ‘locksmith’ and he looks just the ticket.
 
Roygbiv said:
I can't think of a club who have gone down recently and sold nobody. Watford and Norwich raised about £40m and invested less than half of it. It's really quite odd that we haven't sold a single player.

If we sell one of the big money guys we will sign a few permanently is my guess. If we don't it will be loans. Purely just a guess though
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Take your point Roy , but really it's usually the player who wants to go and the release figure is reached! .jags to toffee's a good example.
Still bringing in a couple of loans shouldnt beyond us should it.
Really the message given out by not doing any business sends out the signal we are skint and clubs will use that to sell us short of the real value.
If this is the position as I said earlier the fans will wonder where has all the money gone . United world? If so there is trouble ahead.
I dont think this scenario is true if we are really after bouncing back with SJ surely !!
 
Roygbiv said:
I can't think of a club who have gone down recently and sold nobody. Watford and Norwich raised about £40m and invested less than half of it. It's really quite odd that we haven't sold a single player.

If we sell one of the big money guys we will sign a few permanently is my guess. If we don't it will be loans. Purely just a guess though
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Certainly strange for a relegated team to not sell any players but I feel we are in a bit of a unique position for a relegated side. Normally a relegated side will have a couple of standout players from the prem season that will be snapped straight back up (e.g Godfrey/Lewis at Norwich). After last years poor performance we only really had 2 standouts, Didzy (age/injury history) and Ramsdale in the second half. Our high asking price for Ramsdale is fully understandable due to contract length, age, potential, English etc. It’s also fully understandable that 30+mill for a keeper who was incredible for the second half of the season but highly suspect in the first half is going to put off the majority of interest. Sander is of course the other obvious asset we have to sell but again, although his quality is clearly a step above and he surely will go on to play for a top club in the premier league eventually, he still hasn’t shown consistently high performance week in week out and with his injury, there are still enough question marks to put off anyone paying the 35mill that it looks like it will take to get him.

Our standout players from the first year in the Prem were all established Championship/L1 players. With the majority of them being poor to below average at best last season, no premier league team is going to take a chance on them and with a lot of them receiving new contracts and wage increases, no Championship sides are going to be able to afford them in the current climate and completely understandably, I can’t see any wanting to take a wage cut with many of them heading towards wrong side of their peak.

Interesting rest of the window ahead, hopefully the Prince has a couple of quid or Riyals in his back pocket ready even if we can’t sell!
 
SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
I don’t think it’s necessarily a money problem, I think it’s more of a squad size problem. We’ve got a very lop-sided squad with 3 left backs, 3 keepers, 7 strikers (8 if you include Jebbison) & only 3 centre halves.

Wouldn’t be surprised if we looked to send out Lowe, Tyler Smith, one of the keepers & one more of the forwards either on loan or permanent deals.
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Not skint - squad is too big. Need to get some out. Doesn’t mean Berge and / or Ramsdale.
 
Dutch Blade said:
I mean i'm all for incoming players because we definitely need some fresh players, but for the financial stability of the club and also the performance on the pitch I would like to see at least 3 players leave as well. Norwood, Freeman, Mousett should be on our priority list to ship out while they still have some value.
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Do you really think Norwood, Freeman, Moussett have any real value,? also Moose is going to out for a while (not seen an update on his hamstring pull but it looks like a couple of months to me)
 

Think Ramsdale will go IMO. Had a hunch on Saturday when he was on his own applauding all 4 sides of the ground after the game. I reckon we’d get a better price for him compared to Berge.
 
Midland Blade said:
Certainly strange for a relegated team to not sell any players but I feel we are in a bit of a unique position for a relegated side. Normally a relegated side will have a couple of standout players from the prem season that will be snapped straight back up (e.g Godfrey/Lewis at Norwich). After last years poor performance we only really had 2 standouts, Didzy (age/injury history) and Ramsdale in the second half. Our high asking price for Ramsdale is fully understandable due to contract length, age, potential, English etc. It’s also fully understandable that 30+mill for a keeper who was incredible for the second half of the season but highly suspect in the first half is going to put off the majority of interest. Sander is of course the other obvious asset we have to sell but again, although his quality is clearly a step above and he surely will go on to play for a top club in the premier league eventually, he still hasn’t shown consistently high performance week in week out and with his injury, there are still enough question marks to put off anyone paying the 35mill that it looks like it will take to get him.

