Sammon starts

[1danewhitehouse]

He will have a decent game today. Followed by a few posters saying "this is what he brings to the team". He then starts the next game and goes back to being s**t.

I think that sums up the vast majority of our squad. Out of the team for a bit, come in do OK, earn a place then play shit, then out of the team, come back do ok for a game, then shit again. That’s why the last 2 managers haven’t been able to figure out their best 11 and haven’t had a settled side. Every time we bring a player back in we think “Maybe we’ll get a performance from him” and more often than not, we’re disappointed.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

It beggers beleive that sammon would start, he has shown nothing all season. What is more concerning is the fact that so many people think that Adkins is the manager who will get us promoted next season. I think not, just because he has been successful at other clubs does not mean he can do it at every club, just look around at other managers who have enjoyed success then were sacked at other clubs for not performing. Adkins has made very poor judgement calls all season this is just another one to add to the list.

True but any replacement who hasn’t done it at other clubs is no more likely to do it than Adkins who has done it at other clubs. Perhaps we need to look at why managers can do it at other clubs but not at ours.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Name the games he played well in. I'll give you Peterborough away. He was shit at Blackpool in a sea of piss. Other than that he has been one of the worst strikers we have seen at the lane in years yet you defend him. What the fuck do you imagine that the rest of us actually see?

Chesterfield (H) 8.55 average rating on this forum

Peterborough (A) 9.54 average rating on this forum

Swindon (A) 7.72 average rating on this forum

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Bradford (A) only 6.77 from our fans but view from Bradford had him down as changing the game.

Blackpool (A) only 6.67 but our MoM according to the ratings.





There’s been other games where he’s done some good things and some bad but people only remember the bad. Blackpool (H) he was a handful but missed a sitter and that’s what is remembered. Shrewsbury (H) he started well and scored a good goal but we got hammered in midfield and defence and resorted to hoofing it up to him. Being crap in the air meant he struggled after that and was derided by fans. Bradford (H) featured and scored in one of our best performances of the season but also missed a great chance so was derided. Wallsall (A) he made an impact when he came on and had a part in the equaliser.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Well......that turned out well nige.

You fucking idiot.

Do you think any combination he put out there would have won? Millwall have better players than us. That’s why they beat us.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Unsettled their CH a couple of times and we got good possession.

Note to Caveman Keith: this wasn't by aimlessly heading the ball on - it was by challenging for possession, sometimes "losing" it, but being enough of a nuisance that the header was not controlled and we picked up second ball in advanced positions. Something we are generally very poor at. Did this a few times.

First half chased down a ball on the right and won possession: if Done had done this it would be all about how great he is.

Early on second half won a good free kick about twenty five yards out on our left.

Won more decent possession, laid it off, and then got dogs abuse for not being on the end of the cross.

He does plenty right. He does a few things wrong eg misplaced one pass in a dangerous area in particular that was really frustrating - though again it came after his own good work.

If you look for what he's done wrong then you'll have plenty to go at. And plenty are having a go.

Why does this feel like all the McEveley isn't shit posts from October/November time?

The thing is, neither Sammon or McEveley has been consistently good enough to make the fans want them to be part of the longer term plan. And the shortcomings of both are very noticeable. But both have qualities they bring to the team which some seem to refuse to see because they seem to really hate the individuals. I don’t think Sammon’s been a good signing. And for a bloke of his size, he’s crap in the air and he doesn’t score enough goals. That doesn’t mean there aren’t occasions where we are better with him on the pitch than not. Nor is he amongst the worst forwards to wear the shirt. For me, he is a significantly better player than the likes of Porter, Higdon, Ironside etc. But still not good enough for a club that really ought to be aiming for automatic promotion.

 

[mosbolad]

Sammon starts

Sammons tarts......

 

[spongebobblade]

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Bradford (A) only 6.77 from our fans but view from Bradford had him down as changing the game.

Blackpool (A) only 6.67 but our MoM according to the ratings.





There’s been other games where he’s done some good things and some bad but people only remember the bad. Blackpool (H) he was a handful but missed a sitter and that’s what is remembered. Shrewsbury (H) he started well and scored a good goal but we got hammered in midfield and defence and resorted to hoofing it up to him. Being crap in the air meant he struggled after that and was derided by fans. Bradford (H) featured and scored in one of our best performances of the season but also missed a great chance so was derided. Wallsall (A) he made an impact when he came on and had a part in the equaliser.

