Booing Coutts

[west_yorks_blade]

Perm any one from:-

Don't cheer.
Don't clap.
Don't sing.
Be in the car / pub before the final whistle to avoid the temptation to Boo at the final whistle.
Stand at the back with you back to goal if you must.

Booing is a cultural cancer at English football stadia and BDTBL has become its Mecca.

Does it help the players or management during a game / after a game ?

Does it make our club more appealing to prospective players in the future (players talk you know) ?

I'm not here to gain points or anything but I seriously question the role our fans have played this last few seasons and would cite it as a reason (clearly not the only one) as to why we are where we are.

The atmosphere has gone toxic very quickly. There is a them and us mentality and it's clearly affecting the players.

Mid table IS NOT fucking good enough. Not in a month of Sunday's.

But sulking about it will achieve fuck all.

It's got to the stage where I would much rather share an empty stadium of 3000 fans that could actually manage to control their emotions such that there wasn't a constant dark cloud of negativity over the ground every time we play. It's become obvious that some fans, WHATEVER happens, are just looking to come to the ground and vent.

Booing is bollocks. Period.

UTB

You're having your period? Is that why you are so worked up love?

 

[Darthblade]

Not all of them. But a fair few !!!

UTB

Well .... I've given this much thought over the last 6 weeks and have reconsidered on a couple of players, for instance I would now keep Basham as a squad player but transfer list Done.

For me I would say;

Release ALL out-of contract players other than Long.

Transfer list Done, Coutts, Scougal, Wallace J, Woolford.

Work with the rest ..... plus about 12 new signings ( mixture of loans / free agents / permanent signings )

UTB & FTP

 

[Harry's Game]

Perm any one from:-

Don't cheer.
Don't clap.
Don't sing.
Be in the car / pub before the final whistle to avoid the temptation to Boo at the final whistle.
Stand at the back with you back to goal if you must.

Booing is a cultural cancer at English football stadia and BDTBL has become its Mecca.

Does it help the players or management during a game / after a game ?

Does it make our club more appealing to prospective players in the future (players talk you know) ?

I'm not here to gain points or anything but I seriously question the role our fans have played this last few seasons and would cite it as a reason (clearly not the only one) as to why we are where we are.

The atmosphere has gone toxic very quickly. There is a them and us mentality and it's clearly affecting the players.

Mid table IS NOT fucking good enough. Not in a month of Sunday's.

But sulking about it will achieve fuck all.

It's got to the stage where I would much rather share an empty stadium of 3000 fans that could actually manage to control their emotions such that there wasn't a constant dark cloud of negativity over the ground every time we play. It's become obvious that some fans, WHATEVER happens, are just looking to come to the ground and vent.

Booing is bollocks. Period.

UTB

Guff.

 

[Ricky]

Sherbert dip.

Do you accept that his role in the side is not to go flying in to tackles ?
Do you also accept that flying in to tackles, given the rules of the modern game, is a dying art ?

Just wondering like.

UTB

Yep, I accept that's not his main role. What I don't accept is backing out of challenges when such situations arise.

Second point is irrelevant. It's still part of the game, and always will be. Even if it was a dying art, is that somehow an excuse not to go into tackles today?!

 

[spongebobblade]

Well said.

No doubt you led the happy clappers then WHF?..... Oh sorry, I'm on ignore because I don't agree with you

 

[DronnieBlade]

None of what you have said actually lets the players know that fans find it unacceptable. I agree about booing during a game but there's nothing wrong when it's justified at the end of a match or today's walk around. They are highly paid professionals who haven't warranted the money they have earned this year. If they can't take a bit of deserved critisism then they shouldn't be playing. They milk the applause when it's given, they should take the flack when it's deserved. Whether you like it or not. It has been justified at times this season

Do you honestly believe that the players and management of a professional club can not tell the difference between acceptable standards and unacceptable standards ?

That players and managers alike have responsibilities and are accountable (usually with their jobs) ?

Do you think it needs the thousands that booed today to tell the players today their performance was poor ?

Let's face facts. Some folks just like the sound of their own voices / are full of their own self importance / are so ambivalent towards their day to day lives that it is a good release to come to the Lane to "vent" cos they can, and with a whole bunch of like minded individuals to boot.

Tell me I am wrong !

UTB

 

[Almosthuman]

Perm any one from:-

Don't cheer.
Don't clap.
Don't sing.
Be in the car / pub before the final whistle to avoid the temptation to Boo at the final whistle.
Stand at the back with you back to goal if you must.

Booing is a cultural cancer at English football stadia and BDTBL has become its Mecca.

Does it help the players or management during a game / after a game ?

