Recruitment philosophy

[Barney]

The whole recruitment philosophy we have at the moment just isn't viable for promotion. Paying way over the odds for championship rejects on their way down doesn't get you out of this division. Believe it or not, a leaf needs to be taken out of the books of these smaller clubs getting promotion out of nowhere. They recruit unknowns that become well knowns and make it work as a team. Which is exactly what we should have been doing years ago.

Recruitment next season needs to be dropped down to a similar strategy to the clubs that go up on much smaller budgets. The budget itself though is one thing that shouldn't be dropped to the kind of level the majority of the clubs in this league have to work with. That resources advantage that should be available next season needs to be there so it is much easier to do it better than they can.

Only problem being the manager has done more or less everything to prove he doesn't learn from his mistakes and will replicate his poor managerial ability on a much larger scale. It's a shame that a little unbeaten run is enough to have deceived appropriately and afforded him the opportunity to do so. It should all be alright though because we've won and drawn a few games.

 

[PeteBlade]

You managed to get to the third paragraph without this being yet another regurgitated anti Adkins thread.

Well done.

 

[Esablade]

The whole recruitment philosophy we have at the moment just isn't viable for promotion. Paying way over the odds for championship rejects on their way down doesn't get you out of this division. Believe it or not, a leaf needs to be taken out of the books of these smaller clubs getting promotion out of nowhere. They recruit unknowns that become well knowns and make it work as a team. Which is exactly what we should have been doing years ago.

Recruitment next season needs to be dropped down to a similar strategy to the clubs that go up on much smaller budgets. The budget itself though is one thing that shouldn't be dropped to the kind of level the majority of the clubs in this league have to work with. That resources advantage that should be available next season needs to be there so it is much easier to do it better than they can.

Only problem being the manager has done more or less everything to prove he doesn't learn from his mistakes and will replicate his poor managerial ability on a much larger scale. It's a shame that a little unbeaten run is enough to have deceived appropriately and afforded him the opportunity to do so. It should all be alright though because we've won and drawn a few games.

He's been allowed to buy one player Barney ..as you well know.
Next season will be your 'ideal scenario' re: recruitment if all the 'hints' so far are to be believed...whether that's Adkins or someone else.

 

[sitwell]

One thing I hope Adkins does take from this is that a settled team is a winning team ,and if you do slip up a couple of times it shouldn't mean wholesale changes and a new team to mould together.

 

[Esablade]

One thing I hope Adkins does take from this is that a settled team is a winning team ,and if you do slip up a couple of times it shouldn't mean wholesale changes and a new team to mould together.

..and actually sort our scouting 'system' out because it's been useless on the whole, culminating in Clough's brother...

 

[alcoblade]

The whole recruitment philosophy we have at the moment just isn't viable for promotion. Paying way over the odds for championship rejects on their way down doesn't get you out of this division. Believe it or not, a leaf needs to be taken out of the books of these smaller clubs getting promotion out of nowhere. They recruit unknowns that become well knowns and make it work as a team. Which is exactly what we should have been doing years ago.

Recruitment next season needs to be dropped down to a similar strategy to the clubs that go up on much smaller budgets. The budget itself though is one thing that shouldn't be dropped to the kind of level the majority of the clubs in this league have to work with. That resources advantage that should be available next season needs to be there so it is much easier to do it better than they can.

Only problem being the manager has done more or less everything to prove he doesn't learn from his mistakes and will replicate his poor managerial ability on a much larger scale. It's a shame that a little unbeaten run is enough to have deceived appropriately and afforded him the opportunity to do so. It should all be alright though because we've won and drawn a few games.

Most people didn't want him sacked before the recent upturn in form.

A bit like thousands of your posts, nothing has changed.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

One thing I hope Adkins does take from this is that a settled team is a winning team ,and if you do slip up a couple of times it shouldn't mean wholesale changes and a new team to mould together.

Agreed. And trimming about 20 players for the squad makes this much more achievable. Thankfully he's on with that too.

UTB

 

[sitwell]

..and actually sort our scouting 'system' out because it's been useless on the whole, culminating in Clough's brother...

Adams isn't bad ,but I agree ,the problem is with the change of manager comes a change of scout ,as soon as they start finding decent for the style and position wanted we bomb them out and start again. We should make the manager instruct the scout in place what he needs instead of getting someone in who has to start afresh even if they have used them before. We need to start being radical and trying new things as the tried and tested route has proved to be shit.

 

[Esablade]

Adams isn't bad ,but I agree ,the problem is with the change of manager comes a change of scout ,as soon as they start finding decent for the style and position wanted we bomb them out and start again. We should make the manager instruct the scout in place what he needs instead of getting someone in who has to start afresh even if they have used them before. We need to start being radical and trying new things as the tried and tested route has proved to be shit.

I think they got lucky with Adams..he was on the doorstep basically...

 

[Ricky]

Regarding scouting and recruitment, I am 100% confident that we're in much better hands with Adkins than we were with Clough (and his brother).

He's revamping our scouting set up and now should know exactly what we need after the time spent with this squad and just as importantly time spent in the division. He talks about the need for height and the need for robust players who can be relied on to play 40 games, which is promising. We've also started to see a few interesting triallists arrive.

I'm not excusing Adkins' poor overall performance this season, but as far as recruitment goes, he's only signed a handful of players and only spent one fee. It seems unlikely that Sammon was his signing, we had every reason to believe Hammond would be exactly what we need, Edgar's been average and Sharp and Baptiste have done well. We also don't know just how much the board might have interfered with their insistence that any new signings be 'better than what we've got' - in other words players they must have heard of who have played at a higher level and are probably getting on a bit. It can hardly be claimed that he's had a fantastic budget either, especially after throwing away a chunk of it on Sammon's wages. A good enough budget to have got us promoted if allowed to spend it as he wished, but still not a great budget.

