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PeterNdlovu081 said:
They're definitely the team most likely then.

Can't see anybody doing it in League Two, it's too competitive.

If us or Leeds were to do it in the Championship then we're looking at somebody surpassing the 106 point Reading team from 2005-06.

Not gonna happen.
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It’s going to be a high bar this year given how 1-4 are far better than the rest.

It would not surprise me to see Sunderland 4th into the high 80s and Burnley, Leeds and United all registering. Points total that starts with a 9 at least.
 
Champagneblade said:
It’s going to be a high bar this year given how 1-4 are far better than the rest.

It would not surprise me to see Sunderland 4th into the high 80s and Burnley, Leeds and United all registering. Points total that starts with a 9 at least.
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I don't think the collective points total of the top four will be as high as it was last season.

There are only 13 games left.

None of the top four last season won 10 of their final 13 games.
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
I don't think the collective points total of the top four will be as high as it was last season.

There are only 13 games left.

None of the top four last season won 10 of their final 13 games.
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To get into the 90s United would need 7 wins, Leeds 6, Burnley 8 and a draw.

Sunderland similar to Burnley to get to high 80s.

But if you’re saying will anyone get 10
Wins from 13, I’d say 9 is probably the max and by one team only.

For a start United have Leeds, Burnley, Wednesday which all could be banana skins.

If anyone I’d say Leeds given they’ve put teams to the sword the most effectively.

Though they’ve twice struggled to get past Sunderland, drew with Burnley and let’s be honest, we put it on a plate when we played them.

For one we dropped a guy who had scored twice in the prior game. Too much thinking time for Wilder cost us, with the International break falling when it did. If we had been playing 4 days after Rak-Sakyi had beat Luton on his own, I doubt foremost I the managers plans would be to drop him.
 
I think personally it will be 2 from 3 now, Sunderland are effectively 3 games behind us with 13 to play and they have to play 4 of the teams chasing the playoff places away from home
 
I think 8 more wins does it.

Once you start looking at 94 points, it would be incredibly unlikely that two teams finish above you and that is assuming that it’s 8 wins and 5 defeats. That’s averaging 1.84 points per game. We’ve not averaged so few all season. Two per game gets you to 96.

Burnley would need 2.38 ppg for that. Or 10 wins, a draw and only 2 defeats or 9 wins, 4 draws and no defeats. That’s a huge ask.
 
I had a look back on Leeds’ recent examples of bottling the top two.

The 18/19 run came to an end of course with the Basham arriving game, mid March. They only won 3/8 after that game, losing 4.

Last season, from the same mid March fixture, they also then faltered, losing 4 of the 8 and drawing two.

Hopefully the trend of the last 8 games can continue. The fixtures look fairly favourable for them though.

29th March - Swansea (h)
5th April - Luton (a)
8th April - Boro (a)
12th April - Preston (h)
18th April - Oxford (a)
21st April - Stoke (h)
26th April - Bristol City (h)
3rd May - Plymouth (a)

Fingers crossed that Luton and Plymouth go for it/need a win to stay up and Hecky can do us a favour with Preston. Boro away is another potential tough one, but I can’t see them losing any of the others. At a stretch, Bristol City if they need a win for the play-offs.
 
Champagneblade said:
I think 8 more wins does it.

Once you start looking at 94 points, it would be incredibly unlikely that two teams finish above you and that is assuming that it’s 8 wins and 5 defeats. That’s averaging 1.84 points per game. We’ve not averaged so few all season. Two per game gets you to 96.

Burnley would need 2.38 ppg for that. Or 10 wins, a draw and only 2 defeats or 9 wins, 4 draws and no defeats. That’s a huge ask.
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Don’t tempt fate. It’d be such a United thing to finish 3rd on 94 points, Burnley 2nd on 95 and everyone losing the plot over the points deduction.
 
S64 Blade said:
The 18/19 run came to an end of course with the Basham arriving game, mid March.
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It wasn't quite that straightforward.