Does it make our club more appealing to prospective players in the future (players talk you know) ?

I'm not here to gain points or anything but I seriously question the role our fans have played this last few seasons and would cite it as a reason (clearly not the only one) as to why we are where we are.

The atmosphere has gone toxic very quickly. There is a them and us mentality and it's clearly affecting the players.

Mid table IS NOT fucking good enough. Not in a month of Sunday's.

But sulking about it will achieve fuck all.

It's got to the stage where I would much rather share an empty stadium of 3000 fans that could actually manage to control their emotions such that there wasn't a constant dark cloud of negativity over the ground every time we play. It's become obvious that some fans, WHATEVER happens, are just looking to come to the ground and vent.

Booing is bollocks. Period.

UTB

Have to disagree, I'm not a fan of booing during the game but after the game the let the useless cunts know how you feel.

Fans pay a fortune to watch this load of shit so if you want to boo then you have ever right too.

Hopefully makes them feel as uncomfortable as their playing does to us.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Yep, I accept that's not his main role. What I don't accept is backing out of challenges when such situations arise.

Second point is irrelevant. It's still part of the game, and always will be. Even if it was a dying art, is that somehow an excuse not to go into tackles today?!

Irrelevant to you maybe.
But relevant in modern day football.
Keeping 11 players on the pitch, I would suggest, is normally a good strategy whenever possible !

UTB

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

if only there was a dislike button.

This nonsense that the fans are part of the reason the players are performing badly is rubbish. The fans are rightly furious that the team is full of gutless, underperforming, players with no leadership skills. Give us a half decent team and we will back them.

Personally, I never boo them but I think the fans have every right to this year.

One consistent factor in the Wilderness Years is KM.

Another is a vociferous, opinionated, miserable, negative, but self-congratulatory and seemingly self-satisfied section of "fans".

There are other issues of course but maybe some of the "fans" are part of the problem.

Let's say Baptiste or even Adams were considering their future today.

No Thanks Nige, I'll try my luck elsewhere.

 

[spongebobblade]

Do you honestly believe that the players and management of a professional club can not tell the difference between acceptable standards and unacceptable standards ?

That players and managers alike have responsibilities and are accountable (usually with their jobs) ?

Do you think it needs the thousands that booed today to tell the players today their performance was poor ?

Let's face facts. Some folks just like the sound of their own voices / are full of their own self importance / are so ambivalent towards their day to day lives that it is a good release to come to the Lane to "vent" cos they can, and with a whole bunch of like minded individuals to boot.

Tell me I am wrong !

UTB

Some do yes, but your bracketing everyone who booed just because you don't like booing. People are pissed off, getting fed up of the mediocre effort and football we are subjected to. If the players/management can tell the standards aren't good enough why don't they do anything about it? They've had a full season to sort themselves out. If you buy a ticket you are entitled to voice your opinion. Like I say, I'm not up for booing during the game but that doesn't mean I'm right nor does it mean people shouldn't boo just because you don't like it.

 

[spongebobblade]

One consistent factor in the Wilderness Years is KM.

Another is a vociferous, opinionated, miserable, negative, but self-congratulatory and seemingly self-satisfied section of "fans".

There are other issues of course but maybe some of the "fans" are part of the problem.

Let's say Baptiste or even Adams were considering their future today.

No Thanks Nige, I'll try my luck elsewhere.

And it's the fans fault again...... FFS

 

[ucandomagic]

You don't have to go flying into challenges to be effective when you don't have the ball. Watch Leicester or Liverpool pressing. Get between your man and your goal and stay there, come what may. That's enough. Leave ball-winning to the ball winners by all means, but everybody has a part to play. Coutts allows them by and never catches up. That is what is unforgiveable. Hammond is so slow that the only way he has is to hack them down as they go by! For those 2 reasons alone, we have lost at least 5 games.

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Irrelevant to you maybe.
But relevant in modern day football.
Keeping 11 players on the pitch, I would suggest, is normally a good strategy whenever possible !

UTB

Going into 50/50 challenges is still a part of modern day football. End of. The future is irrelevant.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Some do yes, but your bracketing everyone who booed just because you don't like booing. People are pissed off, getting fed up of the mediocre effort and football we are subjected to. If the players/management can tell the standards aren't good enough why don't they do anything about it? They've had a full season to sort themselves out. If you buy a ticket you are entitled to voice your opinion. Like I say, I'm not up for booing during the game but that doesn't mean I'm right nor does it mean people shouldn't boo just because you don't like it.

People will Boo. I have to accept it. Don't like it but accept it.