All about opinions Dane but he was poor at Blackpool in a poor team performance. Some were worse though. Disagree with your assessment of him "making an impact" at Walsall or "starting well" v Shrewsbury and let's be honest, when the blades win its rare we mark players low. That's not to say he played poorly but he certainly in my book didn't play well in any of these games. After watching him at Peterborough I genuinely thought he and Billy would form a great partnership. Unlike some of our players I don't question his application, just his ability. Judging by the number of games he's played this season (and been subbed in) for a so called championship player we are not the only ones connected with the club who don't think he's anywhere near good enough. Yet another who's been paid a pile of dosh this season in return for a pile of shit

 

[longinthe toothblade]

Do you think any combination he put out there would have won? Millwall have better players than us. That’s why they beat us.

That in itself is sad isn't it?

Presumably same must be so for at least, Burton, Wigan, Walsall, Gillingham, Barnsley, Bradford, Coventry, Southend. Can't bring myself around to type Port Vale and the mighty Rochdale.

With the exception of Wigan, didn't we / don't we have the biggest, most expensive, highest paid squad in the league?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

All about opinions Dane but he was poor at Blackpool in a poor team performance. Some were worse though. Disagree with your assessment of him "making an impact" at Walsall or "starting well" v Shrewsbury and let's be honest, when the blades win its rare we mark players low. That's not to say he played poorly but he certainly in my book didn't play well in any of these games. After watching him at Peterborough I genuinely thought he and Billy would form a great partnership. Unlike some of our players I don't question his application, just his ability. Judging by the number of games he's played this season (and been subbed in) for a so called championship player we are not the only ones connected with the club who don't think he's anywhere near good enough. Yet another who's been paid a pile of dosh this season in return for a pile of shit

I agree with you that on the whole, he’s not been good enough. I just think earlier in the season he did put in some decent to good performances. I don’t think he deserved to become the figure of fun amongst the crowd that he has become and his performances have become notably worse since that happened. I’d say he’s an OK squad player who on his day can be a handful. Going forward, we need more than that. I don’t dispute that at all. I just don’t think he’s completely useless or deserves the grief he gets.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

That in itself is sad isn't it?

Presumably same must be so for at least, Burton, Wigan, Walsall, Gillingham, Barnsley, Bradford, Coventry, Southend. Can't bring myself around to type Port Vale and the mighty Rochdale.

With the exception of Wigan, didn't we / don't we have the biggest, most expensive, highest paid squad in the league?

It is very sad but I wouldn’t go as far as including the likes of Vale, Rochdale, Southend etc. in that list. When I’ve seen those sides, I’ve seen little to suggest they are any better than us and the minimal gap in points suggests there’s little in it. Millwall made a poor start then got to grips with things and have probably since October been amongst the top 3 in the division results wise. I thought when they came to the lane their players looked fitter, stronger and better than ours. I thought the same when Wigan came. I wouldn’t say it’s true of all the teams above us. Some have managed to find methods of winning games with inferior players by making the team so much more than the sum of it’s parts, being well drilled, having a great team spirit etc. I would say Burton are the prime example of that.


But yeah, how poor our players are is very sad and I said before the game, whatever team he puts out, I don’t fancy us against Millwall.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

It is very sad but I wouldn’t go as far as including the likes of Vale, Rochdale, Southend etc. in that list. When I’ve seen those sides, I’ve seen little to suggest they are any better than us and the minimal gap in points suggests there’s little in it. Millwall made a poor start then got to grips with things and have probably since October been amongst the top 3 in the division results wise. I thought when they came to the lane their players looked fitter, stronger and better than ours. I thought the same when Wigan came. I wouldn’t say it’s true of all the teams above us. Some have managed to find methods of winning games with inferior players by making the team so much more than the sum of it’s parts, being well drilled, having a great team spirit etc. I would say Burton are the prime example of that.


But yeah, how poor our players are is very sad and I said before the game, whatever team he puts out, I don’t fancy us against Millwall.

I'd agree with all of that.

Before the game I thought we were big and strong and had a chance, after about 5 minutes I thought they were big, strong *and* fast and I couldn't see us getting anything.

It might've been different if they hadn't gone 1-0 up, but after that point without any creativity we were done for.

Burton are interesting bc I imagine if that team broke up then individually they might all(?) end up lower down the Leagues - but collectively they're clearly thriving.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I'd agree with all of that.

Before the game I thought we were big and strong and had a chance, after about 5 minutes I thought they were big, strong *and* fast and I couldn't see us getting anything.

It might've been different if they hadn't gone 1-0 up, but after that point without any creativity we were done for.

Burton are interesting bc I imagine if that team broke up then individually they might all(?) end up lower down the Leagues - but collectively they're clearly thriving.

Yeah that was my thinking. Wigan and Millwall are the only teams I've seen at the lane this season that I thought genuinely had too much for us. Stronger, fitter, faster, better players. Burton are a great unit who play for each other but don't have a great deal of individual quality. I'll be interested to see what Wallsall and Gillingham look like when they come to the lane. I suspect Gillingham might fall into the same bracket as Millwall and Wigan.