Alf Ringstead

[blade too long]

A conversation I had at the weekend...

Bloke - Do you know who the brother of the King of the Minnesota Renaissance Festival is?

Me - No.

Bloke - Well, you remember the TV show Roswell?

Me - No.

Bloke - Well, it's the main guy's brother.

Me - Um...ok.

Bloke - Yeah. The King gets mail meant for this guy delivered to him by mistake.

Me - That's tough.

sounds like celebrity big brother material

 

[blade too long]

I love the way the description refers to us simply as 'The United'.

whence? whence he was transferred to THE United
we were big in the days of yore

 

[alpine blade]

When I first started going to the Lane my grandad, who was a fine all round sportsman and knew his football, told me 'best player United ever 'ad were Jimmy Hagan'.
Well before my time but I'm aware of his career as a player and manager (and surveyor) and if I ever win the Euro millions and buy United, him and Billy Gillespie would get statues outside. It would be the second thing I did, after sacking the board.
True legend. Although you know that.

After your

 

[alpine blade]

When I first started going to the Lane my grandad, who was a fine all round sportsman and knew his football, told me 'best player United ever 'ad were Jimmy Hagan'.
Well before my time but I'm aware of his career as a player and manager (and surveyor) and if I ever win the Euro millions and buy United, him and Billy Gillespie would get statues outside. It would be the second thing I did, after sacking the board.
True legend. Although you know that.

Sorry. Faulty reply earlier. After you've won your fortune, think about Ernest Needham. He probably had the best record of anyone. UTB

 

[Woodwardfan]

When I first started going to the Lane my grandad, who was a fine all round sportsman and knew his football, told me 'best player United ever 'ad were Jimmy Hagan'.
Well before my time but I'm aware of his career as a player and manager (and surveyor) and if I ever win the Euro millions and buy United, him and Billy Gillespie would get statues outside. It would be the second thing I did, after sacking the board.
True legend. Although you know that.

Well said about Hagan, no idea about Gillespie.

Valid point though, like many things e.g. which players, which eras, why not managers, why not owners, which photographer, which supporters do you commemorate and which don't you?

Over to you McCabe. whatever you decide 35% will agree and 65% will never forgive you!

 

[HighfieldBlade]

This article is about Rab Howell who played for us and was England's first Romany player - an interesting read...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-27490919

 

[Sirius]

Well i'm 20 and the furthest i know of legends and othe ex players is 70s, beyond that really haven't a clue.

My late father spoke of players in the thirties, as we now speak of our legends. My grandfather was right there at the start of it all. According to him he and Fatty were mates and Thicket Needham and Boyle wee the names I heard most as a chabbie
They were his legends as Hagan and TC are mine. Each generation chooses the best they see but right now, legend status is a bit thin on the ground.

In 1989 Denis Clareborough picked his best Blades X1 that was published in a programme (I think it was for the friendly match against Wendy- match ended 0-0 and Carlton Palmer got sent off) and I noticed that he picked Alf Ringstead ahead of Woody for the right wing position. In the mid 1990s I asked Denis why he picked Ringstead ahead of Woody in his best Blades X1. He said Woody was a very good player but felt that Ringstead "was more determined" . I had read that Ringstead had never watched a professional football match before he made his debut for New Brighton! I remember seeing him play g

In 1989 Denis Clareborough picked his best Blades X1 that was published in a programme (I think it was for the friendly match against Wendy- match ended 0-0 and Carlton Palmer got sent off) and I noticed that he picked Alf Ringstead ahead of Woody for the right wing position. In the mid 1990s I asked Denis why he picked Ringstead ahead of Woody in his best Blades X1. He said Woody was a very good player but felt that Ringstead "was more determined" . I had read that Ringstead had never watched a professional football match before he made his debut for New Brighton! I remember seeing him play golf at Hallowes club whenever I went up there for a walk in the 1990s

whenever I went up there for a walk in the 1990s[/QUO

In 1989 Denis Clareborough picked his best Blades X1 that was published in a programme (I think it was for the friendly match against Wendy- match ended 0-0 and Carlton Palmer got sent off) and I noticed that he picked Alf Ringstead ahead of Woody for the right wing position. In the mid 1990s I asked Denis why he picked Ringstead ahead of Woody in his best Blades X1. He said Woody was a very good player but felt that Ringstead "was more determined" . I had read that Ringstead had never watched a professional football match before he made his debut for New Brighton! I remember seeing him play golf at Hallowes club whenever I went up there for a walk in the 1990s

Alf Ringstead lived on Norton Lane and his children, Gail and Ian, went to the same primary school as me - Norton Free. I don't remember Gail very well but Ian was a couple of years above me and was a nice lad. Derek Dooley's son, Martin, went to that school as well and was about the same age as Ian.[/QU