When we beat them at Elland Road we went one point above them but then we lost our next game against Bristol City and they beat Millwall which put them back 2nd.

The following game they lost at Birmingham and we won at Preston so we swapped places again.

But then we drew our next two games against Birmingham and Millwall which put it firmly in Leeds' hands.

Leeds were still 2nd right up until 19th April when they famously imploded against Wigan.
 

96 should win it.
Rusty view said:
Think Leeds will win it.

Monday is going to be tough.
Qpr away won't be easy.

Just get us 7 clear with 2 to play.

Weirdly, while I want to win promotion I'm just not fussed about going up. The Premier League just doesn't excite me. Maybe I'm scarred from our last season there.
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If we had the previous ownership I would wonder what difference there would be. Now? I think we might actually have at the very least championship standard owner wealth so have a fighting chance
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
It wasn't quite that straightforward.

When we beat them at Elland Road we went one point above them but then we lost our next game against Bristol City and they beat Millwall which put them back 2nd.

The following game they lost at Birmingham and we won at Preston so we swapped places again.

But then we drew our next two games against Birmingham and Millwall which put it firmly in Leeds' hands.

Leeds were still 2nd right up until 19th April when they famously imploded against Wigan.
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Yeah I’m not saying it happened immediately, but their form has dropped off a cliff in the last 8 games on both occasions of them bottling the top two.
 
S64 Blade said:
Yeah I’m not saying it happened immediately, but their form has dropped off a cliff in the last 8 games on both occasions of them bottling the top two.
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That's true but on both of those occasions those Leeds teams had been patchy all season.

This current Leeds team isn't showing any signs of waning, they haven't lost since November.
 
Rusty view said:
Think Leeds will win it.

Monday is going to be tough.
Qpr away won't be easy.

Just get us 7 clear with 2 to play.

Weirdly, while I want to win promotion I'm just not fussed about going up. The Premier League just doesn't excite me. Maybe I'm scarred from our last season there.
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I just think that once the finish line is in sight Wilder is just the manager to keep the hammer down and see us over the line, focus on a game at a time and just get the results needed even if not pretty.
 
To an extent, I think it has helped us that Burnley do not concede at all. All the press focus on records and that false sense of security that they feel they basically cannot lose as it is, seems to have made them too passive and accepting of draws.

I also think that Parker would take a sequence of 1-0, 0-0, 2-0 and 0-0 right now if that guaranteed the longest ever sequence without conceding.

They might get more dangerous once the circus run is over.
 
Rusty view said:
Weirdly, while I want to win promotion I'm just not fussed about going up. The Premier League just doesn't excite me. Maybe I'm scarred from our last season there.
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Sort of with you but I accepted last season because we needed the money and there was concerns about our viability without it. I miss the midweek games as they sort of make up for barren international weeks.
 
Sunderland are likely out of the autos now, like Burnley, Sunderland have drawn far too many games for an auto chasing side, only difference is they've lost important games as well.

Leeds are surely due a loss in the league, whether it's against us or someone else they're due a loss, I just hope it's against us.

Be more than happy with just a point on Monday.

If they beat us, 1st place is theirs to lose, gaining 6 points on them in the remaining 12 games is easier said than done.
 
KeyffSmyff said:
Sort of with you but I accepted last season because we needed the money and there was concerns about our viability without it. I miss the midweek games as they sort of make up for barren international weeks.
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Our first season up it almost felt like an event every time we played as it was so spaced out. Our first season down felt like a real slog even just as a fan!
 
Late to this thread, but I reckon 8 wins from 13 is do able and likely enough to cement 2nd spot.

Burnley would need 10 wins and Sunderland would need 11 which is unlikely from 13 games.
 

8 wins realistically means 26 points with 2 draws, so 96 points

It's highly unlikely that wouldn't be enough

8 wins from 13 is a continuation of our current 2 in 3 win percentage

Add to that our squad now being much stronger, and this being the decisive point of the season where in previous promotion seasons we've stepped it up if anything - twice with the same manager - and you have to strongly fancy our chances of getting those 8 wins
 
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