Our standout players from the first year in the Prem were all established Championship/L1 players. With the majority of them being poor to below average at best last season, no premier league team is going to take a chance on them and with a lot of them receiving new contracts and wage increases, no Championship sides are going to be able to afford them in the current climate and completely understandably, I can’t see any wanting to take a wage cut with many of them heading towards wrong side of their peak.

Interesting rest of the window ahead, hopefully the Prince has a couple of quid or Riyals in his back pocket ready even if we can’t sell!
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I find the Rammers situation a bit odd. He was already a PL keeper when we signed him and had put in some good performances for Bournemouth. I’m not sure what he’s done to make us think we can make a substantial profit on him.

Berge is slightly different as he was, in PL terms, an unknown quantity and, before his injury, he showed he could cope with that level of football. Enough for us to make a profit of close to £15m? No, probably not.

Our stance seems a little odd. If neither player is desperate to leave and we can afford to keep them, it’s spot on. Don’t let them go unless the offer is too good to turn down. But if we need to sell them to raise funds to sign players, at this point in the season, we have to question whether it’s wise to keep “bluffing” and hope that before the window closes some club will cave in and give us what we want, or to take a view that getting in new players is more important than trying to squeeze every penny out of the sales.

I think the issue is that, because PA has little of his own money available to invest, he’s having to look at financial decisions over footballing ones, in the same way that Levy has always done at Spurs. The problem is finding the balance, as the two are intrinsically linked. For example, Spurs reluctance to refresh their side properly after the CL final lead to them losing Poch and their regular CL place. This has meant they now have less income and have to replace more players. PA has to be very careful that we don’t end up the same, because Spurs can probably stay in the PL by just relying on TV money and the income generated by their stadium whereas the championship is just a money pit where it’s almost impossible to stay in it without parachute payments or financial support from the owner. If we don’t go up in the next three years, chances are we’ll be heading back to L1 and hoping we can find another Bassett/Warnock/Wilder to sort us out.
 
Apparently we are looking to offload players to provide transfer funds and improve the wage budget.
With the exception of Berge and Ramsdale Who would generate funds without significantly weakening the squad

Freeman
Lowe
Fleck
Norwood
?
 
I can't imagine anyone will pay Berge's release fee. Willock basically kept Newcastle up and he only cost £20 million for Arsenal.
 
bertieblade said:
Apparently we are looking to offload players to provide transfer funds and improve the wage budget.
With the exception of Berge and Ramsdale Who would generate funds without significantly weakening the squad

Freeman
Lowe
Fleck
Norwood
?
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My question, as usual, is who the hell wants them on the wages they are getting here?
 
bertieblade said:
Apparently we are looking to offload players to provide transfer funds and improve the wage budget.
With the exception of Berge and Ramsdale Who would generate funds without significantly weakening the squad

Freeman
Lowe
Fleck
Norwood
?
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I doubt it's just funds. Funds and wages. It's easy to forget that someone on 20k pw is pulling in a million pa. Getting shut of someone on a free still saves £1 million pa.

I wouldn't mind selling any of the following but doubt we'll get much money for anyone but George.

Baldock
Stevens
Lowe
Robinson
Norwood
Fleck
Freeman
Brewster
Burke
Mousset
Sharp
 
robbiez666 said:
I can't imagine anyone will pay Berge's release fee. Willock basically kept Newcastle up and he only cost £20 million for Arsenal.
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no me neither if either of them goes think its more likely to be rammy and dont think 30m is over the top for him
 
ancientblade said:
no me neither if either of them goes think its more likely to be rammy and dont think 30m is over the top for him
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depends really. There's no way you're going to pay that much for a back-up keeper. Villa keeper cost less than £20 million. I'm struggling to think of a club big enough to toss the money and who need a first choice keeper.
 
Max Lowe would be the first obvious one to look to offload if we have to trim numbers (rather than raise money as I don't think we would get much). Even on paper he was an utterly bonkers signing - a specialist left back behind Stevens, RND, Robinson and Osborn in the pecking order.
 
Is the video in this link a new one or old, hard to tell. Mentions at the start of the video we're hoping for transfer movement in the next few hours.

www.examinerlive.co.uk

New Carabao Cup rules and regulations for Sheffield United vs Carlisle

The Blades enter into the cup competition in round one but will be looking to progress onto the next stage against League Two opposition
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