 

[super_pig]

Regarding scouting and recruitment, I am 100% confident that we're in much better hands with Adkins than we were with Clough (and his brother).

He's revamping our scouting set up and now should know exactly what we need after the time spent with this squad and just as importantly time spent in the division. He talks about the need for height and the need for robust players who can be relied on to play 40 games, which is promising. We've also started to see a few interesting triallists arrive.

I'm not excusing Adkins' poor overall performance this season, but as far as recruitment goes, he's only signed a handful of players and only spent one fee. It seems unlikely that Sammon was his signing, we had every reason to believe Hammond would be exactly what we need, Edgar's been average and Sharp and Baptiste have done well. We also don't know just how much the board might have interfered with their insistence that any new signings be 'better than what we've got' - in other words players they must have heard of who have played at a higher level and are probably getting on a bit. It can hardly be claimed that he's had a fantastic budget either, especially after throwing away a chunk of it on Sammon's wages. A good enough budget to have got us promoted if allowed to spend it as he wished, but still not a great budget.

agree with most of that.. but Hammond??.. you can't be serious?

 

[Ricky]

agree with most of that.. but Hammond??.. you can't be serious?

What - I can't be serious that we had every reason to expect Hammond to offer us a lot more? A guy who had recently played plenty of games for a promotion winning Leicester side who was still only 32?

 

[super_pig]

What - I can't be serious that we had every reason to expect Hammond to offer us a lot more? A guy who had recently played plenty of games for a promotion winning Leicester side who was still only 32?

sorry i misread it.. my mistake. you are correct

 

[west_yorks_blade]

..and actually sort our scouting 'system' out because it's been useless on the whole, culminating in Clough's brother...

Now just hang on a minute.

What that guy doesn't know about how to merchandise Twix's and Nudie mags isn't worth knowing.

 

[sheffielder]

Personally if we are going to stick with Adkins, which I just about think we have to then he needs to build on the system and players that ended the season

Resign Long, Mceverley and Flynn and try to get Edgar on a free

Leave basham where is now and stick Brayford as the right sided centre back in a 3 and then I am going to be really controversial. Don't sign anyone else permantely and use the kids and loans to fill in The gaps.

Now that Adkins has opened the pathway more clubs will be interested in loaning us their better youths.

 

[robbiez666]

One thing I hope Adkins does take from this is that a settled team is a winning team ,and if you do slip up a couple of times it shouldn't mean wholesale changes and a new team to mould together.

I think he's been desperately trying to improve results by constantly changing personnel and formations until he's realised it can't be done. He needs to keep a settled side and fill in the gaps with recruitment. Our recruitment needs to be value for money, up and coming, talented youth, free/cheap stop gaps to get us up. We have a base of a side for next season:

---------------------Long
---------------Brayford CB CB
Basham ---------------------------Wallace
----------------CM Whiteman CM
----------------Sharpe -- Adams

Subs: Reed, DCL, GK, Tall CF, Done, J-Mac, CM

Get shut of Coutts, Woolford, Scougs and McNulty. I'd sell Brayford if someone will give us 500k plus just to get shut if the wage burden.

We should already be looking at League 1 players who's contract is up at the end of the year. Also players at clubs not going up. We need to cherry pick the best and also look at the league below.

 

[Harry's Game]

Personally if we are going to stick with Adkins, which I just about think we have to then he needs to build on the system and players that ended the season

Resign Long, Mceverley and Flynn and try to get Edgar on a free

Leave basham where is now and stick Brayford as the right sided centre back in a 3 and then I am going to be really controversial. Don't sign anyone else permantely and use the kids and loans to fill in The gaps.

Now that Adkins has opened the pathway more clubs will be interested in loaning us their better youths.

Jesus don't put Brayford at centre back! We want someone there who can defend!

 

[Revolution]

Personally if we are going to stick with Adkins, which I just about think we have to then he needs to build on the system and players that ended the season

Resign Long, Mceverley and Flynn and try to get Edgar on a free

Leave basham where is now and stick Brayford as the right sided centre back in a 3 and then I am going to be really controversial. Don't sign anyone else permantely and use the kids and loans to fill in The gaps.

Now that Adkins has opened the pathway more clubs will be interested in loaning us their better youths.

That is a recipe for a repeat of this season.

 

[Darthblade]

The whole recruitment philosophy we have at the moment just isn't viable for promotion. Paying way over the odds for championship rejects on their way down doesn't get you out of this division. Believe it or not, a leaf needs to be taken out of the books of these smaller clubs getting promotion out of nowhere. They recruit unknowns that become well knowns and make it work as a team. Which is exactly what we should have been doing years ago.

Recruitment next season needs to be dropped down to a similar strategy to the clubs that go up on much smaller budgets. The budget itself though is one thing that shouldn't be dropped to the kind of level the majority of the clubs in this league have to work with. That resources advantage that should be available next season needs to be there so it is much easier to do it better than they can.

Only problem being the manager has done more or less everything to prove he doesn't learn from his mistakes and will replicate his poor managerial ability on a much larger scale. It's a shame that a little unbeaten run is enough to have deceived appropriately and afforded him the opportunity to do so. It should all be alright though because we've won and drawn a few games.

You mean to imply that there's evidence that we actually DO have a recruitment policy ???

UTB & FTP