In 1989 Denis Clareborough picked his best Blades X1 that was published in a programme (I think it was for the friendly match against Wendy- match ended 0-0 and Carlton Palmer got sent off) and I noticed that he picked Alf Ringstead ahead of Woody for the right wing position. In the mid 1990s I asked Denis why he picked Ringstead ahead of Woody in his best Blades X1. He said Woody was a very good player but felt that Ringstead "was more determined" . I had read that Ringstead had never watched a professional football match before he made his debut for New Brighton! I remember seeing him play golf at Hallowes club whenever I went up there for a walk in the 1990s

A few seasons ago my best Blades team was published in Flashing Blade. I selected Ringstead over Woody. Both were fantastic players but IMO Ringstead was more direct and at times Woody was a little nesh. There was a third right winger whom I loved to watch Len Alchurch, a different style but a top plsyer.

 

[Silent Blade]

Alf Ringstead leaves 1966 World Cup winner, Ray Wilson (then playing for Huddersfield), for dead in the 0-0 draw at BDTBL in September 1958

 

[Woodwardfan]

Sort of distant first memories of talk round our kitchen table and those mentioned were Dodds, Johnson, Hagan , Ringstead. Negatively - Barrass.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Sort of distant first memories of talk round our kitchen table and those mentioned were Dodds, Johnson, Hagan , Ringstead. Negatively - Barrass.

Looking at Wiki, Johnson and Dodds were before my time but obviously still being talked about some years later.

 

[alpine blade]

Sort of distant first memories of talk round our kitchen table and those mentioned were Dodds, Johnson, Hagan , Ringstead. Negatively - Barrass.

Malcolm Barrass if I remember. He was a bit of an embarrassment !!

 

[Sirius]

Malcolm Barrass if I remember. He was a bit of an embarrassment !!

Love the pun
Not fit to lace Joe Shaw's boots

 

[Revolution]

Malcolm Barrass if I remember. He was a bit of an embarrassment !!

The Nyron Nosworthy of his time...

 

[BushBlade]

Well said about Hagan, no idea about Gillespie.

Valid point though, like many things e.g. which players, which eras, why not managers, why not owners, which photographer, which supporters do you commemorate and which don't you?

Over to you McCabe. whatever you decide 35% will agree and 65% will never forgive you!

Google him Woody. Derry City play in red and white stripes because of his links with us. Definitely a 'top blade'.

 

[Kentblade]

Anyone watch this side------------
Burgin
Furniss Cox
Hitchen Latham Shaw J
Ringstead Hagan Browning Brook Hawksworth.

3 sided ground and no floodlights.

Jimmy Hagan, Alf Ringstead and Joe Shaw used to catch the bus at Hollythorpe Rise, number 34 or 35 and get off on Bramall lane for training.

Happy memories.

UTB

 

[justpassing]

Hello,

Just read with interest the love for Hagan. I have this programme that features the two legends Hagan and Freeman as a testimonial of sorts but to raise funds for Derby and Joan.

Just thought I'd share as I understand it is very rare.

 

[wizadry]

Hello,

Just read with interest the love for Hagan. I have this programme that features the two legends Hagan and Freeman as a testimonial of sorts but to raise funds for Derby and Joan.

Just thought I'd share as I understand it is very rare.

5.30pm kick off? Sky had a lot to answer for back in those days as well as today? They probably took thousands of the testimonial fee, the twats!

 

[Woodwardfan]

Anyone watch this side------------
Burgin
Furniss Cox
Hitchen Latham Shaw J
Ringstead Hagan Browning Brook Hawksworth.

3 sided ground and no floodlights.

Jimmy Hagan, Alf Ringstead and Joe Shaw used to catch the bus at Hollythorpe Rise, number 34 or 35 and get off on Bramall lane for training.

Happy memories.

UTB

Don't know, but I remember seeing Burgin, Latham, J.Shaw, Ringstead, Hagan and Hawksworth play. Latham became our trainer and was a familiar figure for years after he stopped playing.

Remember the first floodlights and the second lot.

3 sided ground until not so long ago really!!!!

 

[Woodwardfan]

Don't know, but I remember seeing Burgin, Latham, J.Shaw, Ringstead, Hagan and Hawksworth play. Latham became our trainer and was a familiar figure for years after he stopped playing.

Remember the first floodlights and the second lot.

3 sided ground until not so long ago really!!!!

Not sure I saw Latham play actually.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Sorry. Faulty reply earlier. After you've won your fortune, think about Ernest Needham. He probably had the best record of anyone. UTB

As alpine blade says, in terms of achievements and medals, the guy on the left is head and shoulders above anyone else. That said, he should probably be honoured with Jimmy, who had a very distinguished career after he finished playing as well.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

My dad was of the Currie/Woodward era, and like most fans of that generation he always insisted that Currie was the finest player ever to grace the club.
But he told me that a lot of the older ones thought Jimmy Hagan was even better.
Anyone even older than that would probably say Billy Gillespie for instance.