I left 6 minutes b4 the final whistle today and, one desperate performance at Highbury many moons ago aside, have never done that before.

That's my protest.

UTB

 

[Guesty]

One consistent factor in the Wilderness Years is KM.

Another is a vociferous, opinionated, miserable, negative, but self-congratulatory and seemingly self-satisfied section of "fans".

There are other issues of course but maybe some of the "fans" are part of the problem.

Let's say Baptiste or even Adams were considering their future today.

No Thanks Nige, I'll try my luck elsewhere.

Oh no! And they've been such vital components of our recent success!

 

[DronnieBlade]

Going into 50/50 challenges is still a part of modern day football. End of. The future is irrelevant.

Once again you make a schoolboy error.

I speak of the now,, not the future. You added that for your own purpose.

If you wish to paraphrase me, please try to get it right.

Thanks and good night.

UTB

 

[Darthblade]

Irrelevant to you maybe.
But relevant in modern day football.
Keeping 11 players on the pitch, I would suggest, is normally a good strategy whenever possible !

UTB

The player that he bottled the challenge with didn't go leaping in and get sent off ........ he simply was committed to winning the ball and left the big fairy on his arse without even conceding a free kick .......

UTB & FTP

 

[spongebobblade]

People will Boo. I have to accept it. Don't like it but accept it.

I left 6 minutes b4 the final whistle today and, one desperate performance at Highbury many moons ago aside, have never done that before.

That's my protest.

UTB

If you had been to Bury this season even the most ardent clapper would have struggled not to boo

 

[DronnieBlade]

The player that he bottled the challenge with didn't go leaping in and get sent off ........ he simply was committed to winning the ball and left the big fairy on his arse without even conceding a free kick .......

UTB & FTP

If EITHER player had mis timed that very tackle by a split second they would have been off.

Tell me I am wrong ?

See the point ?

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Once again you make a schoolboy error.

I speak of the now,, not the future. You added that for your own purpose.

If you wish to paraphrase me, please try to get it right.

Thanks and good night.

UTB

You suggested it was a 'dying art' and that it justifies bottling challenges in the here and now. Which is stupid. If you weren't suggesting that then it's just a separate and irrelevant point and I don't know why you'd make it.

 

[JohnDenver]

If EITHER player had mis timed that very tackle by a split second they would have been off.

Tell me I am wrong ?

See the point ?

UTB

If the point isn't that Coutts is a sack of shit, then I'm confused.

I thought he did just enough in that challenge, but the rest of the game and season of watching him 'perform'? Oh my...

 

[super_pig]

Do you honestly believe that the players and management of a professional club can not tell the difference between acceptable standards and unacceptable standards ?

judging by adkins interviews it would appear that 'no' they do NOT . that is why everyone is upset mate. Adkins seems to think it is fine for us to finish 12th

 

[DronnieBlade]

You suggested it was a 'dying art' and that it justifies bottling challenges in the here and now. Which is stupid. If you weren't suggesting that then it's just a separate and irrelevant point and I don't know why you'd make it.

Ok.

Can you accept that the so called 50/50 challenge comes with a higher risk of getting sent off today than it did a mere 10 years ago ?

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Ok.

Can you accept that the so called 50/50 challenge comes with a higher risk of getting sent off today than it did a mere 10 years ago ?

UTB

Yes. But that's no excuse not to go in for them. Players know how they can and can't challenge. The rules today actually make it safer to go in for challenges 90% of the time, when opponents won't go in for it in a dangerous, studs up sort of manner.

 

[super_pig]

Ok.

Can you accept that the so called 50/50 challenge comes with a higher risk of getting sent off today than it did a mere 10 years ago ?

UTB

what has this got to do with anything.. coutts is nesher than any pro i've ever seen

 

[DronnieBlade]

Yes. But that's no excuse not to go in for them. Players know how they can and can't challenge. The rules today actually make it safer to go in for challenges 90% of the time, when opponents won't go in for it in a dangerous, studs up sort of manner.

Yes was fine.

Thanks.

UTB

 

[DronnieBlade]

what has this got to do with anything.. coutts is nesher than any pro i've ever seen

It has nothing to do with everything. Hope that helps.

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Yes was fine.

Thanks.

UTB

Just 'yes' suits you. The rest doesn't, as it's obviously correct.

Would you instruct your team never to go in for 50/50 challenges?

 

[BeatleBlade]

I think the totally empty stadium on their lap will have spoken louder than the boos. I'd feel more embarrassed applauding empty stands personally.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Just 'yes' suits you. The rest doesn't, as it's obviously correct.

Would you instruct your team never to go in for 50/50 challenges?

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