I don't think we acknowledge our history enough sometimes.
I mean how often does John Nicholson get mentioned? The man who led the club to all of its 4 FA Cups in his 33 years in charge.

Would many fans of my age (30) or younger know who Joe Shaw was if there wasn't a statue of him in the car park? Sadly, most probably wouldn't.

I can't claim to have an in-depth knowledge of Uniteds entire history and all of its significant characters by any means whatsoever, but I still take an interest, even if its a casual one.

In my case, the kids and grandkids are going to have to put up with me prattling on about Dane Whitehouse forever. So I suppose everyone is biased towards their own generation to an extent, maybe too great an extent sometimes.

Spot on, I was thinking that the other day. The likes of Nicholson, Gillespie, Hagan, Harris etc should get more of a mention when it comes to debating building statues, naming stands after people etc. and just in general giving more recognition to their achievements for the club.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Well i'm 20 and the furthest i know of legends and othe ex players is 70s, beyond that really haven't a clue.

As a 20 year old who have been your 'legends' since watching the blades?

I'm 31, in my time my favorites would be Deane, Whitehouse, Brown, Jagielka, Morgan. Unfortunately I couldn't pick two players I've genuinely enjoyed watching since we were relegated from the premier league in 2007. Maybe Ched when he was banging in the goals, but he ruined all that!

 

[AnonymousBlade1995]

As a 20 year old who have been your 'legends' since watching the blades?

I'm 31, in my time my favorites would be Deane, Whitehouse, Brown, Jagielka, Morgan. Unfortunately I couldn't pick two players I've genuinely enjoyed watching since we were relegated from the premier league in 2007. Maybe Ched when he was banging in the goals, but he ruined all that!

Morgan
Kenny
Jagielka

Those are the only ones, i wouldn't even call them legends apart from Morgan just players i really loved at the club.

 

[Sirius]

Don't know, but I remember seeing Burgin, Latham, J.Shaw, Ringstead, Hagan and Hawksworth play. Latham became our trainer and was a familiar figure for years after he stopped playing.

Remember the first floodlights and the second lot.

3 sided ground until not so long ago really!!!!

Yep , an old git here. Saw every home game when we won the Second Division. I have to smile when the medics rush on to the pitch these days with the oxegen. In those days, it was Ernest Jackson, who, on a cold January day approached all those injured or resting with the magic sponge and a bucket of water with ice on top. Many was the time, when Ernest approached and the player hurried to his feet and ran the injury off. The ultimate cure, a sponge full of icy water down the shorts and on to the knackers.

 

[bornablade]

Don't know, but I remember seeing Burgin, Latham, J.Shaw, Ringstead, Hagan and Hawksworth play. Latham became our trainer and was a familiar figure for years after he stopped playing.

Remember the first floodlights and the second lot.

3 sided ground until not so long ago really!!!!

Three sided ground? May as well have had a 3 sided ground over the past 5 seasons with the number of away supporters on the Bramall Lane end. I bet there used to be more stood over at the old Pavilion side. It's the old ghosts of Yorkshire cricket saying 'We'll show 'em.'

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

My late father spoke of players in the thirties, as we now speak of our legends. My grandfather was right there at the start of it all. According to him he and Fatty were mates and Thicket Needham and Boyle wee the names I heard most as a chabbie
They were his legends as Hagan and TC are mine. Each generation chooses the best they see but right now, legend status is a bit thin on the ground.

All we got now are leg ends

 

[Woodwardfan]

Yep , an old git here. Saw every home game when we won the Second Division. I have to smile when the medics rush on to the pitch these days with the oxegen. In those days, it was Ernest Jackson, who, on a cold January day approached all those injured or resting with the magic sponge and a bucket of water with ice on top. Many was the time, when Ernest approached and the player hurried to his feet and ran the injury off. The ultimate cure, a sponge full of icy water down the shorts and on to the knackers.

Hear, hear!!

How much more action we saw in those days when there were no subs, no 4th Officials, no such thing as 'concussion', no attention seeking prima-donna managers anywhere near the touchline. We saw the trainer about once a game,nobody died, we saw the odd game 10 v 11 but not that often, the players provided the drama and took responsibilty and the match officilals didn't worry about their hair-do's. Wonder how many more minutes of actual football we saw; time wasting wasn't really prevalent and the main focus was on attacking the opposition and scoring more goals, not 'managing game time.'

 

[Wapping Blade]

, no such thing as 'concussion'/QUOTE]

Agree in most part but sports are just waking up to the real effects of concussion

 

[Silent Blade]

The likes of Nicholson, Gillespie, Hagan, Harris etc should get more of a mention when it comes to debating building statues, naming stands after people etc. and just in general giving more recognition to their achievements for the club.

John Nicholson? He was just the secretary.

 

[Darren]

John Nicholson? He was just the secretary.

For 33 years - he served the club longer than all but a handful.